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Waltercito · 01-13-2026, 09:10 PM

Could very well have been a misprint, BUT I really do think that most of these oldtimers records as he have them today, are at a 25% at maximum. We have a lot yet to discover.

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-13-2026, 10:36 PM

Have looked through to Parker's first fight with Babe Beatty(Beattie). Some interesting reading unveiling the make up of Parker. A cocky self assured fighter who maybe thinks more of his ability than what he's shown thus far. See his comments on Mar 06 Caledonian-Record and not he expresses he's fought 410 times up to that time!

Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through!

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-13-2026, 10:38 PM

I enjoy seeing these in the old papers....

Cap · 01-14-2026, 09:25 AM

Interesting. Why does Parker seem to be an unknown quantity to local fight fans if he's had over 400 fights? Was he fighting elsewhere previously and under a different name? Also, it seems Beattie was "Beatty" in the States and "Beattie" in Canada. He definitely spelled his last name with "ie" at the end as he signed his name that way in an open letter to a Sherbrooke newspaper.

Cap

Waltercito · 01-14-2026, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocco Del Sesto

I enjoy seeing these in the old papers....

None of these fights except for Parker - Beattie are in Boxrec, just checked.

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-14-2026, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Waltercito

None of these fights except for Parker - Beattie are in Boxrec, just checked.

Would be interesting to have these guys in TB to then replay the fight cards. Thinking about that as I've run across quite a few of these in these old newspapers. I only thought have down to Welterweights in my DB though so a lot fewer guys in the weights under Middle to be able to play test against.

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-14-2026, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cap

Interesting. Why does Parker seem to be an unknown quantity to local fight fans if he's had over 400 fights? Was he fighting elsewhere previously and under a different name? Also, it seems Beattie was "Beatty" in the States and "Beattie" in Canada. He definitely spelled his last name with "ie" at the end as he signed his name that way in an open letter to a Sherbrooke newspaper.

Cap

You could be right Cap that the American papers picked up spelling his name with a y instead of Ie. How spelling could vary between Canada and USA, especially maybe French-Canadian?

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-14-2026, 02:23 PM

Here were the Fight Card schedules I found. Finding these help to identify fighters weights that a lot of times not getting noted in the fight review or even preview articles.

Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through!

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-14-2026, 02:40 PM

So, ran across an article in the Sat, Jun 06, 1936 The Caledonian-Record that is discussing Hub Parker's decision that he wants to manage himself and he wants to change his name to Kid Parker, the name that he says he used before coming to Newport and began going by Hub Parker! The article mentions that Parker boasts of a career of more than 400 public fights and has never been KO'd. So how much of the 400+ fights is made up by Parker?

So then I searched BoxRec for Kid Parker. There's a bunch of them but one right near the top of the list stood out. Kid Parker 1933-1933, Residence Burlington, Vermont. So I opened this Kid Parker up and he has one fight listed against a Walt Neal on April 5, 1933 says in barre Arena, Barre. I looked up Neal, saw a quick referenced to this fight but think it said in Burlington? So I did some searching of Kid Parker in 1933 newspapers and am finding a good number of articles on fights by a Kid Parker from Rochester! Remeber the Feb 7, 1936 Express and Standard, Newport article that introduces us to Parker starting against Bill Stewart and that article mentioned Parker's home town was Rochester, NY where he fought before moving to Newport.

So could very well be a wealth of fights for Parker pre 1936 under the "Kid" Parker moniker.

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-15-2026, 05:25 PM

Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through!

Waltercito · 01-15-2026, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocco Del Sesto

Now we'll see if the break between June 1936 and the next listed fight for Parker in December 1938 has something to do with his decision to going back to be called Kid Parker which he went by in his pre-Newport days.

I'm pretty sure of that. I'm not sure about the Burlington one, but I really think that the one from Rochester is our Hub.

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-15-2026, 08:37 PM

Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through!

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-15-2026, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Waltercito

I'm pretty sure of that. I'm not sure about the Burlington one, but I really think that the one from Rochester is our Hub.

Convinced yes working backward from 1936 will find "Kid" Parker's earlier career....
Rocco

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-16-2026, 02:51 PM

Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through!

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-16-2026, 03:15 PM

Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through!

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-16-2026, 07:14 PM

Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through!

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-16-2026, 09:10 PM

Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through!

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-16-2026, 09:28 PM

Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through!

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-17-2026, 08:41 PM

Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through!

Rocco Del Sesto · 01-20-2026, 04:54 PM

Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through!

01-13-2026, 10:36 PM	#82
Rocco Del Sesto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Watkinsville, Georgia Posts: 2,184	Hub Parker "career" unfolding... Have looked through to Parker's first fight with Babe Beatty(Beattie). Some interesting reading unveiling the make up of Parker. A cocky self assured fighter who maybe thinks more of his ability than what he's shown thus far. See his comments on Mar 06 Caledonian-Record and not he expresses he's fought 410 times up to that time! Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through! Last edited by Rocco Del Sesto; 03-09-2026 at 10:34 AM.

