Has a $ league ever been tried?

Randall · 12-12-2003, 10:32 PM

Something liek all owners put in some amount (say $5) each season...

The playoff teams, or World Series winner, or best record in reg season or something take home the $, or split it...

I'm curious if thias has been tried before, if so, how did it work, if not, is it possible to find enough people who like the idea to make it work...

sixfour210 · 12-12-2003, 10:37 PM

I guess we're past due for one of these posts. . .

Eckstein 4 Prez · 12-12-2003, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by sixfour210
I guess we're past due for one of these posts. . .

Right you are.... it's been a couple months since the last one, I think.

Randall - every few months someone suggests it, and then about 500 people explain why it's not feasible and everyone ends up arguing with everyone else about it. I just don't think it would work, and unless you're ready for a big argument about it.... walk away.

potatoman · 12-12-2003, 11:05 PM

I guess it might work with a fantasy draft and only if the commish does not own a team himself but a commish could make an alias and pretend he's not owning it

Lubby · 12-12-2003, 11:10 PM

You'd have to find someone who is trustworthy, I would do it if it was someone I trusted running the league...

Greg
CWBL Commish
www.cwbl.ca

satchel · 12-12-2003, 11:38 PM

Some leagues have done it with varying success. No one single reason will automatically sabotage it, so it can be done.

The idea does appear here often.

sixfour210 · 12-13-2003, 12:55 AM

Are there any copyright issues with this idea? I mean doesn't the fact that we're using other people's namesakes while there's money involved mean that we need permission?

I have no idea, that's why I'm asking. Just seems like there could be some legal ramifications to this idea also.

LivnLegend · 12-13-2003, 01:30 AM

It might work best if it is done with an established league rather than a startup league.

If everyone is already comfortable with their fellow owners they are playing with and the Commissioner, that may help

ill16ca · 12-13-2003, 02:11 AM

If anyone is interested in starting a money league, please make out your $500 checks to Andrew Smith, and send them to the address in the link provided in this post.

Link

clarnzz · 12-13-2003, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ill16ca
If anyone is interested in starting a money league, please make out your $500 checks to Andrew Smith, and send them to the address in the link provided in this post.

Link

I keep clicking the link and it doesn't work??? Am I doing something wrong?

crackpott · 12-13-2003, 04:28 AM

Problem outside of trust would be the following... odds are a team is going to turn into crap. That owner will no longer pay for it. And if I'm paying, I wouldn't want to take it over either. It would be very hard to replace that owners team. The only way around that is to have owners pay like 5 seasons up front.

dougaiton · 12-13-2003, 06:53 AM

Or you run a fantasy draft every year - that's your other option. Otherwise, for about 9 million different reasons (do a search), it wouldn't work.

ill16ca · 12-13-2003, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by clarnzz
I keep clicking the link and it doesn't work??? Am I doing something wrong?

PM me. I'll give it to you.

JerseyPride · 12-13-2003, 10:20 AM

I think the best idea for a money league would be to start a league, and then after a few seasons once you know everyone trusts the commissioner and the other general managers, then the idea of making it a money issue should be discussed.

mking55 · 12-13-2003, 03:15 PM

This is kind of weird to say, as you will see, but I would never join a money league.

However, I am the commissioner and an owner in one. It is $3 a season to play and we are in our 4th season. Mark Cooley and I created the league and he had an idea we adopted which is great.

The World Series winner gets a gift certificate to the Cooperstown Ballcap Company to get a baseball cap.

You can pay season by season, or a bunch of seasons in advance. I won the first 2. Like I said, I am the commissioner so even though people know I cheat, the charm of my personality keeps them coming back.

We have had a few owners that paid a few seasons in advance and then quit. There are no refunds and they didn't ask for their money back.

Anyhow, I love the cap idea. I think everyone in the league does. It gives us something to "wear over someone's head" when we win.

The league is Playball and there are photos from the league's story archives here and here.

Anyhow, this is sort of a "money" league with a cap on it.

JerseyPride · 12-13-2003, 04:51 PM

Has there been any problems with it? How do you have your owners pay..

mking55 · 12-13-2003, 06:14 PM

Absolutely no problems.

We accept personal check or money order. People mail them in. We used to do paypal, but the amounts are so small, we don't want to give any of the money to a 3rd party.

simboy · 12-14-2003, 01:06 AM

PLAYBALL is an excellant league created by Martin and Cooley. I didn't want to use Paypall so I had sent Cooley a personal check.
And, the Cooley Cap is what we all aim for.

DHS23 · 12-14-2003, 04:08 AM

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Originally posted by mking55
Like I said, I am the commissioner so even though people know I cheat, the charm of my personality keeps them coming back.

Did anyone else notice this, or did you just pass over it?

crackpott · 12-14-2003, 04:32 AM

i'm pretty sure it was a joke.

