Penalty minutes bugged?

Amme · 02-12-2025, 03:29 PM

I have been playing the new update, and it looks like penalty minutes have something wrong.

There is too little penalty minutes compared to real life statistics, i wonder is it because the game is not calculating the fights as penalty minutes?

There is aswell very few major penalties and no penalty misconducts or game misconduct penalties.

I have attached few screenshots.

I am using the 2d engine.

JeffR · 02-13-2025, 05:06 AM

I did some work on the number of penalties and fights in 2D for the update, and the PIM numbers have been a little low, but with full-season PIM leaders right around last season's numbers. I'm going to continue to work on it for the final update, but it's proving a little difficult to pin down with the real-life NHL numbers at record lows.

Amme · 02-13-2025, 07:15 AM

Thanks for the reply. if you look at my screenshots for example Ross Johnston has 17 minor penalties for 34 minutes of total PIM. On top of that he has 6 fights. that should be additional 30minutes of PIM for total of 64PIM, but it is not calculating that, and it shows 0 major penalties. Is this how it is supposed to be? if it is, then there is no problem and it was my misunderstanding.

JeffR · 02-14-2025, 04:56 AM

Ah, I see what you mean. But when I check the same screen in my saves, the minutes are adding up correctly, e.g. I see 153 PIM with 44 minors, 5 majors, 3 10-minute misconducts and a game misconduct. If you re-load your save do the PIM totals work correctly? I'm wondering if there might be a temporary display error somewhere that gets fixed on reload, that would explain why I'm not seeing it.

Amme · 02-14-2025, 07:35 AM

If by reload you mean quit and open the save again it does not fix it. I have had some other weird problems, like not seeing some players historical TOI numbers, aswell as it seems to be using different patch of the game in opening night rosters vs current rosters, because opening night rosters some goalies play close to 80 games a season, and current rosters goalies only play max 68 which seems to be accurate to real life. I read somewhere that there was a problem like that, in the early patches of the game. Lastly i did download facepack through steam workshop and deleted it afterwards, and it still works in the opening night rosters and not the current rosters.

Maybe i need to do clean install of the game, i have noticed that even if you uninstall the game through steam, it still leaves files on your computer. i still have previous edition fhm files in my computer.

JeffR · 02-14-2025, 08:50 AM

The previous versions won't affect anything in this one. But I'd like to have a look at your save if you've got stuff like that going on, please upload it (uploading instructions at https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...ad.php?t=34182 ).

Amme · 02-14-2025, 11:24 AM

I dont think you sent the right link, but i was able to find the instructions.

The files name is Amme.lg.rar

JeffR · 02-17-2025, 05:05 AM

Oops, yeah, that was the wrong link. But I'm seeing the same thing you are with the penalties in the save, so something very odd is going on, we'll dig into this a little further.

02-12-2025, 03:29 PM	#1
Amme Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2024 Posts: 5	Penalty minutes bugged? I have been playing the new update, and it looks like penalty minutes have something wrong. There is too little penalty minutes compared to real life statistics, i wonder is it because the game is not calculating the fights as penalty minutes? There is aswell very few major penalties and no penalty misconducts or game misconduct penalties. I have attached few screenshots. I am using the 2d engine. Attached Images Last edited by Amme; 02-12-2025 at 03:38 PM.

02-14-2025, 11:24 AM	#7
Amme Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2024 Posts: 5	I dont think you sent the right link, but i was able to find the instructions. The files name is Amme.lg.rar Last edited by Amme; 02-14-2025 at 11:26 AM.

02-13-2025, 05:06 AM	#2
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,425	I did some work on the number of penalties and fights in 2D for the update, and the PIM numbers have been a little low, but with full-season PIM leaders right around last season's numbers. I'm going to continue to work on it for the final update, but it's proving a little difficult to pin down with the real-life NHL numbers at record lows.

02-13-2025, 07:15 AM	#3
Amme Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2024 Posts: 5	Thanks for the reply. if you look at my screenshots for example Ross Johnston has 17 minor penalties for 34 minutes of total PIM. On top of that he has 6 fights. that should be additional 30minutes of PIM for total of 64PIM, but it is not calculating that, and it shows 0 major penalties. Is this how it is supposed to be? if it is, then there is no problem and it was my misunderstanding.

02-14-2025, 04:56 AM	#4
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,425	Ah, I see what you mean. But when I check the same screen in my saves, the minutes are adding up correctly, e.g. I see 153 PIM with 44 minors, 5 majors, 3 10-minute misconducts and a game misconduct. If you re-load your save do the PIM totals work correctly? I'm wondering if there might be a temporary display error somewhere that gets fixed on reload, that would explain why I'm not seeing it.

02-14-2025, 07:35 AM	#5
Amme Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2024 Posts: 5	If by reload you mean quit and open the save again it does not fix it. I have had some other weird problems, like not seeing some players historical TOI numbers, aswell as it seems to be using different patch of the game in opening night rosters vs current rosters, because opening night rosters some goalies play close to 80 games a season, and current rosters goalies only play max 68 which seems to be accurate to real life. I read somewhere that there was a problem like that, in the early patches of the game. Lastly i did download facepack through steam workshop and deleted it afterwards, and it still works in the opening night rosters and not the current rosters. Maybe i need to do clean install of the game, i have noticed that even if you uninstall the game through steam, it still leaves files on your computer. i still have previous edition fhm files in my computer.

02-14-2025, 08:50 AM	#6
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,425	The previous versions won't affect anything in this one. But I'd like to have a look at your save if you've got stuff like that going on, please upload it (uploading instructions at https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...ad.php?t=34182 ).

02-17-2025, 05:05 AM	#8
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,425	Oops, yeah, that was the wrong link. But I'm seeing the same thing you are with the penalties in the save, so something very odd is going on, we'll dig into this a little further.