01-13-2026, 10:38 PM	#83
Rocco Del Sesto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Watkinsville, Georgia Posts: 2,184	Hub Parker v Babe Beatty first fight Card I enjoy seeing these in the old papers.... Attached Images

01-14-2026, 09:25 AM	#84
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 8,012	Interesting. Why does Parker seem to be an unknown quantity to local fight fans if he's had over 400 fights? Was he fighting elsewhere previously and under a different name? Also, it seems Beattie was "Beatty" in the States and "Beattie" in Canada. He definitely spelled his last name with "ie" at the end as he signed his name that way in an open letter to a Sherbrooke newspaper. Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

01-14-2026, 02:23 PM	#88
Rocco Del Sesto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Watkinsville, Georgia Posts: 2,184	Hub Parker vs Ray Tejar and then Larry Mercier Here were the Fight Card schedules I found. Finding these help to identify fighters weights that a lot of times not getting noted in the fight review or even preview articles. Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through! Attached Images Last edited by Rocco Del Sesto; 03-09-2026 at 12:55 PM.

01-14-2026, 02:40 PM	#89
Rocco Del Sesto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Watkinsville, Georgia Posts: 2,184	Hub Parker Some pre 1936 career info So, ran across an article in the Sat, Jun 06, 1936 The Caledonian-Record that is discussing Hub Parker's decision that he wants to manage himself and he wants to change his name to Kid Parker, the name that he says he used before coming to Newport and began going by Hub Parker! The article mentions that Parker boasts of a career of more than 400 public fights and has never been KO'd. So how much of the 400+ fights is made up by Parker? So then I searched BoxRec for Kid Parker. There's a bunch of them but one right near the top of the list stood out. Kid Parker 1933-1933, Residence Burlington, Vermont. So I opened this Kid Parker up and he has one fight listed against a Walt Neal on April 5, 1933 says in barre Arena, Barre. I looked up Neal, saw a quick referenced to this fight but think it said in Burlington? So I did some searching of Kid Parker in 1933 newspapers and am finding a good number of articles on fights by a Kid Parker from Rochester! Remeber the Feb 7, 1936 Express and Standard, Newport article that introduces us to Parker starting against Bill Stewart and that article mentioned Parker's home town was Rochester, NY where he fought before moving to Newport. So could very well be a wealth of fights for Parker pre 1936 under the "Kid" Parker moniker.

01-13-2026, 09:10 PM	#81
Waltercito All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Anröchte, Germany Posts: 1,031	Could very well have been a misprint, BUT I really do think that most of these oldtimers records as he have them today, are at a 25% at maximum. We have a lot yet to discover.

01-15-2026, 05:25 PM	#90
Rocco Del Sesto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Watkinsville, Georgia Posts: 2,184	Hub Parker 2nd and 3rd Beatty bouts plus and extra found... Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through! Last edited by Rocco Del Sesto; 03-09-2026 at 10:35 AM.

01-15-2026, 08:37 PM	#92
Rocco Del Sesto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Watkinsville, Georgia Posts: 2,184	Filling in the blanks on Hub/Kid Parker Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through! Last edited by Rocco Del Sesto; 03-09-2026 at 10:35 AM.

01-16-2026, 02:51 PM	#94
Rocco Del Sesto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Watkinsville, Georgia Posts: 2,184	Kid Parker finishing up October 1936 Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through! Last edited by Rocco Del Sesto; 03-09-2026 at 10:36 AM.

01-16-2026, 03:15 PM	#95
Rocco Del Sesto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Watkinsville, Georgia Posts: 2,184	Kid Parker thru November 1936 Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through! Last edited by Rocco Del Sesto; 03-09-2026 at 10:36 AM.

01-16-2026, 07:14 PM	#96
Rocco Del Sesto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Watkinsville, Georgia Posts: 2,184	Kid Parker finishes up 1936 with one fight in December Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through! Last edited by Rocco Del Sesto; 03-09-2026 at 10:36 AM.

01-16-2026, 09:10 PM	#97
Rocco Del Sesto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Watkinsville, Georgia Posts: 2,184	Kid / Hub Parker Feb 1937 Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through! Attached Images Last edited by Rocco Del Sesto; 03-09-2026 at 10:37 AM.

01-16-2026, 09:28 PM	#98
Rocco Del Sesto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Watkinsville, Georgia Posts: 2,184	Kid Parker No fights rest of 1937 Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through! Last edited by Rocco Del Sesto; 03-09-2026 at 10:37 AM.

01-17-2026, 08:41 PM	#99
Rocco Del Sesto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Watkinsville, Georgia Posts: 2,184	Hub Parker back in action in Feb 1938 Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through! Last edited by Rocco Del Sesto; 03-09-2026 at 10:37 AM.

01-20-2026, 04:54 PM	#100
Rocco Del Sesto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Watkinsville, Georgia Posts: 2,184	Hub Parker action into March 1938 Stream lining these posts removing all the bio info I end up putting in the fighters file. shorten the length of his thread that I felt was getting TO LONG for anyone to delve through! Last edited by Rocco Del Sesto; 03-09-2026 at 10:38 AM.