Aaaaah! Illegal Operation Error

Ksyrup · 03-02-2002, 08:47 AM

I just simmed through 14 perfect seasons, and in 2016, after I finished signing scouts/coaches, I set the game to auto-sign free agents like I always do, and in the middle of it - Illegal Operation Error! When I restarted the game, it was back to before scouts/coaches signing, but the screen showed 6/5 days and I knew I was in trouble. And I am in trouble - I am unable to move through this phase to get to the free agent signing. It just keeps adding days, or doing nothing.

I had this exact problem with OOTP3, except I would get IO errors in the middle of proceeding from one season to the next. I can't believe it's happening again!

I have a PIII 633 or 667 (can't remember which), with 384 MB memory. I had everything closed except the game (in fact, I had just signed off and closed my browser 5 minutes before), and my system resources now shows 51%.

Does anyone have a clue as to what is going on with my computer?! Is there any way to save this game?

Killebrew · 03-02-2002, 09:45 AM

As a last resort you can always reset the game (league setup screen), but be aware that depending on what area of the season you are in the game may skip some things (like the rest of the coach hiring period). Other than that I'd just try to start up the game a few times and maybe manually go through each signing day if the game allows you.

The 'proceed to next year' process and the auto-sign coaches/amateurs/free agents are the times the game seems to do the most intense number crunching. If you have many background apps on during these processes, especially high resource apps like Winamp, then the risk of a freeze is greater. I have a lowend machine (333 Celeron 96 MB RAM) so I will only have low resource background apps on (like multiple browsers etc) and I never get crashes, so having a very powerful a system is almost a disadvantage in cases like this. Good luck Ksyrup and let us know if any of that helped.

Jason Moyer · 03-02-2002, 09:58 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Ksyrup:
<strong>I have a PIII 633 or 667 (can't remember which), with 384 MB memory. I had everything closed except the game (in fact, I had just signed off and closed my browser 5 minutes before), and my system resources now shows 51%.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Do you have any TSR programs loading at boot-time? Assuming it's not a problem with a device or a device driver, I'd guess that something is running in the background.

Unfortunately, Windows errors were designed to be intentionally vague so an IO could be caused by anything from leaking memory to having too many devices on a finicky IDE controller to a bad video driver to Bill Gates personally writing a backdoor in ActiveX, accessing your PC, and messing with you.

I'm guessing that you've reformatted and reinstalled Windows and OOTP3 still gave you IO errors?

Also, if you could click on 'details' and copy/paste the exact error message, the developer may find it useful.

Jason

[ March 02, 2002: Message edited by: Jason Moyer ]</p>

Glen · 03-02-2002, 10:07 AM

Which OS are you running?

It would have to be one of the 9X ones if you have system resources available.

I've yet to run into one of these problems using either 2000 or XP.

But, IO, fatal exception and Kernel errors seemed to dog me while in 95/98.

Just a suggestion.

Glen

03-02-2002, 08:47 AM	#1
Ksyrup Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 413	Aaaaah! Illegal Operation Error I just simmed through 14 perfect seasons, and in 2016, after I finished signing scouts/coaches, I set the game to auto-sign free agents like I always do, and in the middle of it - Illegal Operation Error! When I restarted the game, it was back to before scouts/coaches signing, but the screen showed 6/5 days and I knew I was in trouble. And I am in trouble - I am unable to move through this phase to get to the free agent signing. It just keeps adding days, or doing nothing. I had this exact problem with OOTP3, except I would get IO errors in the middle of proceeding from one season to the next. I can't believe it's happening again! I have a PIII 633 or 667 (can't remember which), with 384 MB memory. I had everything closed except the game (in fact, I had just signed off and closed my browser 5 minutes before), and my system resources now shows 51%. Does anyone have a clue as to what is going on with my computer?! Is there any way to save this game?

03-02-2002, 09:45 AM	#2
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	As a last resort you can always reset the game (league setup screen), but be aware that depending on what area of the season you are in the game may skip some things (like the rest of the coach hiring period). Other than that I'd just try to start up the game a few times and maybe manually go through each signing day if the game allows you. The 'proceed to next year' process and the auto-sign coaches/amateurs/free agents are the times the game seems to do the most intense number crunching. If you have many background apps on during these processes, especially high resource apps like Winamp, then the risk of a freeze is greater. I have a lowend machine (333 Celeron 96 MB RAM) so I will only have low resource background apps on (like multiple browsers etc) and I never get crashes, so having a very powerful a system is almost a disadvantage in cases like this. Good luck Ksyrup and let us know if any of that helped. __________________ FOBL Capital City Metropolitans CDL Minnesota Twins

03-02-2002, 09:58 AM	#3
Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,067	[quote]Originally posted by Ksyrup: <strong>I have a PIII 633 or 667 (can't remember which), with 384 MB memory. I had everything closed except the game (in fact, I had just signed off and closed my browser 5 minutes before), and my system resources now shows 51%.</strong><hr></blockquote> Do you have any TSR programs loading at boot-time? Assuming it's not a problem with a device or a device driver, I'd guess that something is running in the background. Unfortunately, Windows errors were designed to be intentionally vague so an IO could be caused by anything from leaking memory to having too many devices on a finicky IDE controller to a bad video driver to Bill Gates personally writing a backdoor in ActiveX, accessing your PC, and messing with you. I'm guessing that you've reformatted and reinstalled Windows and OOTP3 still gave you IO errors? Also, if you could click on 'details' and copy/paste the exact error message, the developer may find it useful. Jason [ March 02, 2002: Message edited by: Jason Moyer ]</p> __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech

03-02-2002, 10:07 AM	#4
Glen Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 153	Which OS are you running? It would have to be one of the 9X ones if you have system resources available. I've yet to run into one of these problems using either 2000 or XP. But, IO, fatal exception and Kernel errors seemed to dog me while in 95/98. Just a suggestion. Glen __________________ Colorado Rockies - DBLC