Why do minor leaguers that are put on the 60-day IL accruing MLB service time?

JerseyPirate · 12-07-2023, 01:57 PM

This has been an annoyance for awhile. Is that a glitch or is that real? I can't imagine someone not even on the 40-man roster actually earns service time due to an injury.

Rain King · 12-07-2023, 02:05 PM

Why would you put a minor leaguer on the 60-day IL? That is only for players who are on the 40-man (as it clears up that 40-man spot).

You can leave long-term injured guys on the regular minor league IL.

JerseyPirate · 12-07-2023, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain King

Why would you put a minor leaguer on the 60-day IL? That is only for players who are on the 40-man (as it clears up that 40-man spot).

You can leave long-term injured guys on the regular minor league IL.

Exactly, it was done by the AI running the minor leagues. I should be in control of that instead of being done by AI.

Rain King · 12-07-2023, 03:25 PM

Are you sure it wasn't a minor league who was already on the 40-man when they were injured?

If the AI is placing a non-40 man player on the 60-man IL you should post those details in the Bug forum.

Service time accruing on the 60 man IL is supposed to happen.

JerseyPirate · 12-07-2023, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain King

Are you sure it wasn't a minor league who was already on the 40-man when they were injured?

If the AI is placing a non-40 man player on the 60-man IL you should post those details in the Bug forum.

Service time accruing on the 60 man IL is supposed to happen.

They were on the 40-man but in AAA. They should have been placed on the 7-day minor league IL but AI put them on the ML 60-day so now they will accrue a year of service time for no reason. That decision should be left to me to choose to move someone to the 60-day if I need a spot on the 40 man.

Rain King · 12-07-2023, 03:47 PM

It might depend on your settings? Do you allow the AI to put players on the IL in general?

I guess there could be a distinction between allowing the AI to put someone on the regular IL and the 60-day IL.

But, if this bothers you, for the time being it is probably best to not allow the AI to put players on the IL at all.

Probably borderline whether to call that a bug...but again, since the player is on the 60-Day IL they should be accruing service time which was the original topic of the thread.

Bluenoser · 12-07-2023, 04:27 PM

On your Manager Options Tab, left side bottom options. Do you have the box checked to be notified of minor league injuries?

Le Grande Orange · 12-07-2023, 06:05 PM

There is a 60-day minor league DL in real life. It operates similarly to the major league version in that a player placed on it no longer counts against the minor league club's reserve limit nor its active limit.

Brad K · 12-07-2023, 08:16 PM

I've noticed something similar to this. Memory is that if a non 40 man player is injured in ST and I move him to the 60 day he accrues MLB time. Try to move him to AAA and OOTP says player is injured put him on the injured list.

It's been a while since this happened so this may not be 100% accurate. Also my saves stay on the version where they started so this is a 23 observation.

Matt Arnold · 12-07-2023, 08:34 PM

If they're on the 60 day list it's to remove them from the 40 man. They could stay on the minor league list, but then they'd continue taking up a roster spot on the 40-man roster.

PSUColonel · 12-07-2023, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyPirate

Exactly, it was done by the AI running the minor leagues. I should be in control of that instead of being done by AI.

I am totally against the AI being in control of the IL list when you have lineups & rotations set to your staff.

JerseyPirate · 12-07-2023, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

If they're on the 60 day list it's to remove them from the 40 man. They could stay on the minor league list, but then they'd continue taking up a roster spot on the 40-man roster.

AI shouldn't automatically move the player to the 60 day. If I need a spot on the 40 man, then I can move them but it shouldn't be automatic. I usually have a player every year or two that this happens to and not only do I lose that year of major league service time, it also counts as 1 of their 3 years of options. Makes no sense.

Matt Arnold · 12-07-2023, 11:25 PM

Yeah, they shouldn't be doing that unless if you have delegated the full functionality. We can correct that for the future.

Rain King · 12-07-2023, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyPirate

I usually have a player every year or two that this happens to and not only do I lose that year of major league service time, it also counts as 1 of their 3 years of options. Makes no sense.

The moment the player is simultaneously on the 40-man and in your minor leagues they are using an option year. That part has nothing to do with them being on the 60-day IL.

The service time is obviously not ideal when you have the 40-man spot to spare so glad to hear they are looking to fix this scenario. Thanks Matt!

KRSW · 12-08-2023, 10:51 AM

In my experience, when the 40-men roster is full, the AI puts injured minor leaguers in the 60-days IL, which can be avoided by not filling the 40-men roster completely.

PSUColonel · 12-08-2023, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KRSW

In my experience, when the 40-men roster is full, the AI puts injured minor leaguers in the 60-days IL, which can be avoided by not filling the 40-men roster completely.

Yes, but that is not a good solution. It needs to be fixed.

12-07-2023, 01:57 PM	#1
JerseyPirate Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 172	Why do minor leaguers that are put on the 60-day IL accruing MLB service time? This has been an annoyance for awhile. Is that a glitch or is that real? I can't imagine someone not even on the 40-man roster actually earns service time due to an injury.

12-07-2023, 02:05 PM	#2
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,072 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Why would you put a minor leaguer on the 60-day IL? That is only for players who are on the 40-man (as it clears up that 40-man spot). You can leave long-term injured guys on the regular minor league IL. Last edited by Rain King; 12-07-2023 at 02:07 PM.

12-07-2023, 03:25 PM	#4
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,072 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Are you sure it wasn't a minor league who was already on the 40-man when they were injured? If the AI is placing a non-40 man player on the 60-man IL you should post those details in the Bug forum. Service time accruing on the 60 man IL is supposed to happen. Last edited by Rain King; 12-07-2023 at 03:27 PM.

12-07-2023, 08:16 PM	#9
Brad K Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,658 Infractions: 0/2 (3)	I've noticed something similar to this. Memory is that if a non 40 man player is injured in ST and I move him to the 60 day he accrues MLB time. Try to move him to AAA and OOTP says player is injured put him on the injured list. It's been a while since this happened so this may not be 100% accurate. Also my saves stay on the version where they started so this is a 23 observation. __________________ . Pirates Play Moneyball 1951-2008 Ratings and League Totals Modifiers A new pre-calc file! (Applause!) Settings and Auto-calc Popular Opinions and Undisputable Facts The cover up is usually more damaging than the original act.

12-07-2023, 03:47 PM	#6
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,072 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	It might depend on your settings? Do you allow the AI to put players on the IL in general? I guess there could be a distinction between allowing the AI to put someone on the regular IL and the 60-day IL. But, if this bothers you, for the time being it is probably best to not allow the AI to put players on the IL at all. Probably borderline whether to call that a bug...but again, since the player is on the 60-Day IL they should be accruing service time which was the original topic of the thread.

12-07-2023, 04:27 PM	#7
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,138	On your Manager Options Tab, left side bottom options. Do you have the box checked to be notified of minor league injuries?

12-07-2023, 06:05 PM	#8
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,644	There is a 60-day minor league DL in real life. It operates similarly to the major league version in that a player placed on it no longer counts against the minor league club's reserve limit nor its active limit.

12-07-2023, 08:34 PM	#10
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,719	If they're on the 60 day list it's to remove them from the 40 man. They could stay on the minor league list, but then they'd continue taking up a roster spot on the 40-man roster.

12-07-2023, 11:25 PM	#13
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,719	Yeah, they shouldn't be doing that unless if you have delegated the full functionality. We can correct that for the future.

12-08-2023, 10:51 AM	#15
KRSW Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2023 Posts: 56	In my experience, when the 40-men roster is full, the AI puts injured minor leaguers in the 60-days IL, which can be avoided by not filling the 40-men roster completely.