2025 MLB Thread

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

I can see how Miranda may have thought the 2B had touched the bag. Which is for naught because today, Miranda is once again a Saint.

Just step on the bag. It costs you nothing. I watched this yesterday and it looked rather half-arsed by him.

[Cobra Mgr]

Didn't know about this in the rule book.

[Westheim]

Cubs are having one heck of a meltdown right now. 10-run top of the eighth for the Snakes and they're still batting.

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by Westheim

Cubs are having one heck of a meltdown right now. 10-run top of the eighth for the Snakes and they're still batting.

Nvm, just a temporary glitch, nothing a 6-run counterrally couldn't fix.

[low]

Kind of cool for the Pirates to do:

https://www.mlb.com/news/pirates-giv...-in-attendance

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by low

Kind of cool for the Pirates to do:

https://www.mlb.com/news/pirates-giv...-in-attendance

There is hope for that franchise, perhaps.

[Cobra Mgr]

Show me where Acuna lies

[LD84]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Show me where Acuna lies

It is a double standard for sure. I cannot say why there is a double standard for fear of the mods closing the thread.

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Show me where Acuna lies

Acuna has had attitude problems from day one. He apparently hasn't learned a thing since. I'm not saying he's *wrong*, but it was also an indoor thought.

Kelenic is just a terrible hitter somehow failing along in MLB. (Still would like to reverse the Boom-Boom Diaz trade...)

[LD84]

Originally Posted by Westheim

Acuna has had attitude problems from day one. He apparently hasn't learned a thing since. I'm not saying he's *wrong*, but it was also an indoor thought.

but it was also an indoor thought

Well this is also true. He is correct, and there is a double standard. But this is something you address in house.

But I can understand his and other players frustration with this issue and wanting to point it out publicly.
But as the best player on your team, you cant do that in public.

[reds1]

Reds scorch the Orioles 24-2 this afternoon, but the highlight of the game was a defensive play.

C'mon Reds, lets distribute these runs a little more evenly and win some more ballgames.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by Westheim

Acuna has had attitude problems from day one. He apparently hasn't learned a thing since. I'm not saying he's *wrong*, but it was also an indoor thought.

Kelenic is just a terrible hitter somehow failing along in MLB. (Still would like to reverse the Boom-Boom Diaz trade...)

Nice. Acuna points out correctly the inconsistency in the administration of discipline and that is a sign of an "attitude" problem.

When we see we are treated unfairly, we should all have "attitude" problems. I always get an "attitude" problem when stuff like this happens.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by LD84

but it was also an indoor thought

Well this is also true. He is correct, and there is a double standard. But this is something you address in house.

But I can understand his and other players frustration with this issue and wanting to point it out publicly.
But as the best player on your team, you cant do that in public.

I disagree you keep it "in house". Did Snitcker keep it "in house" when he sat Acuna?

"He didn't run. You've got to run," Snitker said of Acuna after the 2019 game. "It's not going to be acceptable here. As a teammate, you're responsible for 24 other guys. That name on the front is a lot more important than the name on the back of that jersey. You can't do that. We're trying to accomplish something and do something special here, and personal things have got to be put on the back burner. You just can't let your team down like that."

Not too mention Snitcker claims he "wasn't watching" the Kelenic play????? Really?!!? Dude is the frikkin' manager & he wasn't frikkin' paying attention??!???!!! How about dude take himself out of the game to set an example to the rest of his team about accountability???!!

Bull manure.

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Nice. Acuna points out correctly the inconsistency in the administration of discipline and that is a sign of an "attitude" problem.

When we see we are treated unfairly, we should all have "attitude" problems. I always get an "attitude" problem when stuff like this happens.

The attitude problem is that Acuna is well known to shift down to second gear whenever he can't give a damn. Not running out grounders, admiring "homers" that fall short of the wall and, oops, now you gotta stop at first base. Wearing more bling than body armor... Obnoxious celebrations, too, but that has taken hold of the entire league at this stage...

Going back to your original question, Acuna is not lying. I don't know what the thought process is behind the whole thing (and we're six years removed from the particular instance getting singled out in all the articles), but the Barves knew back then that they were dealing with a top talent and a perpetual All Star. Maybe removing him from a game in the third inning for showboating can fix him, and then he won't be a nuisance for the next 15 years? (In any case, didn't work out so well)

Kelenic? Might get waived off the roster any day, why bother when he's somebody else's problem in June?

Regardless, one should never air out their personal grievances with their direct manager on social media for everyone to see. That needs to be sorted out internally rather than fanning the flames and making it all about yourself when the team is entirely busy and occupied with trying to climb out of the crater left by an 0-7 start... you've been cross with Snitker for your entire career, we get it. Don't you have a knee to rehab? Be careful not to sprain a thumb tweeting late at night...

