156 wins 6 lost I DONT BELIEVE IT

bosunmate · 08-30-2025, 11:45 PM

How does someone play 24 seasons in the iron league then jump to 156 wins 6 lost and end up in high gold. Something seems fishy to me. Went from 666 runs to 1507 and only 388 runs against. A 963 percentage win record I just don't believe its possible please somebody explain.

LeeD · 08-31-2025, 12:21 AM

Could be shenanigans, but it's probably just someone who had the team in ignore mode, collected points and packs, and recently decided that it's time to cash in and build the team up. The benefits of extra licenses and extra teams.

bosunmate · 08-31-2025, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LeeD

Could be shenanigans, but it's probably just someone who had the team in ignore mode, collected points and packs, and recently decided that it's time to cash in and build the team up. The benefits of extra licenses and extra teams.

I'm 75 so I'm still learning I only have played perfect for 4 years now and didn't understand auctions until my grand daughter explained it to me I use to sell my variant for the asking price, Then this year I got a Josh Gibson 102 variant card and ended up with over 2 million points and I pulled that card out of a spotlight pack.

LeeD · 08-31-2025, 04:47 AM

Congratulations are in order. Another possibility is that the team owner pulled a super card like that and sold it to fund a spending spree. I hit on a variant last year that I sold for two million, and that got me into Perfect League. It happens.

bosunmate · 08-31-2025, 10:49 AM

Thanks

Hawkwing7423 · 08-31-2025, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bosunmate

How does someone play 24 seasons in the iron league then jump to 156 wins 6 lost and end up in high gold. Something seems fishy to me. Went from 666 runs to 1507 and only 388 runs against. A 963 percentage win record I just don't believe its possible please somebody explain.

I had a team in mostly ignore mode, totally free to play and I bought some cards that hard performed well on my main team, and eventually I put them all in play. That year, I went 141-20 and got promoted to Low Gold.

This team has been terrible since

daves · 09-01-2025, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkwing7423

I got promoted to Low Gold.

This team has been terrible since

Promoted to the level of mediocrity!

Hawkwing7423 · 09-01-2025, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by daves

Promoted to the level of mediocrity!

They were indeed Peter Principled.

It's a lot of work to get one epic season without a large wallet.

They went all the way to Low Gold (team was absolutely not that quality) and went 70-92 and then had a dismal High Silver season 74-88.

The new season's not looking any better. Not even a .500 club even once since.

LeeD · 09-01-2025, 11:30 PM

While super promotions might seem like an attempt to match team quality to league level, I believe it's a way to short-circuit speed runs. No more pounding the competition through Rookie, Stone, Iron, and Bronze to the tune of a cash register ringing up 65,000 or so achievement points per season (more if you get extras like Triple Crown, Cy Young, etc.).

Think about what's been removed here. A quarter of a million PP on your way up the ladder has been replaced with an express elevator to the basement. This kills any reasonable chance of playing catch-up with new teams, which in turn kills any chance of stimulating interest among new players who join mid-cycle...unless, of course, you're pay-to-win. Mission accomplished?

bailey · 09-02-2025, 08:30 AM

A quarter million is only half of one player and you need 26 players.

I think the devs were embarrassed by the plethora of 162-0 seasons last year. One guy even went 162-0 in rookie, stone AND iron.

LeeD · 09-02-2025, 08:54 PM

250,000 PP is what you need to complete Launch Plus from a "cold start" where you don't have a lot of the cards already. It can also be accomplished with about 150,000 if pack luck is good. Done right, this gives you a competitive Low Gold team, at least for the moment, when the alternative is being super promoted to Low or High Gold with little more than the Live Series rewards in hand.

At the end of that rainbow are the five super packs, plus Variant Honus. Sure, you could pull a bunch more launch Perfects, which wouldn't be terrible since they're still selling for 40-60,000 apiece. You could also pull something like this:

bailey · 09-03-2025, 09:28 AM

I'm really skeptical about the Launch Plus missions. You'd need to acquire 237 silvers, 132 golds, 64 diamonds, and 10 perfects to get variant Honus.
Is it worth it? Besides the cost, it seems like a lot of work to chase all those cards for 6 lottery tickets.

cwhitman · 09-03-2025, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bailey

I'm really skeptical about the Launch Plus missions. You'd need to acquire 237 silvers, 132 golds, 64 diamonds, and 10 perfects to get variant Honus.
Is it worth it? Besides the cost, it seems like a lot of work to chase all those cards for 6 lottery tickets.

it was worth it for the people who already had all those cards when the missions came out, less so now.

LeeD · 09-03-2025, 11:25 AM

Finish the other side of the equation, the benefit analysis. As part of the Launch Plus mission set, you earn 35 Standard packs, 27 Historical Silvers, 25 Historical Golds, 19 Historical Diamonds, 3 Historical Perfects, and 3 Historical Rainbows.

You complete Negro Leagues, which mirror Launch Plus (very high duplication value, i.e., you're completing multiple missions by acquiring the same cards). Negro Leagues get you 4 Standards, 5 Historical Silvers, 11 Historical Golds, 24 (!) Historical Diamonds, and a Perfect Pack, plus you get Satchel Paige and a handful of lesser mortals. You'll also complete or nearly complete a horde of Pack Rewards missions, earning over 50 Standard packs in the process. There's also a lot of duplication with the Launch Help missions in the Immortals set and a fair amount of duplication in Bonus rewards.

Total haul is around 100 Standard packs, 32 Historical Silver, 36 Historical Gold, 43 Historical Diamond, a Perfect Pack, 3 Historical Perfects, and 3 Historical Rainbows. With any kind of pack luck at all, you'll end up with about the same amount you started with, and you've acquired a solid if unspectacular team in the process.

