CAN'T WIN - My team is a combination of Buffalo Bills/Minn. Vikings

[mrjordanss]

Buffalo and Minnesota are a combined 0-8 in Super Bowls and I am pretty close to them. I think it's 6 seasons now.

Win 90 games, lose in WS, win 95 games lose in WS, win 100 games, lose in WS to a different team every year

Was up 3-1 and lost 3 straight games in 9th inning collapses. choke, choke, choke

BTW I have the best pitching staff in the league but they always choke and its different all stars every time.

Also all my all star best hitters suddenly choke in the playoffs...hit 300 in season, 100 in playoffs, etc

Deepest team in the league suddenly becomes incompetent....best fielding team statistically with 4 errors in one game...

It goes on and on.

Seems like the game is artificially hard without any reasoning that makes sense. I can predict what's going to happen before it does. I feel like giving up this game because it's fixed against me.

WTF??????????????

[r0nster]

do not fret. We all have had teams like that the best in the league and i have had 2 teams that won 105 games only to lose either in first round winless or lose all 4 in World Series.... There are times we want to throw the PC (or laptop) out the window. There will be times when we want to celebrate. We all have gone through this before. Welcome to the club and now you really are a member of the OOTP team. Let us know when you do win the Series

[mrjordanss]

Originally Posted by r0nster

do not fret. We all have had teams like that the best in the league and i have had 2 teams that won 105 games only to lose either in first round winless or lose all 4 in World Series.... There are times we want to throw the PC (or laptop) out the window. There will be times when we want to celebrate. We all have gone through this before. Welcome to the club and now you really are a member of the OOTP team. Let us know when you do win the Series

well I appreciate that but I dont know if I can take it. Please loo at all this, proof that we are a dominating team, won 102 games and my closer was the best. Now he cant hit the side of a barn. Why are all my stars choking?

[mrjordanss]

hitters here...star players are hitting .100 or so in the playoffs vs 300 reg season. NOT JUST ONE GUY EITHER!
Granted, my hitters are not top notch becayuse I built the team on defense and pitching but I am still first in the league in batting avg, second in WAR and 4th in runs scored. Team is "ECSTATIC" in cohesiveness and it Doesn't matter if I sim or play through the games, either way my team collapses.

[mrjordanss]

Lost again in game 7 and...

[Brad K]

You compared your results to Buffalo and Minnesota. You said OOTP is fixed against you, If follows then, that you must believe the Super Bowl is fixed against Buffalo and Minnesota.

Speaking of the Super Bowl, did you notice last night how often the announces said "right off the bat" and "home run threat"? Football has come a long way but still can't drop baseball references.

Since you reference playoffs I assume you're playing some modern schedule with lots of division winners plus wild cards. Yet you've made the world series multiple times. With a modern playoff setup, that is an unusual accomplishment. Think about it. Multi round playoffs and the odds of the better team winning each round is just a bit over 50%. You've done quite well.

[Curve Ball Dave]

I feel your pain. My team kept winning the division then got bounced out of the playoffs in the first round three straight years. Then I spent mega bucks on a superstar free agent and we won the WS. Considering how much work went into building the team (23/25 players came through my farm system via the draft, minor league free agent signings, and trades while the players were still in the minors) I can't tell you satisfying it is finally win.


Keep at it. Hard work will eventually pay off.

[mrjordanss]

Thanks I appreciate the responses. Just wanted to share my record to show What I've been going through For 6 years...

[Bobfather]

Originally Posted by mrjordanss

Buffalo and Minnesota are a combined 0-8 in Super Bowls and I am pretty close to them. I think it's 6 seasons now.

Win 90 games, lose in WS, win 95 games lose in WS, win 100 games, lose in WS to a different team every year

Was up 3-1 and lost 3 straight games in 9th inning collapses. choke, choke, choke

BTW I have the best pitching staff in the league but they always choke and its different all stars every time.

Also all my all star best hitters suddenly choke in the playoffs...hit 300 in season, 100 in playoffs, etc

Deepest team in the league suddenly becomes incompetent....best fielding team statistically with 4 errors in one game...

It goes on and on.

Seems like the game is artificially hard without any reasoning that makes sense. I can predict what's going to happen before it does. I feel like giving up this game because it's fixed against me.

WTF??????????????

Are you simming or playing games out? Do you change your managerial style? Do you sit down slumping players or change batting order. Do you have a quicker hook for starting pitchers, ride the hot RP?

