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Old 05-28-2025, 07:52 PM   #1
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Major Game Breaking Contract Issues in Online Leagues Again

This was a major issue patched into the game at the end of 25's life cycle. Hopefully, we can finally fix it on 26.

Here is the order of events:

I offer a player 6.9 million
We sim a week
Another team counters with 11 million
We sim a week
I counter with 12.4 million
We sim a week (currently here)
Player says I offered 6.9 million and I need to offer 12.4 million to take the lead

The player is now saying that my last offer of 6.9 million is not enough and he wants the exact amount of money I offered him the previous sim. If I click on any of the + or - buttons, he now says that my team (Houston) is leading the bidding and that I can increase the offer if I want to. But if I back out and go to pending offers, it still says he wants more. And if I open up the contract, he is then back to saying I offered 6.9 million and he wants 12.4.

Of the 50-ish offers I have out there three weeks into the offseason, six of them already have this bug. When this happened on 25, most of these players would not sign any of these bugged contracts and would become increasingly frustrated, cutting off negotiations and insisting we were offering them outdated offers and lowballing them.

Really hope this can be fixed soon, as we hoped when we converted the league from 25 that this game breaking bug would be solved.
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Old 05-28-2025, 08:34 PM   #2
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Another helpful piece of information is the commissioner also sees the same thing as the rest of us do in regards to the wrong contracts. It seems consistently broken in the same way.
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Old 05-28-2025, 09:52 PM   #3
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Online League - same/similar issue. This is for an international free agent.

His in-game email to me says,

"Thanks for the offer. It is fair, and unless someone else offers me a better deal I'll sign with you.

Cheers!"


My Pending Offers page says "Wants more money" and shows an offer to him that I never made. It shows what the player's initial ask was. Being in an online league, I offered over the player's initial ask.

When I go to offer the player a new contract, it says he is looking for the exact amount that I offered him.
It says my previous offer was [the amount the player was originally asking for]

I have only made 1 offer to this player as IAFA just opened in my league 1 sim ago. We simmed a 1-week cycle, and this was the result. There are no AI teams bidding against me, only human GMs in the league with me.


Another GM in my league showed me a screenshot when opening the player's offer page, it says "At present, the best offer is from the Nationals (My team), but I am not sold on them." He then asks for a reasonable raise from what I did indeed offer him.

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Old 05-28-2025, 10:41 PM   #4
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I am experiening a similar issue in my league. I currently lead a bid for a FA starter with a 3 year, 6 million a year offer (image 1 below), but he's asking for a 1 year, 3 million offer (image 2 below) from another member (an offer he just rejected from that same person after receiving my offer).
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Old 05-28-2025, 11:09 PM   #5
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Going to add one more note to what I posted above:

I just realized that in my case, the game was counting the offer against me as if I was indeed leading on the player when calculating my available funds. Yet, will not consider signing with me unless I make the offer again.
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Old 05-29-2025, 03:18 AM   #6
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Also experiencing this debilitating bug.

Submit offer to IAFA at $X in Sim 1.

Sim 2 receive email that another team has submitted higher offer and I need to offer $Y. I make that offer.

Sim 3 receive email saying my offer is favored. Pending offers screen shows original $X as offer. Free Agents screen shows original $X as offer. Clicking Offer Contract shows original $X as offer and tells me I need to offer $Y to be in the lead.

Available money and IAFA money reflects the Sim 2 $Y offer.

Note that I also attempted to withdraw the original $X offer from the Pending Offers page. While the player is no longer willing to negotiate with me after "withdrawing", my finances show no impact from the withdrawal.

This really needs to be fixed. We lost league members over this in 25 and likely going to lose more if it isn't fixed ASAP. Impossible to actually manage your organization under these conditions.
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Old 05-29-2025, 04:42 AM   #7
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Could anyone with these issues please send either a link to download the league file, or upload them to our servers (https://support.ootpdevelopments.com...developments)? Ideally if you can also send the latest exports for teams too, or any date which shows the inconsistencies between teams negotiating.
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Old 05-29-2025, 10:28 AM   #8
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Hey Matt, im not able to ftp the league file at the moment but you should be able to use this link to grab the latest league file - https://statsplus.net/tgs/files/thegrandestsalami.zip
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Old 05-29-2025, 12:34 PM   #9
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Could anyone with these issues please send either a link to download the league file, or upload them to our servers (https://support.ootpdevelopments.com...developments)? Ideally if you can also send the latest exports for teams too, or any date which shows the inconsistencies between teams negotiating.
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Old 05-29-2025, 06:24 PM   #10
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This is two screen shots of the same player on the same day. I've never seen OOTP behave this way before is it also part of these bugs or a new feature?
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Old 05-29-2025, 06:30 PM   #11
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Yeah I'm not sure what's going on but it seems like the contract system is completely broken at this point.
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Old 05-30-2025, 08:41 AM   #12
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Thanks, we will investigate to see what's going on.
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Old 05-30-2025, 09:36 AM   #13
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I have uploaded the league exports for the day that matches the file TGS.lg.7z, the file is called TGS.lg.exports.zip
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Old 05-30-2025, 03:32 PM   #14
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After some investigation it appears our use of waypoints is the issue.

We currently have weekly sim and a waypoint is set on each Friday (in game). If I sim to the waypoint things look ok. However, if I do any form of transaction, for example process a trade then all the problems appear. It does not seem to matter whether I sim day by day or sim to waypoint.

I have test simply dropping the waypoints and things look good. But I am continuing to test and will see how the league sim tonight goes.
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Old 06-01-2025, 05:29 PM   #15
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Still having a lot of issues even after removing the way points. It could be residue from having them on earlier but it doesn't look right to me.

Something interesting to note is contracts in offer history are completely out of order until the game is restarted after downloading a sim.
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Old 06-05-2025, 08:07 PM   #16
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Here is the end result, I believe the offers are either broken, or we have a display issue or both.

The Offer history for the broken players are not in order. I believe the latest date reflects the current status. However, the display always shows the bottom entry, which is wrong.

This seems to happen on players who have Want more $ as the UI status display vs Favors Offer which is the real current state. There are examples of this is the save that we uploaded earlier.
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Old 06-05-2025, 11:21 PM   #17
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We also just had a team sign a RP for 35 million a year for 6 years who did not make said offer to that RP as far as we can tell.

Would love an update on a fix.
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Old 06-06-2025, 06:05 AM   #18
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We can see how to correct some of the out of order offers. Looking through, there may be some interaction in competitive auctions that's causing these out of order issues too, so we'll investigate how we can correct that up.
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Old 06-08-2025, 06:16 PM   #19
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While you're looking into contracts, are people supposed to have such a wide range of asks from different teams?

I have a player who wanted 12 mil a year for 3 years who just signed with another team for 5 mil a year for 2 years. That seems rather excessive. There's been a lots of complaints in our league about this happening all offseason.
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Old 06-08-2025, 09:20 PM   #20
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Matt,
If you need additional examples or files sent, I can offer mine....same issue--multiple offers lessened after the fact by game.
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