HOTFIX: OOTP 25 public beta patch (version 25.8.86) available!

[kidd_05_u2]

Originally Posted by aks62

While pitchers can certainly drop year to year, I question how common it would be that pitchers would lose ticks on their fastball before their prime.

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Yeah, I generally wouldn't expect pitchers to lose velocity in their mid-20's absent injury issues.

I can't tell whether there is a problem with OOTP or not because it depends on the frequency of these occurrences, but it is not super rare for young pitchers to lose velocity, even if healthy. It tends to happen more to the guys with above-average velocity, but it is common overall, especially in the minors.

Jhoan Duran is the biggest example this year, having lost 2mph from his fastball despite being young and healthy. Zach Thompson from the Cardinals I think is another case.

[thenewchuckd]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

We're taking a look at the international prospects falling off too quickly and will fix that up.

I think it is great that you're fixing player development and will look into the international issues. I just wish myself and others who pointed these issues out at least two months ago weren't gaslit by players and devs that were saying everything was fine, nothing to worry about!

I am glad the game is almost getting playable. I still don't know if I should just turn internationals off for now or stop playing completely...

Although I *think* I found a temp workaround for the internationals. I create a "rookie league" for players under 19 & turn DSL into a league everyone can play up until they turn 21. FSL and Arizona league have a minimum age of 18 to play.

The rookie league I make the stat threshold lower than DSL, so 17 year olds can come in and play well.

Maybe I am wrong, but being able to play and have decent stats seems to really help... Otherwise what happens:

-players getting called up from the international complex way too soon and are unable to compete, therefore getting their ratings killed
-players staying at the international complex and falling off a cliff anyways

[jehkob]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Yeah, I generally wouldn't expect pitchers to lose velocity in their mid-20's absent injury issues.

That's certainly something we can keep an eye on going forward.

Ex 1/ Mike Peck - Ironman - 27 years old
Scouting Reports
Injury History

Ex 2/ Lucas Reppond - no arm injuries - 27 years old
Scouting Reports
Injury History

Ex 3/ Emo Youngs - no injuries - 23 years old
Scouting
Inury History

All in the last week IRL. On the latest patch. TCR is set to default. This is kinda ridiculous.
https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/....php?p=5138849 from this league if that is helpful.

[tktkrtktkr]

Originally Posted by jehkob

Ex 1/ Mike Peck - Ironman - 27 years old
Scouting Reports
Injury History

Ex 2/ Lucas Reppond - no arm injuries - 27 years old
Scouting Reports
Injury History

Ex 3/ Emo Youngs - no injuries - 23 years old
Scouting
Inury History

All in the last week IRL. On the latest patch. TCR is set to default. This is kinda ridiculous.
https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/....php?p=5138849 from this league if that is helpful.

I have been reporting this issue for the past month and have not heard any response from devs. If it is not fixed in the next patch I think I will give up.

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=358058

[OutS|der]

Originally Posted by tktkrtktkr

If it is not fixed in the next patch I think I will give up.

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=358058

Don't stop posting. You have the data to back up your claims so keep bring up your issues. They may not always respond but they are aware of it.

[aks62]

Originally Posted by OutS|der

Don't stop posting. You have the data to back up your claims so keep bring up your issues. They may not always respond but they are aware of it.

Velo declines seem like they're on the rise once again.

[mbtalontsi]

I am also seeing these unexplained velocity dips.

[Lordofbrewtown]

I am still seeing the AI make strange defensive default lineups even with the next hot fix/91 patch.

Example: chooses to DH a 1B who previously won the gold glove (70 defense rating), and is playing a guy who is primarily a LF (1B rating 30) at 1B