Interaction Of Settings With Auto-Calc

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by OutS|der

How is this 6 pages? What are you still arguing about? It's been explained to you multiple times yet you keep it up.

Matt has explained it to you, yet you still argue and claim something cause I can't understand your ramblings


You need to seek help. Quit the troll job or wtf ever this is. Go talk to a professional, this is getting obsessive.

As I have posted before, some people believe the opinions, some believe the data, and some believe neither and will test it themselves. If you're not interested in the thread don't click on it. The thread has gotten over 1000 views in the last 30 hours. Even if you're not interested, others are.

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by Brad K

As I have posted before, some people believe the opinions, some believe the data, and some believe neither and will test it themselves. If you're not interested in the thread don't click on it. The thread has gotten over 1000 views in the last 30 hours. Even if you're not interested, others are.

LOL, no one cares about the view count except you. Most of the replies are from you, and clicks don’t mean the post is good or that people agree. It just means they were intrigued by the high number of replies.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

LOL, no one cares about the view count except you. Most of the replies are from you, and clicks don’t mean the post is good or that people agree. It just means they were intrigued by the high number of replies.

Thank you for your interest. Whatever the reason!

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by Brad K

Thank you for your interest. Whatever the reason!

Sure, Brad. People clicking into a thread out of curiosity isn’t the win you think it is. If view count is the best defense you’ve got for the content, that says everything. Engagement isn’t the same as agreement, and noise doesn’t equal value.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

Sure, Brad. People clicking into a thread out of curiosity isn’t the win you think it is. If view count is the best defense you’ve got for the content, that says everything. Engagement isn’t the same as agreement, and noise doesn’t equal value.

If you want to discuss the subject, fine. If you want to malign me, as I've told others, I'm out.

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by Brad K

If you want to discuss the subject, fine. If you want to malign me, as I've told others, I'm out.

how exactly did I malign you?

[Scoman]

Lets not confuse views with interest..Im only viewing to see how long this nonsense will go on w/o moderation.

[Brad K]

Does that mean you think I should be moderated? If so, why? I've backed up my statements with data. Nobody has posted contrary data. My statements haven't been disproven. Only denied. I haven't called anybody a liar or a troll. I haven't called anyone mentally ill. Well, OK, perhaps you aren't talking about me.

[Brad K]

Is the inventor of auto-calc present? Or someone who was involved when it was developed? What was the problem auto-calc was intended to solve?

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by Brad K

Is the inventor of auto-calc present? Or someone who was involved when it was developed? What was the problem auto-calc was intended to solve?

World hunger.

[nutt]

another day another troll post

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by nutt

another day another troll post

Would you mind categorizing it?

Troll

1. A gratuitously insulting post.
2. A story which angers some and amuses others.
3. A post which a person doesn't like but can't refute.

PS People with an official association with OOTP should treat the rest of us like your customers. Those who wear the badge have responsibility to it.

[Brad K]

Maybe this is the "problem" auto-calc was devised to solve. Kind of a nuclear solution for a mis-diagnosed problem.

[twins_34]

He not only trolls the forums but also reddit! Except for on there, he likes to personally attack someone as well! Tells me how I should be embarrassed about the Wiki but this dude loves to make up his own definitions of what a troll is and what a personal attack is! This guy is a piece of work!

https://www.reddit.com/r/OOTP/commen...t=share_button

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by twins_34

He not only trolls the forums but also reddit! Except for on there, he likes to personally attack someone as well! Tells me how I should be embarrassed about the Wiki but this dude loves to make up his own definitions of what a troll is and what a personal attack is! This guy is a piece of work!

https://www.reddit.com/r/OOTP/commen...t=share_button

Thanks for the publicity! I was beginning to think all the associates had been instructed to ignore me! Have a pleasant evening.

[nutt]

Originally Posted by Brad K

Would you mind categorizing it?

Troll

1. A gratuitously insulting post.
2. A story which angers some and amuses others.
3. A post which a person doesn't like but can't refute.

PS People with an official association with OOTP should treat the rest of us like your customers. Those who wear the badge have responsibility to it.

Awh, did I strike a nerve? Nobody cares man. People have told you that on Reddit and here. You just keep screaming into the void like a petulant child. Your argument is based on a game from two engines ago to now....do you not understand how moronic that is?

Give it up.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by Garlon

You are saying things like precalc smooths player and league output which is totally inaccurate. The precalc file is just a set of modifiers based upon the default 1yr recalc replay with real lineups and transactions. The file is useful for certain types of games you may want to create.

