General Baseball Image Discussion

[Cusick]

Originally Posted by rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com

Here is an interesting but possibility. In June 1958 Billy Williams was traded to Chicago White Sox in an unknown Transaction. I believe I have figured out that transaction. John Procopio was acquired from White Sox June 29, 1968. So Procopio could have been that unknown Transaction

I don't think the dates line up. As you point out, Procopio's Sporting News contract card says he was released to the White Sox on June 29, 1968. The Honolulu Advertiser newspaper of July 11, 1968 reported that the Hawaiian Islanders (AAA affiliate of the White Sox) obtained the contract of veteran outfielder Billy Williams from the Seattle Angels the previous night. Those transactions were separated by almost two weeks.

[rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com]

Originally Posted by Cusick

I don't think the dates line up. As you point out, Procopio's Sporting News contract card says he was released to the White Sox on June 29, 1968. The Honolulu Advertiser newspaper of July 11, 1968 reported that the Hawaiian Islanders (AAA affiliate of the White Sox) obtained the contract of veteran outfielder Billy Williams from the Seattle Angels the previous night. Those transactions were separated by almost two weeks.

Thank you. Was kind of going by Baseball -Reference. Says traded in June of 68. W researching unknown Transactions.

[prewinter]

Originally Posted by rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com

Here is an interesting but possibility. In June 1958 Billy Williams was traded to Chicago White Sox in an unknown Transaction. I believe I have figured out that transaction. John Procopio was acquired from White Sox June 29, 1968. So Procopio could have been that unknown Transaction

Jim Procopio was purchased from the Cardinals to fill in when one of their catchers was called to service.

[rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com]

Originally Posted by prewinter

Jim Procopio was purchased from the Cardinals to fill in when one of their catchers was called to service.

Thank you.

[rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com]

Any known info on The Pilots Acquired Williams from the Cleveland Indians in early 1968?

[Cusick]

Originally Posted by rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com

Any known info on The Pilots Acquired Williams from the Cleveland Indians in early 1968?

Very difficult to pin down. First, the Seattle team was referred to by the newspapers as the Seattle Angels, not the Pilots. Second, in 1968, the Seattle Angels had two outfielders named Williams -- Billy and Walt "No Neck," so trying to figure this out using box scores only doesn't work. And, HOFer Billy Williams was also playing that year, so searching on "Billy Williams" doesn't narrow things down much. What I did find out was that your Billy Williams was still playing for the Portland Beavers (a Cleveland Indians affiliate) on April 4 and he played for the Seattle Angels on May 17. So the transaction happened some time within that window.

With a little more persistence, I found the answer. As the newspaper clipping below from genealogybank.com shows, Billy Williams was acquired by the Seattle Angels on April 11. As part of that transaction, Sam Parrilla's contract went to the Portland Beavers, but they in turn sent him to Waterbury.

[rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com]

Originally Posted by Cusick

Very difficult to pin down. First, the Seattle team was referred to by the newspapers as the Seattle Angels, not the Pilots. Second, in 1968, the Seattle Angels had two outfielders named Williams -- Billy and Walt "No Neck," so trying to figure this out using box scores only doesn't work. And, HOFer Billy Williams was also playing that year, so searching on "Billy Williams" doesn't narrow things down much. What I did find out was that your Billy Williams was still playing for the Portland Beavers (a Cleveland Indians affiliate) on April 4 and he played for the Seattle Angels on May 17. So the transaction happened some time within that window.

With a little more persistence, I found the answer. As the newspaper clipping below from genealogybank.com shows, Billy Williams was acquired by the Seattle Angels on April 11. As part of that transaction, Sam Parrilla's contract went to the Portland Beavers, but they in turn sent him to Waterbury.

Thank You.

[rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com]

Anyone with info on Merritt Ranew from New York Yankees to Seattle Pilots unknown Transaction & Billy Williams 1969 Unknown Transaction From Chicago White Sox to The Pilots? Thank you in advance

[dadof10]

Downloaded the picture pack, and the game won't recognize JP Crawford. The file is in the "Players" folder, along with the rest, but it won't show JP. I tried renaming it "JP" (no spaces) "J_P" (like all the "A_J's") and J.P. (both with and without spaces). No luck. Anyone have any suggestions? Can you see JP in your game?

While I'm at it, thanks for all the work you put in gathering these awesome photos and making them available. You guys rock!

[LansdowneSt]

Are photos like facegens in that you can also use their Historical Minors ID to tag it to them when naming the file? (Helps keeping this John Smith from that John Smith too)

[rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com]

Are there any known photos of these 2 Pilots/Brewers scouts. Cluster Williams and Jim Schafer? Thank you in advance.

[Cusick]

Originally Posted by rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com

Are there any known photos of these 2 Pilots/Brewers scouts. Cluster Williams and Jim Schafer? Thank you in advance.

His name was Bill "Cluster" Williams. The following photo shows him in his hometown of Poplar Bluff, Missouri. It's from a newspaper of Jan. 3, 1968.

[Cusick]

This is a guess that I've found a photo of the right guy. Here's my logic. Cluster Williams and Jim Schafer participated in several tryout camps for the Pilots in Missouri and Illinois in 1969. One of those was in Carbondale, Illinois. This photo is a 1964 wedding pic of a Jim Schafer from Marion, Illinois, which is about 20 miles from Carbondale. In 1968, Jim Schafer was the manager of a baseball team in Marion. That's the kind of occupation that would make him an ideal candidate to be a scout.

[Pinetarpress]

JimSchafer was a longtime Royals scout and also was one of the coaches when I went to Dodgertown for the Mickey Owen baseball camps....Have to believe he is in one of the Royals yearbooks from the 80s.....

[Cusick]

Originally Posted by Pinetarpress

JimSchafer was a longtime Royals scout and also was one of the coaches when I went to Dodgertown for the Mickey Owen baseball camps....Have to believe he is in one of the Royals yearbooks from the 80s.....

I think you are referring to Jim Schaffer with two f's (see link below). The request was for a different guy.

https://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/S/Pschaj104.htm

[rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com]

Originally Posted by Cusick

His name was Bill "Cluster" Williams. The following photo shows him in his hometown of Poplar Bluff, Missouri. It's from a newspaper of Jan. 3, 1968.

Thank You. Just seen have not been on here in awhile
. Thank You so much

[rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com]

Originally Posted by Cusick

This is a guess that I've found a photo of the right guy. Here's my logic. Cluster Williams and Jim Schafer participated in several tryout camps for the Pilots in Missouri and Illinois in 1969. One of those was in Carbondale, Illinois. This photo is a 1964 wedding pic of a Jim Schafer from Marion, Illinois, which is about 20 miles from Carbondale. In 1968, Jim Schafer was the manager of a baseball team in Marion. That's the kind of occupation that would make him an ideal candidate to be a scout.

Thank You. Just seen

[rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com]

Originally Posted by Pinetarpress

JimSchafer was a longtime Royals scout and also was one of the coaches when I went to Dodgertown for the Mickey Owen baseball camps....Have to believe he is in one of the Royals yearbooks from the 80s.....

Thank You

[rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com]

Any known photos of Seattle Pilots groundskeeper Ted Fischer or Fisher? Thank You in advance

[Cusick]

Originally Posted by rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com

Any known photos of Seattle Pilots groundskeeper Ted Fischer or Fisher? Thank You in advance

This photo shows Ted Fisher at age 71 as a run-down Sicks Stadium celebrated its 40th birthday. The photo is from the Spokane (WA) Spokesman Review of June 17, 1978.