Trades & AI (This is on the hotfix version)

[VVS]

Patrick Brown for 1st 16gp 1 pt
Ducks sign Jujhar Khaira signed 2.27m for 2 years he should never have gotten an nhl offer let alone over 2m.

Zach Astron-Reese For a 2nd

Josh Anderson For cole silingerr (my bad was not josh Anderson for josh Anderson that was a brain moment)

Alex ovechkin resigned for 4.5m

the fix of just reducing how many trades happen does not fix how broken trades are when they do happen.

My sim date is NOV 30, 2025

[Afroduck]

I don't like being super negative but this really does just feel like 11.


Same bad AI trades I still can't believe we still have the Well Balanced trade means you add more.


The if you want a top player you have to give up something significant which majority of time is unreachable seriously why can't I build a decent package the Major Star for Major Star doesn't happen that often in real life , but hell I would even take that let me trade a 4 star for a 4 star most of the time you have to add way more.


AI can still make trades that you never could still seeing 35 year old one star guys going for 2 star plus prospects I wish.


I just play Historical

[VVS]

Originally Posted by Afroduck

I don't like being super negative but this really does just feel like 11.


Same bad AI trades I still can't believe we still have the Well Balanced trade means you add more.


The if you want a top player you have to give up something significant which majority of time is unreachable seriously why can't I build a decent package the Major Star for Major Star doesn't happen that often in real life , but hell I would even take that let me trade a 4 star for a 4 star most of the time you have to add way more.


AI can still make trades that you never could still seeing 35 year old one star guys going for 2 star plus prospects I wish.


I just play Historical

sadly, gonna have to agree the AI on FHM makes the EA franchise mode ai look like geniuses and thats really saying something

[Savoie45]

Originally Posted by VVS

sadly, gonna have to agree the AI on FHM makes the EA franchise mode ai look like geniuses and thats really saying something

No, the AI in EA can't even manage to sign players even with spots and cap space available. I'll say that with the state of high dollar, long term contracts in the NHL only getting worse, I don't expect the AI in FHM to handle it well. It recognizes these players as Cap dumps do not star players that we as humans see them as. I wouldn't want to be a developer trying to find in balance in it all either.

[JeffR]

The value of draft picks does seem a little too high at the moment, I think that's partly due to an excess of good players in the 2026 draft (which inflates the pick value because teams look at the talent available when evaluating a pick.) I'm working on fixing that, and we may have to make some other adjustments as well.

[Teloch]

Originally Posted by VVS

sadly, gonna have to agree the AI on FHM makes the EA franchise mode ai look like geniuses and thats really saying something

You telling me the Jeremy Swayman for Mason Appleton trade I just had to start my first FHM12 season is not realistic?

[VVS]

Originally Posted by teloch

you telling me the jeremy swayman for mason appleton trade i just had to start my first fhm12 season is not realistic? :d

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[VVS]

Originally Posted by Savoie45

No, the AI in EA can't even manage to sign players even with spots and cap space available. I'll say that with the state of high dollar, long term contracts in the NHL only getting worse, I don't expect the AI in FHM to handle it well. It recognizes these players as Cap dumps do not star players that we as humans see them as. I wouldn't want to be a developer trying to find in balance in it all either.

The trades & contract value is 500% better in Ea series none of these trades you would be able to do in ea lol. macklin celebbrini for kent johnson good cap dump? patrick brown gets paid 700k and could be on an ahl contract i highly doubt it views any of these guys as cap dumps

[VVS]

Originally Posted by Savoie45

No, the AI in EA can't even manage to sign players even with spots and cap space available. I'll say that with the state of high dollar, long term contracts in the NHL only getting worse, I don't expect the AI in FHM to handle it well. It recognizes these players as Cap dumps do not star players that we as humans see them as. I wouldn't want to be a developer trying to find in balance in it all either.

id rather have the a few open spots on a roster then 1st getting traded for a 4th line grinder and ahl depth getting singed for multi million dollar deals in the same year the franchise started

[toddr037]

The ai trade iq I think needs to be better. In my game, 1st year Tampa in the midst of a playoff race (they were 2nd in division), traded both Vasilevski and Hedman for picks and younger players. Tampa then proceeds to acquire Stu Skinner from Edm (who again was in a tight playoff race). [Side note of these chain of events, that year with Skinner in net, Tampa got swept by Florida in the first round. Poor Skinner is cursed vs the Panthers. lol]


And then at the deadline also in year 1 Colorado (1st in division) made a blockbuster with Boston (out of playoff race). 1 for 1 MAKAR for Pasta.