[BaseballMan]

Maybe its just bad luck in the postseason.
Maybe its the strategy you used against one team in the playoffs
is what you should have used against another.
Maybe you just made more costly bad moves.
Maybe you're depending too much on what you did in the regular season or maybe your getting away from what you did.
Maybe the ai just made the right move at the right time.
Like a opponent in real life.
I don't think its something you're doing wrong or the game is cheating.
I think you're just having an extremely bad streak of lousy luck.
You have a 162 games to adjust and change things in the regular season.
You don't have as many in the regular season.
You may not have noticed how well you played when losing a series in the regular season because not as much is at stake.
I don't think you are Buffalo or Minnesota.
I think its more like the 90's Braves or the 41-55 Dodgers.
Just took awhile for them to get the job done.
If you really think something is wrong then why not save the season before proceeding to the playoffs and just replay it over and over till you are convinced if it something is wrong or is it just bad luck.

[Pelican]

Your team for sure looks stacked and built for the post-season. One idea I had was acquiring a reliever with great stuff to use as a "stopper" in OOTP. Particularly in the post-season, it is so helpful to have a guy to bring in at a crucial point in the game to challenge hitters. Like with the sacks jammed, you really need a strikeout; not a ground ball or fly ball.

Do not give up! Even the woebegone Atlanta Braves finally won a World Series. Only after years of solid regular season records. And in the early years, they had arguably the best starting staff ever. Yet each year they would choke in the post-season. Your guys will figure it out - someday.

[Brad K]

The season and playoff results show that a team that finished second, nine games out, and second, ten games out, and made it to the WS. It had to beat superior teams to accomplish that. I can't be sympathetic about the team losing the WS.

[mrjordanss]

Again I appreciate all the responses thanks guys
Does everyone think that a stopper would Help the situation?
I currently have two setup guys and one closer and it usually works for me except In the World Series.

[Pdubya64]

Just a couple observations, but in general I agree with the other's sentiments.

Your pitching staff is in a much better place than the hitters. While you lead in hitting, your guys aren't pushing runners across the plate as well as the best teams. You also lack home run power on the team, which can win you some of those games you might lose otherwise and you don't have many guys with good eyes at the plate; so not enough walks or home runs.

Don't fret too much. You are headed in the right direction, pitching and defense can get you into the playoffs but won't push you over the finish line on their own. A dominating offense is key to allowing you to still win on a starters lousy day. Again, your position players are pretty good, but just not quite at the level where they can do well against the best competition.

Keep it up. Coaching and staff are important long term components as well. Don't trip up by forgetting them.
Good luck, you will get there.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by mrjordanss

Again I appreciate all the responses thanks guys
Does everyone think that a stopper would Help the situation?
I currently have two setup guys and one closer and it usually works for me except In the World Series.

Instead of focusing on perceived post season deficiencies, I suggest you instead build a better overall team. When you've done that, the best way to improve your chances in the post season is to reduce the number of teams that qualify.

Get rid of the current MLB format and only let division winners into the post season. And have fewer but larger divisions. It's your game. Play it your way. There's no reason to have settings you don't like.

The current MLB system is rigged against the best teams by giving pretenders to the championship a second chance, Make yours one of the best teams and keep the pretenders out of the post season.

[mrjordanss]

It happened again, this time in the first round- won 107 games best season ever in the league and bounced in the first round 3-0. Heck I even rage quit to see what would happen and I lost 3-1 in the first round.

COME ON MAN. My pitcher was 22-7 with a sub 3.00 era and gets knocked out in the second inning? GIVE ME A BREAK. I even hired a manager who had won the WS with another team thinking that maybe he could do better but NOOOOOOOO

I even made trades to better my team to the point that I thought we had the most talent in the league and of course I get punished for it... trade for best defensive catcher with best framing, MORE top pitchers to add to the #1 staff, etc...

I understand the need to Make things difficult for the User, however when it becomes so predictable that you know what's going to happen even before it does, it kills the fun of it

[Brad K]

In the future I'm going to get vaccinated before posting to bad luck threads. Or even before reading them. And wear a face mask. They're contagious.

I got four in the top of first and another in the top of the second for a 5-0 lead. In the fourth Mickey Lolich gave them all back. When Lolich came up in the top of the fifth the bases were loaded. Awful early to hit for him but he's been awful. Pinch hitter drove in three and I got another for a 9-5 lead.

Brought in Wilbur Wood for the bottom half. He gave back two right away. 9-7 lead.

Brought in Bob Locker. Two hits and a walk in two innings. OK, cool. Still 9-7.

Locker came up in the top of the eight with the bases loaded. Took his bat away. PH hit a SF and I got another run in the inning. Now 11-7.

I brought in Rollie Fingers for the eighth. Efficiency is his middle name. It took him only twelve pitches to get three outs... and allow three runs. Amazing. Lead down to 11-10.

I brought in Jim Brewer for the ninth. A walk and two hits to wrap up a 11-12 loss. But he did record one out!

And those are big name pitchers! I need a bigger name pitcher. Maybe Dave Wehrmeister. Eleven letters there!