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Old 01-09-2025, 06:38 PM   #1
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Make Impossible draftees less mad

I get it: impossible means impossible. Except that it doesn't - it just means they'll ask for 6mil or 10mil. A 17 or 18 year old entered the draft, but really doesn't want to sign, but yet they are in the draft and at the negotiating table. And got selected by a major league team.

High demands are fine. 6mil or 10mil for a 17 year old is ridiculous, but hey they were impossible, so that's fine.

What I can't take is the short fuse. It's draft day, they JUST appear, and "they are getting frustrated, this is definitely your last shot"

Why?? What kind of kid and his agent/family is short tempered to this extent when dealing with a set-for-life amount of money? It's ludicrous.

Keep the demands high, that's fine for impossible. Maybe shorten the fuse a bit, there's less room for back and forth! Fine. One try or else is a little unrealistic: are there examples of this? Sure, there are players that reject an offer and go to college and get a much better draft slot and bonus 3 years later. Or even guys like JD Drew playing indy ball, but that's an extreme outlier. But are any like "No thanks to your $5million!" at age 17 and then cash in with 12mil at age 21?
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Old 01-13-2025, 11:39 PM   #2
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I get it: impossible means impossible. Except that it doesn't - it just means they'll ask for 6mil or 10mil. A 17 or 18 year old entered the draft, but really doesn't want to sign, but yet they are in the draft and at the negotiating table. And got selected by a major league team.

High demands are fine. 6mil or 10mil for a 17 year old is ridiculous, but hey they were impossible, so that's fine.

What I can't take is the short fuse. It's draft day, they JUST appear, and "they are getting frustrated, this is definitely your last shot"

Why?? What kind of kid and his agent/family is short tempered to this extent when dealing with a set-for-life amount of money? It's ludicrous.

Keep the demands high, that's fine for impossible. Maybe shorten the fuse a bit, there's less room for back and forth! Fine. One try or else is a little unrealistic: are there examples of this? Sure, there are players that reject an offer and go to college and get a much better draft slot and bonus 3 years later. Or even guys like JD Drew playing indy ball, but that's an extreme outlier. But are any like "No thanks to your $5million!" at age 17 and then cash in with 12mil at age 21?

This is the way baseball and college sports are going. With NIL money a player could get paid more for taking an extra year then they would drafted, and also likely help their future draft spot.
If the recent ruling that junior college doesn't count towards NCAA eligibility you might even see more of it in real life.

The 6 or 12 million part does need fixing, first that would never be offered, second it would never be turned down. Not unless inflation has taken over your league and money value has skyrocketed.
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Old 01-14-2025, 02:39 PM   #3
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I'd like to see numbers on it. The best article I've found is this: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/567...ailed-to-sign/

it highlights two top-3-rounders that didn't sign, and both were 18/19. Others are mentioned, but in some cases teams didnt even make an offer, like the Mets with 9th-rounder Jaxon Jelkin.

It might not be possible to access data on offers to see what 17-19 year olds are turning down $3mil or $5mil deals (none), but there must be numbers on MLB repeat draftees and how much they sign for in that second go round. That would help explain incentive, somewhat.

I want numbers on how many sub-age-21 draftees get competitive MLB signing bonus offers, and turn them down to bet on themselves getting more later. More specifically, how many go into negotiations with an MLB team with zero patience and a you-get-one-chance attitude.
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