Recalc Mode in Fictional League

szathkey · 05-26-2025, 12:22 PM

Hi all, quick question.

I just started a fictional league that I am adding historical players to...Development is turned on, so that has grayed out recalc.

However, behind that gray out, recalc is checked as "on" for both current ratings and potential.

So a few questions...

1) If recalc is grayed out, does that mean its OFF, regardless of what is checked or not?
2) If the two recalc boxes being checked means that recalc is ON, what can I do to turn them off? I've tried so many things already.
3) If it can't be turned off, does that mean recalc mode is necessary in fictional leagues?

The answer to this last question seems like it would be no, so I am hopeful there is just a solution I am missing. Thanks for the help in advance!

szathkey · 05-28-2025, 12:09 PM

Doesn’t anyone know the answer to this question??

Brad K · 05-28-2025, 12:53 PM

I'm sure someone knows for sure but they haven't been by.

Sometimes grayed out seems to mean off. At other times it means you can't change the setting on the date the game is in.

If I had to guess I'd say that since recalc wouldn't apply to a fictional league, which is what you selected, then it probably is off and can't be turned on.

Matt Arnold · 05-29-2025, 05:00 AM

If those options are greyed out, recalc shouldn't be run in the league. I believe we only allow recalc in leagues created in the historical setup.

luckymann · 05-29-2025, 06:35 AM

Yes, as it currently sits, to have the ability to apply recalc the save must be created as an HISTORICAL one in the main OOTP menu. At least that is how I understand it.

If so it is a bit of a silly rule, really, one I feel might need revisiting. Surely, the recalc can only be applied to players with historical stat lines. So I don't see the harm in having at least the option of applying it to any such players that might appear regardless of the type of game setup one chooses initially.

I understand this is likely some sort of programming necessity but all the same I do believe it should get another look-at to see if this change can be implemented. For those that like to set up fictional worlds but use historical players in them, either via the historical rookies option, random debut or manual importation, it would be most useful IMHO.

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Rain King · 05-29-2025, 09:17 AM

Just want to point out that you do have the ability to create a historical game and then add a fictional world.

I imagine adding Recalc to fictional setups is possible, but complicated. It would need to be done in a "Random Debut" type of way where the Recalc happens by Age of the player instead of by Year of the league.

szathkey · 05-29-2025, 11:34 AM

Thanks all!

I was starting a historical league in 1857 based on some of the materials others have used to do so...

Since I am doing that, I will very much be importing real players every year.

Very helpful info everyone!

OutS|der · 05-29-2025, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

If those options are greyed out, recalc shouldn't be run in the league. I believe we only allow recalc in leagues created in the historical setup.

So meaning my using the OOTP21 MLB quickstart in the latest version isn't consider historical?

05-26-2025, 12:22 PM	#1
szathkey Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 193	Recalc Mode in Fictional League Hi all, quick question. I just started a fictional league that I am adding historical players to...Development is turned on, so that has grayed out recalc. However, behind that gray out, recalc is checked as "on" for both current ratings and potential. So a few questions... 1) If recalc is grayed out, does that mean its OFF, regardless of what is checked or not? 2) If the two recalc boxes being checked means that recalc is ON, what can I do to turn them off? I've tried so many things already. 3) If it can't be turned off, does that mean recalc mode is necessary in fictional leagues? The answer to this last question seems like it would be no, so I am hopeful there is just a solution I am missing. Thanks for the help in advance!

05-28-2025, 12:53 PM	#3
Brad K Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,657 Infractions: 0/2 (3)	I'm sure someone knows for sure but they haven't been by. Sometimes grayed out seems to mean off. At other times it means you can't change the setting on the date the game is in. If I had to guess I'd say that since recalc wouldn't apply to a fictional league, which is what you selected, then it probably is off and can't be turned on. __________________ . Pirates Play Moneyball 1951-2008 Ratings and League Totals Modifiers A new pre-calc file! (Applause!) Settings and Auto-calc Popular Opinions and Undisputable Facts The cover up is usually more damaging than the original act.

05-29-2025, 06:35 AM	#5
luckymann Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 13,021	Yes, as it currently sits, to have the ability to apply recalc the save must be created as an HISTORICAL one in the main OOTP menu. At least that is how I understand it. If so it is a bit of a silly rule, really, one I feel might need revisiting. Surely, the recalc can only be applied to players with historical stat lines. So I don't see the harm in having at least the option of applying it to any such players that might appear regardless of the type of game setup one chooses initially. I understand this is likely some sort of programming necessity but all the same I do believe it should get another look-at to see if this change can be implemented. For those that like to set up fictional worlds but use historical players in them, either via the historical rookies option, random debut or manual importation, it would be most useful IMHO. G __________________ HISTORICAL DO-OVERS A'S RED SOX DODGERS CUSTOM SAVES ECLIPSE LEAGUE MOON SHOT LEAGUE EVERYMAN LEAGUE GULF LEAGUE USBA

05-28-2025, 12:09 PM	#2
szathkey Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 193	Doesn’t anyone know the answer to this question??

05-29-2025, 05:00 AM	#4
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,717	If those options are greyed out, recalc shouldn't be run in the league. I believe we only allow recalc in leagues created in the historical setup.

05-29-2025, 09:17 AM	#6
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,072 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Just want to point out that you do have the ability to create a historical game and then add a fictional world. I imagine adding Recalc to fictional setups is possible, but complicated. It would need to be done in a "Random Debut" type of way where the Recalc happens by Age of the player instead of by Year of the league.

05-29-2025, 11:34 AM	#7
szathkey Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 193	Thanks all! I was starting a historical league in 1857 based on some of the materials others have used to do so... Since I am doing that, I will very much be importing real players every year. Very helpful info everyone!