Question about promoting players

[Jasper70]

I have a MiLB pitcher that is 22 and pitching at AA Hartford for his second year at that level. He is pitching maybe 2 levels above his age level. He has pitched well, 14-10, 2.7 WAR yet his scouting reports have steadily fallen to the infamous 35/35.

For those in the know, is this a case of promoting to fast, or not promoting fast enough?

[kidd_05_u2]

Originally Posted by Jasper70

For those in the know, is this a case of promoting to fast, or not promoting fast enough?

Neither. According to your latest scouting report and his performance, he is a pitcher fairly advanced for his age, but without potential to become more than a fifth starter. This is normal, and fits with the real life evaluation of Mason Albright, who is not considered a top 15 prospect for the Rockies.

In my opinion, you only promote too fast when the player struggles so much at his level that his morale tanks. Similarly, you are only promoting too slowly if the player is unhappy about his role on the team, but this is rare unless it's a player expecting the jump to the majors.

The 35 OVR rating is probably selling his ability short tbh. It's always better to form your evaluation by looking at the component ratings, not the OVR.

[Jasper70]

Originally Posted by kidd_05_u2

Neither. According to your latest scouting report and his performance, he is a pitcher fairly advanced for his age, but without potential to become more than a fifth starter. This is normal, and fits with the real life evaluation of Mason Albright, who is not considered a top 15 prospect for the Rockies.

In my opinion, you only promote too fast when the player struggles so much at his level that his morale tanks. Similarly, you are only promoting too slowly if the player is unhappy about his role on the team, but this is rare unless it's a player expecting the jump to the majors.

The 35 OVR rating is probably selling his ability short tbh. It's always better to form your evaluation by looking at the component ratings, not the OVR.

Thanks for the reply. Excellent explanation

[mytreds]

I use FIP for assessing minors pitchers. If a kid has good FIP, I’ll move him up. Also you need to see if there’s space for him in the next level. I’m not going to promote him just so he can be not used regularly. IMO this is a case of a mediocre minor leaguer that will be used to fill your roster and maybe used as trade bait later.

[Sweed]

I like FIP too but also WAR. Since you don't show FIP we'll have to use WAR. Your guy put up decent WAR at A and 2 seasons at AA. The A+ WAR isn't as good but the sample size is small. IMHO I don't think his trouble is being promoted to quickly.


Base on his card he looks like AAA is his ceiling IMHO. The 35 overall is troubling but that is only a quick dirty guide in my evaluation and wouldn't be a deciding factor on my final evaluation. What I don't like is he's a flyball P that is below avg on HRA and Movement. His HRA/9 stats are ugly and something I wouldn't want on my team. If he could improve one of these, or better both, to 50 in individual development or the development school he could end up in The Show.

One thing I do is use the "ratings relative to" menu a lot. Put that on AA and AAA to get a view of how your scouts think he will fare at each level. I do this with all of the minor leaguers in my organization to get an idea of what the scouts think their ceiling is. The easy way to do this is on your team's organization page by using the "relative to" option as the top of the screen. In a few seconds you can see how every player is rated at every level. Any potential below 40 is a sign that he isn't going to play in that league and his ceiling is the league below that. But it is only a sign as I still look at stat output and the players actual skills.