Historical Crashes

lawrence97 · 10-24-2025, 06:03 PM

Don't know whats going on, but i've been trying to simulate a few historical seasons, and i'm barley getting past 3/4 seasons without it crashing. I've done a variety historical edits, but nothing i've not done in previous variations of the game. Anyone else having these issues? When i have more time i'll run a few scenarios to see whats causing the crashes.

JeffR · 10-25-2025, 07:56 AM

I've run a bunch of test saves through the full 1909-2024 history with no problem. Could you upload one of the saves that's crashing so we can have a look and see what's happening?

lawrence97 · 10-25-2025, 07:56 AM

Yep get crashes even with leaving everything alone, and comes up with invalid playoff format as well in 1974 with no changes

lawrence97 · 10-25-2025, 07:57 AM

yep i'll post both i'll call one LDCHANGES and the other LDVANILLA. Thanks Jeff

Edit: both posted

lawrence97 · 10-27-2025, 09:27 AM

Tried manually updating the conference and divisions, but still crashes FYI

JeffR · 10-27-2025, 02:09 PM

With LDVANILLA, add 2 new divisions in the league structure editor and move 4-5 teams to each of them, then regenerate the schedule - that's the format the 1974 NHL playoff system needs. With historical editing turned on, the divisional structure won't update automatically.

But the LDCHANGES crash is something else entirely. It doesn't seem to be a lineup or game data issue, I can simulate all the games on October 4 without a crash. But it crashes as soon as I move off that date. We'll have a look at what's causing that, and I'll see if we can fix the save if it's not something that can be corrected with a game update.

lawrence97 · 10-27-2025, 06:31 PM

don't worry about the save its just a test one for me

JeffR · 10-29-2025, 12:57 AM

Found the problem in LDCHANGES: league deactivation was off but team deactivation was on, so the WHL kept going but lost almost all of its teams.

lawrence97 · 10-29-2025, 04:04 AM

Ta thought i started that save before the WHA came into existence. Essentially i want to create a world with no WHA and where you can draft Gretzky. I'll run another test starting 1969, without activation making sure i simulate schedule(i think this is what i forgot to do once) after making sure divisions/conferences are right, and that way i shouldn't get any crashes. Cheers for all your help as always.

lawrence97 · 10-29-2025, 05:10 AM

no still crashes, so presume i have to turn of team activation/deactivation, which will muck up the nhl, i've done this before in previous versions, not sure what i'm doing wrong this time

EDIT: Tried to do it that way turning off both team and league, which worked well(even though its a pain updating it every year) until 1979 when i ran into an AHL schedule/team problem- (it comes up with an error like invalid schedule missing team). I haven't touched them, and you can't edit that league in historical so cant get past, and it crashes if you go to the ahl schedule

EDIT 2: Found a way to work around it ish... Keep the teams and league changes on but to stop WHA getting the best players, is to change nhl and affiliates to draft at 18 , In future games would be able to select which rules you editing for which league so it doesn't affect them all universally

10-24-2025, 06:03 PM	#1
lawrence97 All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England Posts: 552	Historical Crashes Don't know whats going on, but i've been trying to simulate a few historical seasons, and i'm barley getting past 3/4 seasons without it crashing. I've done a variety historical edits, but nothing i've not done in previous variations of the game. Anyone else having these issues? When i have more time i'll run a few scenarios to see whats causing the crashes.

10-25-2025, 07:57 AM	#4
lawrence97 All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England Posts: 552	yep i'll post both i'll call one LDCHANGES and the other LDVANILLA. Thanks Jeff Edit: both posted Last edited by lawrence97; 10-25-2025 at 08:08 AM.

10-29-2025, 04:04 AM	#9
lawrence97 All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England Posts: 552	Ta thought i started that save before the WHA came into existence. Essentially i want to create a world with no WHA and where you can draft Gretzky. I'll run another test starting 1969, without activation making sure i simulate schedule(i think this is what i forgot to do once) after making sure divisions/conferences are right, and that way i shouldn't get any crashes. Cheers for all your help as always. Last edited by lawrence97; 10-29-2025 at 04:09 AM.

10-29-2025, 05:10 AM	#10
lawrence97 All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England Posts: 552	no still crashes, so presume i have to turn of team activation/deactivation, which will muck up the nhl, i've done this before in previous versions, not sure what i'm doing wrong this time EDIT: Tried to do it that way turning off both team and league, which worked well(even though its a pain updating it every year) until 1979 when i ran into an AHL schedule/team problem- (it comes up with an error like invalid schedule missing team). I haven't touched them, and you can't edit that league in historical so cant get past, and it crashes if you go to the ahl schedule EDIT 2: Found a way to work around it ish... Keep the teams and league changes on but to stop WHA getting the best players, is to change nhl and affiliates to draft at 18 , In future games would be able to select which rules you editing for which league so it doesn't affect them all universally Last edited by lawrence97; 10-29-2025 at 06:43 PM.

10-25-2025, 07:56 AM	#2
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,434	I've run a bunch of test saves through the full 1909-2024 history with no problem. Could you upload one of the saves that's crashing so we can have a look and see what's happening?

10-27-2025, 09:27 AM	#5
lawrence97 All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England Posts: 552	Tried manually updating the conference and divisions, but still crashes FYI

10-27-2025, 02:09 PM	#6
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,434	With LDVANILLA, add 2 new divisions in the league structure editor and move 4-5 teams to each of them, then regenerate the schedule - that's the format the 1974 NHL playoff system needs. With historical editing turned on, the divisional structure won't update automatically. But the LDCHANGES crash is something else entirely. It doesn't seem to be a lineup or game data issue, I can simulate all the games on October 4 without a crash. But it crashes as soon as I move off that date. We'll have a look at what's causing that, and I'll see if we can fix the save if it's not something that can be corrected with a game update.

10-27-2025, 06:31 PM	#7
lawrence97 All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England Posts: 552	don't worry about the save its just a test one for me

10-29-2025, 12:57 AM	#8
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,434	Found the problem in LDCHANGES: league deactivation was off but team deactivation was on, so the WHL kept going but lost almost all of its teams.