Thats a trade that IMO will never happen irl. both have term left on contract and both are franchise players that will probably never leave their respective teams

[Savoie45]

Originally Posted by toddr037

The ai trade iq I think needs to be better. In my game, 1st year Tampa in the midst of a playoff race (they were 2nd in division), traded both Vasilevski and Hedman for picks and younger players. Tampa then proceeds to acquire Stu Skinner from Edm (who again was in a tight playoff race). [Side note of these chain of events, that year with Skinner in net, Tampa got swept by Florida in the first round. Poor Skinner is cursed vs the Panthers. lol]


And then at the deadline also in year 1 Colorado (1st in division) made a blockbuster with Boston (out of playoff race). 1 for 1 MAKAR for Pasta.


Thats a trade that IMO will never happen irl. both have term left on contract and both are franchise players that will probably never leave their respective teams

Saying a trade like that would never happen is kinda silly considering last year Rantanen, Necas, and Marchand were all traded. Then Dobson and K'Andre Miller were traded in the offseason.

[Ahmat]

Makar-Pasta trade could be probable if Makar is not interested in signing new contract (like Rantanen case).
Marchard and Dobson were more like rebuild moves (Boston ja NYI got mainly draft picks). As long as both Makar and Mackinnon are in prime, Colorado would not start any kind of rebuild.

One problem with these AI trades is that they take huge risks. Trade Makar for forward leaves huge gap in the defence.

Trade Vasilevsky for defender or forward is awful squad building either if team outlook is win now.

[tomkmb]

Originally Posted by Ahmat

Makar-Pasta trade could be probable if Makar is not interested in signing new contract (like Rantanen case).
Marchard and Dobson were more like rebuild moves (Boston ja NYI got mainly draft picks). As long as both Makar and Mackinnon are in prime, Colorado would not start any kind of rebuild.

One problem with these AI trades is that they take huge risks. Trade Makar for forward leaves huge gap in the defence.

Trade Vasilevsky for defender or forward is awful squad building either if team outlook is win now.

Yeah that has been a problem for FHM12 so far, teams seem unable to realise that they will potentially leave themselves with a huge hole at a position group by making some of these blockbuster trades. Hopefully they can get that under better control over the next couple of patches.

[curt]

Why can't trades be turned off completely?????

[VVS]

Originally Posted by Savoie45

Saying a trade like that would never happen is kinda silly considering last year Rantanen, Necas, and Marchand were all traded. Then Dobson and K'Andre Miller were traded in the offseason.

these are terrible trades that would never take place lol you are the only one defending the cpu to cpu trades

[Savoie45]

Originally Posted by curt

Why can't trades be turned off completely?????

They can. In commissioner mode, bring down the NHL drop down and click edit. Change trade frequency from 30 to 0.

[Savoie45]

Originally Posted by VVS

these are terrible trades that would never take place lol you are the only one defending the cpu to cpu trades

I'm not defending them, but I'm not under the impression that star players are never traded in reality either. I also don't find the AI trades horribly offensive overall and understand it's a video game where AI is rarely going to live up to human expectations. Of course I grew up in an era of games like Super Tecmo Bowl, Baseball Simulator 1,000 which were anything but realistic. They were fun though and that's how I approach sports games now, for fun.

[sarona]

Originally Posted by Savoie45

They can. In commissioner mode, bring down the NHL drop down and click edit. Change trade frequency from 30 to 0.

You can turn trades off on July 1.

[sarona]

Originally Posted by Savoie45

I'm not defending them, but I'm not under the impression that star players are never traded in reality either. I also don't find the AI trades horribly offensive overall and understand it's a video where AI is rarely going to live up to human expectations. Of course I grew up in an era of games like Super Tecmo Bowl, Baseball Simulator 1,000 which were anything but realistic. They were fun though and that's how I approach sports games now, for fun.

Bad AI trades are why I was hoping the developers would add a "League Office" feature in which you, as Commissioner, would be able to nullify dubious transactions before they became official. Make the feature optional - with the default setting at off. This would save people time by not having to constantly edit player rights back to their original clubs.


It is really annoying to see one-sided AI trades strengthening the clubs you are battling for a playoff spot with.

[toddr037]

Originally Posted by sarona

Bad AI trades are why I was hoping the developers would add a "League Office" feature in which you, as Commissioner, would be able to nullify dubious transactions before they became official. Make the feature optional - with the default setting at off. This would save people time by not having to constantly edit player rights back to their original clubs.


It is really annoying to see one-sided AI trades strengthening the clubs you are battling for a playoff spot with.

I would definitely use something like this. Have a popup or an email come up saying "Colorado would like to trade Cale Makar and a 1st rnd to Edmonton for connor mcdavid. Do you want to accept?"


I think its NBA 2k games that have a similar option in their franchise mode.