Those Historical Perfect and Rainbow Packs are also lottery tickets with a high floor. Worst case is you pull a bunch of duplicate launch-day historicals and sell them for a profit of about 200,000 PP after taxes.

usa_hank · 09-03-2025, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeD

250,000 PP is what you need to complete Launch Plus from a "cold start" where you don't have a lot of the cards already. It can also be accomplished with about 150,000 if pack luck is good. Done right, this gives you a competitive Low Gold team, at least for the moment, when the alternative is being super promoted to Low or High Gold with little more than the Live Series rewards in hand.

At the end of that rainbow are the five super packs, plus Variant Honus. Sure, you could pull a bunch more launch Perfects, which wouldn't be terrible since they're still selling for 40-60,000 apiece. You could also pull something like this:

What is it about that Tubby Scales variant that seems to make it so prevalent? I pulled one as well a couple months ago, and I've seen like 4 other teams with him.

Then again, perhaps it's just that he's still somewhat relavent as a platoon player on a team, so I see him on active rosters.

LeeD · 09-03-2025, 08:35 PM

Yes, he plays everything but catcher, and all pretty well at that. He had a 3-homer, 9-RBI game for me today. 1000 achievement points.

08-30-2025, 11:45 PM	#1
bosunmate All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,711	156 wins 6 lost I DONT BELIEVE IT How does someone play 24 seasons in the iron league then jump to 156 wins 6 lost and end up in high gold. Something seems fishy to me. Went from 666 runs to 1507 and only 388 runs against. A 963 percentage win record I just don't believe its possible please somebody explain.

09-02-2025, 08:54 PM	#11
LeeD All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 754	250,000 PP is what you need to complete Launch Plus from a "cold start" where you don't have a lot of the cards already. It can also be accomplished with about 150,000 if pack luck is good. Done right, this gives you a competitive Low Gold team, at least for the moment, when the alternative is being super promoted to Low or High Gold with little more than the Live Series rewards in hand. At the end of that rainbow are the five super packs, plus Variant Honus. Sure, you could pull a bunch more launch Perfects, which wouldn't be terrible since they're still selling for 40-60,000 apiece. You could also pull something like this: Attached Images

08-31-2025, 12:21 AM	#2
LeeD All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 754	Could be shenanigans, but it's probably just someone who had the team in ignore mode, collected points and packs, and recently decided that it's time to cash in and build the team up. The benefits of extra licenses and extra teams.

08-31-2025, 04:47 AM	#4
LeeD All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 754	Congratulations are in order. Another possibility is that the team owner pulled a super card like that and sold it to fund a spending spree. I hit on a variant last year that I sold for two million, and that got me into Perfect League. It happens.

08-31-2025, 10:49 AM	#5
bosunmate All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,711	Thanks

09-01-2025, 11:30 PM	#9
LeeD All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 754	While super promotions might seem like an attempt to match team quality to league level, I believe it's a way to short-circuit speed runs. No more pounding the competition through Rookie, Stone, Iron, and Bronze to the tune of a cash register ringing up 65,000 or so achievement points per season (more if you get extras like Triple Crown, Cy Young, etc.). Think about what's been removed here. A quarter of a million PP on your way up the ladder has been replaced with an express elevator to the basement. This kills any reasonable chance of playing catch-up with new teams, which in turn kills any chance of stimulating interest among new players who join mid-cycle...unless, of course, you're pay-to-win. Mission accomplished?

09-02-2025, 08:30 AM	#10
bailey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,321	A quarter million is only half of one player and you need 26 players. I think the devs were embarrassed by the plethora of 162-0 seasons last year. One guy even went 162-0 in rookie, stone AND iron.

09-03-2025, 09:28 AM	#12
bailey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,321	I'm really skeptical about the Launch Plus missions. You'd need to acquire 237 silvers, 132 golds, 64 diamonds, and 10 perfects to get variant Honus. Is it worth it? Besides the cost, it seems like a lot of work to chase all those cards for 6 lottery tickets.

09-03-2025, 11:25 AM	#14
LeeD All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 754	Finish the other side of the equation, the benefit analysis. As part of the Launch Plus mission set, you earn 35 Standard packs, 27 Historical Silvers, 25 Historical Golds, 19 Historical Diamonds, 3 Historical Perfects, and 3 Historical Rainbows. You complete Negro Leagues, which mirror Launch Plus (very high duplication value, i.e., you're completing multiple missions by acquiring the same cards). Negro Leagues get you 4 Standards, 5 Historical Silvers, 11 Historical Golds, 24 (!) Historical Diamonds, and a Perfect Pack, plus you get Satchel Paige and a handful of lesser mortals. You'll also complete or nearly complete a horde of Pack Rewards missions, earning over 50 Standard packs in the process. There's also a lot of duplication with the Launch Help missions in the Immortals set and a fair amount of duplication in Bonus rewards. Total haul is around 100 Standard packs, 32 Historical Silver, 36 Historical Gold, 43 Historical Diamond, a Perfect Pack, 3 Historical Perfects, and 3 Historical Rainbows. With any kind of pack luck at all, you'll end up with about the same amount you started with, and you've acquired a solid if unspectacular team in the process. Those Historical Perfect and Rainbow Packs are also lottery tickets with a high floor. Worst case is you pull a bunch of duplicate launch-day historicals and sell them for a profit of about 200,000 PP after taxes.

09-03-2025, 08:35 PM	#16
LeeD All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 754	Yes, he plays everything but catcher, and all pretty well at that. He had a 3-homer, 9-RBI game for me today. 1000 achievement points.