12-12-2003, 10:32 PM	#1
Randall Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: VA Posts: 321	Has a $ league ever been tried? Something liek all owners put in some amount (say $5) each season... The playoff teams, or World Series winner, or best record in reg season or something take home the $, or split it... I'm curious if thias has been tried before, if so, how did it work, if not, is it possible to find enough people who like the idea to make it work... __________________ Randall FORT - Atlanta Braves CPL - Pittsburg Pirates Formerly NABL - Philadelphia Phillies Formerly GMC - Vasto Rangers Formerly NBA - Atlanta Braves - 1973 Champ Formerly ThePBL - Anaheim Angels - 1975 Champ

12-12-2003, 10:37 PM	#2
sixfour210 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,227	I guess we're past due for one of these posts. . . __________________

12-12-2003, 11:05 PM	#4
potatoman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,410 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I guess it might work with a fantasy draft and only if the commish does not own a team himself but a commish could make an alias and pretend he's not owning it __________________ GFBL - Storm - 5 seasons - 500 - 310 New Jersey Nighthawks (1227-717) Last 5 seasons 2011: 118-44 2012: 100-62 2013: 111-51 2014: 106-56 2015: 108-54 OTBA Champions: 2008, 2010,2011

12-12-2003, 11:38 PM	#6
satchel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft Smith Ark. USA Posts: 2,681	Some leagues have done it with varying success. No one single reason will automatically sabotage it, so it can be done. The idea does appear here often. __________________ JL Commish NPBL Rhode Island Reds ’33 ’34 ’35 TCBA San Francisco Railbornes ’74 ’76 ’77 ’78 FL New Orleans Black Sox ’56 ’57 ’58 ’59

12-13-2003, 12:55 AM	#7
sixfour210 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,227	Are there any copyright issues with this idea? I mean doesn't the fact that we're using other people's namesakes while there's money involved mean that we need permission? I have no idea, that's why I'm asking. Just seems like there could be some legal ramifications to this idea also. __________________

12-12-2003, 11:10 PM	#5
Lubby Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Parry Sound Posts: 184	You'd have to find someone who is trustworthy, I would do it if it was someone I trusted running the league... Greg CWBL Commish www.cwbl.ca

12-13-2003, 01:30 AM	#8
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	It might work best if it is done with an established league rather than a startup league. If everyone is already comfortable with their fellow owners they are playing with and the Commissioner, that may help __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

12-13-2003, 02:11 AM	#9
ill16ca All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 690	If anyone is interested in starting a money league, please make out your $500 checks to Andrew Smith, and send them to the address in the link provided in this post. Link

12-13-2003, 04:28 AM	#11
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	Problem outside of trust would be the following... odds are a team is going to turn into crap. That owner will no longer pay for it. And if I'm paying, I wouldn't want to take it over either. It would be very hard to replace that owners team. The only way around that is to have owners pay like 5 seasons up front. __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.

12-13-2003, 06:53 AM	#12
dougaiton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location: Posts: 3,414	Or you run a fantasy draft every year - that's your other option. Otherwise, for about 9 million different reasons (do a search), it wouldn't work. __________________ tThis shower of clowns My park-adjusted, historically split Born in '69 league file! (also at Joe's wonderful site +BBSC)

12-13-2003, 10:20 AM	#14
JerseyPride All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dirtay Jerzey Posts: 951	I think the best idea for a money league would be to start a league, and then after a few seasons once you know everyone trusts the commissioner and the other general managers, then the idea of making it a money issue should be discussed. __________________ "I guess you could call the Yanks my daddys." -Pedro Martinez

12-13-2003, 03:15 PM	#15
mking55 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boading, China Posts: 1,249	This is kind of weird to say, as you will see, but I would never join a money league. However, I am the commissioner and an owner in one. It is $3 a season to play and we are in our 4th season. Mark Cooley and I created the league and he had an idea we adopted which is great. The World Series winner gets a gift certificate to the Cooperstown Ballcap Company to get a baseball cap. You can pay season by season, or a bunch of seasons in advance. I won the first 2. Like I said, I am the commissioner so even though people know I cheat, the charm of my personality keeps them coming back. We have had a few owners that paid a few seasons in advance and then quit. There are no refunds and they didn't ask for their money back. Anyhow, I love the cap idea. I think everyone in the league does. It gives us something to "wear over someone's head" when we win. The league is Playball and there are photos from the league's story archives here and here. Anyhow, this is sort of a "money" league with a cap on it.

12-13-2003, 04:51 PM	#16
JerseyPride All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dirtay Jerzey Posts: 951	Has there been any problems with it? How do you have your owners pay.. __________________ "I guess you could call the Yanks my daddys." -Pedro Martinez

12-13-2003, 06:14 PM	#17
mking55 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boading, China Posts: 1,249	Absolutely no problems. We accept personal check or money order. People mail them in. We used to do paypal, but the amounts are so small, we don't want to give any of the money to a 3rd party.

12-14-2003, 01:06 AM	#18
simboy Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 36	PLAYBALL is an excellant league created by Martin and Cooley. I didn't want to use Paypall so I had sent Cooley a personal check. And, the Cooley Cap is what we all aim for. __________________ Free Agent

12-14-2003, 04:32 AM	#20
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	i'm pretty sure it was a joke. __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.