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Old 08-25-2024, 11:26 AM   #1
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The league history could be improved a lot with one straightforward change

Please allow us to specify the starting year for record-keeping, even if it is not the first year of the league. Even if this just applied to single-season leaderboards (as opposed to career total), it would be a huge improvement since the biggest problem with the historical leaderboards is all of the junk "records" from the 1870s and 1880s. I mean, the rules of the game were significantly different back then.

As someone who grew up in the 1970s, I remember that the cutoff for single-season records was 1900 (i.e. excluding "19th century baseball"). Personally, I would set the cut-off to 1893 since that is when modern rules started but it would be nice if it were user-settable in the League Settings somewhere.

Below are my all-time single season strikeout leaders. It's ridiculous. And the single-season leader in batting average (not shown) is some rando named Levi Meyerle who batted .492 (haha, c'mon) in 26 games in 1871. 26 games!

Will all due respect to 19th century baseball, please figure out a way to let us filter out the guys who pitched when the mound was 45' away, walks required 3 balls, and batters could request a high or low pitch.
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Old 08-25-2024, 03:50 PM   #2
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Please allow us to specify the starting year for record-keeping, even if it is not the first year of the league. Even if this just applied to single-season leaderboards (as opposed to career total), it would be a huge improvement since the biggest problem with the historical leaderboards is all of the junk "records" from the 1870s and 1880s. I mean, the rules of the game were significantly different back then.

As someone who grew up in the 1970s, I remember that the cutoff for single-season records was 1900 (i.e. excluding "19th century baseball"). Personally, I would set the cut-off to 1893 since that is when modern rules started but it would be nice if it were user-settable in the League Settings somewhere.

Below are my all-time single season strikeout leaders. It's ridiculous. And the single-season leader in batting average (not shown) is some rando named Levi Meyerle who batted .492 (haha, c'mon) in 26 games in 1871. 26 games!

Will all due respect to 19th century baseball, please figure out a way to let us filter out the guys who pitched when the mound was 45' away, walks required 3 balls, and batters could request a high or low pitch.
I concur. I did a fictional league once, started in 1871. The records they produced in the 19th century won’t ever be eclipsed and takes a bit of the fun away from watching milestone chasers in the modern period.
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Old 08-25-2024, 09:03 PM   #3
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I concur. I did a fictional league once, started in 1871. The records they produced in the 19th century won’t ever be eclipsed and takes a bit of the fun away from watching milestone chasers in the modern period.
I wholeheartedly agree, esp. since the 19th c. players are tagged to AL franchises so a bunch of 19th c. players with no real life Sox affiliation clog the Red Sox record books. This is the result of a game band-aid to get that century to work but at the cost of someone playing and caring about the actual records of a team that one is helming.

All it would take (conceptually) is a drop down next to the "Import League History" toggle with a "from XXXX forward" with XXX being the year to go back to. That way, one could use any year one wanted to, 1893, 1901, 1961, ... whatever.
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Old 08-25-2024, 09:50 PM   #4
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or the could keep them and just allow a filter in reporting for whatever range people want. but there is no desire to improve reporting, analytics in the game
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Old 08-25-2024, 10:10 PM   #5
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or the could keep them and just allow a filter in reporting for whatever range people want. but there is no desire to improve reporting, analytics in the game
Where's the time? It's August and 25 is still broken.
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Old 08-26-2024, 07:16 AM   #6
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Where's the time? It's August and 25 is still broken.
It's not about what's broken or not broken. There is no perfect game so something will always be broken in someone's perspective. It's all about prioritizing which things are the most important things to work on with the limited amount of developer time.

What is important? It's probably stuff in sort of this order:

1) Game-breaking bugs, of course (crashes are a good example)

2) Problems in newly-released features or created by newly-released features

3) Degenerative gameplay caused by existing features that could be improved (the attendance exploit bug is a good example of this)

4) Other annoyances that don't fall into the first three categories but that a lot of players would like to see fixed

The history thing is absolutely just an annoyance, so it's honestly a low priority compared to other types of bugs. But if it annoys a lot of players, then it becomes a higher priority. So people chiming into this thread and saying, "yeah, this really bugs me" is honestly good feedback for the devs to understand if this is really a player concern.

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Old 08-26-2024, 08:03 AM   #7
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Please allow us to specify the starting year for record-keeping, even if it is not the first year of the league. Even if this just applied to single-season leaderboards (as opposed to career total), it would be a huge improvement since the biggest problem with the historical leaderboards is all of the junk "records" from the 1870s and 1880s. I mean, the rules of the game were significantly different back then.

