Computer Doesnt know how to develope Players but We do??

Musashi · 03-22-2002, 04:17 PM

I read a comment somewhere that said trades that give the computer alot of minor league players doesnt help the computer because they dont know how to develope players.

I am new to this game but HOW do you develope players besides move them up and down in the minor league and MAYBE TEACH them a new position if you are lacking a position.. any thing else we can do to develope players??

Maybe I am missing something

dwarner · 03-22-2002, 04:21 PM

during spring training you can do alot to improve their power, contact hitting, and defense. for pitchers their velocity stuff and endurance can be developed. That and having good coaches are the best way to develop players

Musashi · 03-22-2002, 04:54 PM

I havent really messed with it too much but every time I have tried to improve one thing on a player he seems to get worse at something else.

I don't really see this happen in RL.

If player A really worked hard at hitting for contact his defense usually doesnt get worse. Or does it?

Steve Kuffrey · 03-22-2002, 04:58 PM

If you have good coaches and minor league staff that helps a player's development.

dwarner · 03-22-2002, 04:59 PM

sometimes it gets worse, and sometimes it doesnt. Either way you cant make someone who is horrible at hitting a .300 hitter without hurting the rest of his game. Its a give and take.

Musashi · 03-22-2002, 06:28 PM

I usually run everyone at 5pts for everything. I figure if I have decent coaches and good prospects that is the best I can hope for.

Killebrew · 03-22-2002, 06:40 PM

Musashi, it isn't that the AI teams cannot develop players as much as it's prospects deteriorating before they have a fair chance of development. This occurs when it's minor league system gets overloaded with players - if you have 2 great 1B in A-ball there is a greater chance for negative development for at least one of them (the one that is not getting any playing time). Push that number up to 3 and it's no longer a question of if but when

. The human player has a strong advantage just by making sure his own minor league systems are not overcrowded.

hellfrozeover · 03-22-2002, 09:12 PM

To teach a new position in the minors, just set the player to play that position in the minor league lineups. Keep in mind though that converting a C to a SS will be much harder than say, CF to LF.

On a side note, one of the guys who was in the Cubs farm system, Jose Nieves, was a SS and a C. I don't know what happened to him, whether he's with someone else or still with the Cubbies.

Musashi · 03-23-2002, 03:20 AM

You have to forgive me I have only been playing OOTP4 for a week and a half and still learning. I did know how to teach a player a new position but didnt really know you had to set the lineups in the Minors for them to really develope better.

Thank you for the info

hellfrozeover · 03-23-2002, 09:51 AM

No prob, glad I could help.

03-22-2002, 04:17 PM	#1
Musashi Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NC Posts: 72	Computer Doesnt know how to develope Players but We do?? I read a comment somewhere that said trades that give the computer alot of minor league players doesnt help the computer because they dont know how to develope players. I am new to this game but HOW do you develope players besides move them up and down in the minor league and MAYBE TEACH them a new position if you are lacking a position.. any thing else we can do to develope players?? Maybe I am missing something

03-22-2002, 04:58 PM	#4
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	If you have good coaches and minor league staff that helps a player's development. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

03-22-2002, 06:40 PM	#7
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	Musashi, it isn't that the AI teams cannot develop players as much as it's prospects deteriorating before they have a fair chance of development. This occurs when it's minor league system gets overloaded with players - if you have 2 great 1B in A-ball there is a greater chance for negative development for at least one of them (the one that is not getting any playing time). Push that number up to 3 and it's no longer a question of if but when . The human player has a strong advantage just by making sure his own minor league systems are not overcrowded. __________________ FOBL Capital City Metropolitans CDL Minnesota Twins

03-22-2002, 09:12 PM	#8
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	To teach a new position in the minors, just set the player to play that position in the minor league lineups. Keep in mind though that converting a C to a SS will be much harder than say, CF to LF. On a side note, one of the guys who was in the Cubs farm system, Jose Nieves, was a SS and a C. I don't know what happened to him, whether he's with someone else or still with the Cubbies. __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs

03-23-2002, 09:51 AM	#10
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	No prob, glad I could help. __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs

03-22-2002, 04:21 PM	#2
dwarner Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 12	during spring training you can do alot to improve their power, contact hitting, and defense. for pitchers their velocity stuff and endurance can be developed. That and having good coaches are the best way to develop players

03-22-2002, 04:54 PM	#3
Musashi Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NC Posts: 72	I havent really messed with it too much but every time I have tried to improve one thing on a player he seems to get worse at something else. I don't really see this happen in RL. If player A really worked hard at hitting for contact his defense usually doesnt get worse. Or does it?

03-22-2002, 04:59 PM	#5
dwarner Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 12	sometimes it gets worse, and sometimes it doesnt. Either way you cant make someone who is horrible at hitting a .300 hitter without hurting the rest of his game. Its a give and take.

03-22-2002, 06:28 PM	#6
Musashi Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NC Posts: 72	I usually run everyone at 5pts for everything. I figure if I have decent coaches and good prospects that is the best I can hope for.

03-23-2002, 03:20 AM	#9
Musashi Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NC Posts: 72	You have to forgive me I have only been playing OOTP4 for a week and a half and still learning. I did know how to teach a player a new position but didnt really know you had to set the lineups in the Minors for them to really develope better. Thank you for the info