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by Westheim

The attitude problem is that Acuna is well known to shift down to second gear whenever he can't give a damn. Not running out grounders, admiring "homers" that fall short of the wall and, oops, now you gotta stop at first base. Wearing more bling than body armor... Obnoxious celebrations, too, but that has taken hold of the entire league at this stage...

Going back to your original question, Acuna is not lying. I don't know what the thought process is behind the whole thing (and we're six years removed from the particular instance getting singled out in all the articles), but the Barves knew back then that they were dealing with a top talent and a perpetual All Star. Maybe removing him from a game in the third inning for showboating can fix him, and then he won't be a nuisance for the next 15 years? (In any case, didn't work out so well)

Kelenic? Might get waived off the roster any day, why bother when he's somebody else's problem in June?

Regardless, one should never air out their personal grievances with their direct manager on social media for everyone to see. That needs to be sorted out internally rather than fanning the flames and making it all about yourself when the team is entirely busy and occupied with trying to climb out of the crater left by an 0-7 start... you've been cross with Snitker for your entire career, we get it. Don't you have a knee to rehab? Be careful not to sprain a thumb tweeting late at night...

Originally Posted by Acts 16:37

But Paul said to them: “They flogged us publicly, uncondemned, though we are Romans, and threw us into prison. Are they now throwing us out secretly? No, indeed! Let them come themselves and escort us out.”

Originally Posted by Galatians 2:11-14

However, when Ceʹphas came to Antioch, I resisted him face-to-face, because he was clearly in the wrong. For before certain men from James arrived, he used to eat with people of the nations; but when they arrived, he stopped doing this and separated himself, fearing those of the circumcised class. The rest of the Jews also joined him in putting on this pretense, so that even Barʹna·bas was led along with them in their pretense. But when I saw that they were not walking in step with the truth of the good news, I said to Ceʹphas before them all: “If you, though you are a Jew, live as the nations do and not as Jews do, how can you compel people of the nations to live according to Jewish practice?”

When you publicly embarrass & strip the dignity of someone, you don't get to have yourself corrected privately.

This is another example of how the biased treatment of people from a specific background is excused as anything but what it is. This isn't about whether Acuna should have been benched. It isn't about whether Kelenic is worth bothering over. It is about Snitcker's failure to administer discipline in a fair manner and whether he is capable & trustworthy enough to lead in a non-discriminatory fashion.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by LD84

It is a double standard for sure. I cannot say why there is a double standard for fear of the mods closing the thread.

But I can guess as to what you are referring, and I think it off-base. (No pun.)

When Acuna was benched in 2019, he was "already an All-Star." Kelenic is a nobody, going nowhere.

What lunatic manager would intentionally punish an All-Star but go easy on a scrub based solely on race? If anything, it would be the other way around and Kelenic would be complaining about Acuna being favored in this situation.

Admittedly, Snitker's responses about "timing," and "no blanket thing," and "wasn't watching" are incredibly lame. But maybe he thought of doing what he did 6 years ago because he really cared about budding star Acuna, wanting him to learn the right lesson, whereas yesterday he just didn't really feel motivated about Kelenic, one way or the other.

[low]

Brewers set a franchise record for steals today:

https://www.mlb.com/brewers/news/bre...in-game-inning

On a related note, the A's have played some of the worst defensive games I've ever seen in my life in this series.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

But I can guess as to what you are referring, and I think it off-base. (No pun.)

When Acuna was benched in 2019, he was "already an All-Star." Kelenic is a nobody, going nowhere.

What lunatic manager would intentionally punish an All-Star but go easy on a scrub based solely on race? If anything, it would be the other way around and Kelenic would be complaining about Acuna being favored in this situation.

Admittedly, Snitker's responses about "timing," and "no blanket thing," and "wasn't watching" are incredibly lame. But maybe he thought of doing what he did 6 years ago because he really cared about budding star Acuna, wanting him to learn the right lesson, whereas yesterday he just didn't really feel motivated about Kelenic, one way or the other.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by low

On a related note, the A's have played some of the worst defensive games I've ever seen in my life in this series.

It's ongoing. Note the "View all" link at the bottom.

[Amazin69]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

When you publicly embarrass & strip the dignity of someone, you don't get to have yourself corrected privately.

This is another example of how the biased treatment of people from a specific background is excused as anything but what it is. This isn't about whether Acuna should have been benched. It isn't about whether Kelenic is worth bothering over. It is about Snitcker's failure to administer discipline in a fair manner and whether he is capable & trustworthy enough to lead in a non-discriminatory fashion.

Couldn't it simply be that Snit realizes he made a wrong move with Acuña and six years later, decided not to repeat his previous mistake? Less "double-standard", more "that didn't work, better try something else".

Emerson's "foolish consistency" and all that? Just a thought.

(Yes, Snit's excuses are lame beyond lame. But managers who publicly proclaim "I ****ed up" quite often swiftly become ex-managers, even if they've been in the organization since the team was in Milwaukee or however long Snit's been there.)