As someone who grew up in the 1970s, I remember that the cutoff for single-season records was 1900 (i.e. excluding "19th century baseball"). Personally, I would set the cut-off to 1893 since that is when modern rules started but it would be nice if it were user-settable in the League Settings somewhere.

Below are my all-time single season strikeout leaders. It's ridiculous. And the single-season leader in batting average (not shown) is some rando named Levi Meyerle who batted .492 (haha, c'mon) in 26 games in 1871. 26 games!

Will all due respect to 19th century baseball, please figure out a way to let us filter out the guys who pitched when the mound was 45' away, walks required 3 balls, and batters could request a high or low pitch.
I would absolutely love this option. I thought I was alone in not wanting the pre-1900 hundred stuff in my leagues. Did you post this in the suggestions for future versions forum? Great suggestion.
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They are looking at adding the ability to edit history. Seems to be harder to implement then expected.

Hopefully one day we'll be able to edit and set our own history like we can in FM
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They are looking at adding the ability to edit history. Seems to be harder to implement then expected.

Hopefully one day we'll be able to edit and set our own history like we can in FM

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "edit history" ?
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I would like to have the start date when I started my league. Or a filter. I started with the 2019 season currently in 2049.
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Old 08-29-2024, 12:15 AM   #11
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Please allow us to specify the starting year for record-keeping, even if it is not the first year of the league. Even if this just applied to single-season leaderboards (as opposed to career total), it would be a huge improvement since the biggest problem with the historical leaderboards is all of the junk "records" from the 1870s and 1880s. I mean, the rules of the game were significantly different back then.

As someone who grew up in the 1970s, I remember that the cutoff for single-season records was 1900 (i.e. excluding "19th century baseball"). Personally, I would set the cut-off to 1893 since that is when modern rules started but it would be nice if it were user-settable in the League Settings somewhere.

Below are my all-time single season strikeout leaders. It's ridiculous. And the single-season leader in batting average (not shown) is some rando named Levi Meyerle who batted .492 (haha, c'mon) in 26 games in 1871. 26 games!

Will all due respect to 19th century baseball, please figure out a way to let us filter out the guys who pitched when the mound was 45' away, walks required 3 balls, and batters could request a high or low pitch.
The great Levi Meyerle is no rando. He is one of the greatest hitters of his generation and one of the WORST fielders off all-time.
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Old 08-29-2024, 06:56 AM   #12
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The great Levi Meyerle is no rando. He is one of the greatest hitters of his generation and one of the WORST fielders off all-time.
Not sure if this is sarcasm or not, but Meyerle was a player who led the league in hitting in his rookie year while setting personal career highs that he would never match again. That implies a lot more about the level of competition in the league that year than about Meyerle.

The fact that it was only a 26-game season also adds a lot of variability to everything. That's literally shorter than Spring Training.
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Old 08-31-2024, 09:32 AM   #13
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I always start my replays from the 1871 or 1876 but i would also like to be able to search records from a chosen time frame.
Like 1871-1899, 1900-2024, or say to be able to compare 1930s to the 1990s.
I don't want to have to erase all records from 1876 to start fresh in 1903.
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That looks like a real bug. David Letterman always gives Top 10 lists, not Top 5.
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That looks like a real bug. David Letterman always gives Top 10 lists, not Top 5.
He's old now, so he's cutting back.
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Wait.........David Letterman plays OOTP? by the way what ever happen to Curt Schilling?
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Can you elaborate on what you mean by "edit history" ?
I want to be able to edit all forms of history. IE add full history to the KBO like we have for the MLB.
To be able to go in and erase years or stats. Add awards to players history tab.
Ability to populate the player history tab when importing a template. being able to edit awards.

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I want to be able to edit all forms of history. IE add full history to the KBO like we have for the MLB.
To be able to go in and erase years or stats. Add awards to players history tab.
Ability to populate the player history tab when importing a template. being able to edit awards.

Thanks for clarifying. That is a lot of changes. Are they really looking into doing all of that.
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Thanks for clarifying. That is a lot of changes. Are they really looking into doing all of that.
I'm hoping at some point. Even if it's the ability to edit the .odb files, or create and import our own.

I'm assuming it's something that can be done. The possibilities to editing history are endless.
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