I said three of five year recalc smooths player and league output when used with pre-calc. I didn't say pre-calc did it. Three year and five year are a moving average. The effect of a moving average is smoothing. Pre-calc lets it happen. Auto-calc prevents it.

Pre-calc is not "Just a set of modifiers". It is very important because it is the actual league output environment for the selected year. And it's useful for more than "certain types of games". It is the only way to let strategy and talent differences show in the output. And a pre-calc file created with 50 or 100 runs is better for a replay league than a auto-calc file created with 3 runs.

Originally Posted by Garlon

The player Evaluation AI Setting weights are how the computer bases its evaluation of players when making lineup decisions, roster decisions, and trades. Why are you trying to confuse that with Scouting Reports?

I am not confusing anything. The ratings from the scouting reports are the ratings the human and computer manager see and use to make decisions. If the rating includes a stats component then the influence of actual rating in the rating shown in diluted. That is, unless the computer manager receives different information than the human manager. Is that a feature that has not yet been revealed?

I could have added that if scouting accuracy is set to 100% then the computer manager evaluation settings should not include any consideration of statistics. It should have 100% in the ratings box.

[David Watts]

I do have a question in regards to pre-calc vs auto-calc. I play random debut for the most part, but when I do play straight historical, I have less than zero interest in using retire according to history. I have less than zero interest in playing with injuries turned off. In fact, I will want to run with at least high modern day from the minute I have rosters large enough to do so. I'm also not a fan of using high fatigue. I want Yogi, Johnny and Mr. Freehan to catch more than 100 games a season. I tend to use moderate for fatigue. What I'm getting at is, my leagues talent makeup is never identical to the real life talent makeup. In terms of random debut play, I hardly ever end up using the actual league structure for my league. For example, my current league is in year 1956 and is moving year by year modifiers wise. League currently features 14 teams all in one subleague.

With all those factors in mind, would I be better off using pre-calc or auto-calc for my leagues? To be honest, I actually forgot that league statistical page showing a leagues output + or - compared to real life even exists, until Brad screenshotted his earlier this year. What are the benefits of pre-calc I might see when playing the above mentioned leagues that I might not see when using auto-calc and vice versa. Thanks.

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by David Watts

I do have a question in regards to pre-calc vs auto-calc. I play random debut for the most part, but when I do play straight historical, I have less than zero interest in using retire according to history. I have less than zero interest in playing with injuries turned off. In fact, I will want to run with at least high modern day from the minute I have rosters large enough to do so. I'm also not a fan of using high fatigue. I want Yogi, Johnny and Mr. Freehan to catch more than 100 games a season. I tend to use moderate for fatigue. What I'm getting at is, my leagues talent makeup is never identical to the real life talent makeup. In terms of random debut play, I hardly ever end up using the actual league structure for my league. For example, my current league is in year 1956 and is moving year by year modifiers wise. League currently features 14 teams all in one subleague.

With all those factors in mind, would I be better off using pre-calc or auto-calc for my leagues? To be honest, I actually forgot that league statistical page showing a leagues output + or - compared to real life even exists, until Brad screenshotted his earlier this year. What are the benefits of pre-calc I might see when playing the above mentioned leagues that I might not see when using auto-calc and vice versa. Thanks.

In a random debut, if you want the league totals to match the historical values precisely, then you probably want autocalc. It will make sure that no matter the random mix of players in your league, you will get the right BA/K/HR totals etc from that year.

If you want things to vary, then you can just use the default totals, and either the default modifiers or the precalc file. Your league will be different, so neither will be bang on, but they may be in the same vicinity.

Using precalc or just neutral modifiers, if your league ends up sewing pitcher heavy or batter heavy, you will see those changes in the output. But you might face an issue of they go far in one direction, the league totals kight look weird.

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

In a random debut, if you want the league totals to match the historical values precisely, then you probably want autocalc. It will make sure that no matter the random mix of players in your league, you will get the right BA/K/HR totals etc from that year.

If you want things to vary, then you can just use the default totals, and either the default modifiers or the precalc file. Your league will be different, so neither will be bang on, but they may be in the same vicinity.

Using precalc or just neutral modifiers, if your league ends up sewing pitcher heavy or batter heavy, you will see those changes in the output. But you might face an issue of they go far in one direction, the league totals kight look weird.

Thank you.