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Old 07-15-2023, 10:20 PM   #1
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Spot Starters

Question: I've never specifically run a simulation to check this; but I haven't really ever seen the AI use a spot starter - it seems to just skip to the next available/highest rested starter in the rotation. It's pretty easy to spot just by looking at a team's injuries and # of games started as the rotation lines up. I have yet to see a reliever assigned a 'spot starter' secondary role in the bullpen actually get a start.

I generally play as commissioner/GM for all teams, and let the manager run staff (with GM override option).

Has anyone else specifically looked for this or noticed it?
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Old 07-15-2023, 10:45 PM   #2
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I saw the ai use spot starters recently. Once it happened because of doubleheaders. I also saw the ai use spot starters when I set the global option for strict rotations, which sometimes makes it so that a tired pitcher is due to start and the ai swaps him out.
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Old 07-15-2023, 11:07 PM   #3
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Question: I've never specifically run a simulation to check this; but I haven't really ever seen the AI use a spot starter - it seems to just skip to the next available/highest rested starter in the rotation. It's pretty easy to spot just by looking at a team's injuries and # of games started as the rotation lines up. I have yet to see a reliever assigned a 'spot starter' secondary role in the bullpen actually get a start.

I generally play as commissioner/GM for all teams, and let the manager run staff (with GM override option).

Has anyone else specifically looked for this or noticed it?
I've seen it happen.
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Old 07-16-2023, 09:49 AM   #4
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A lot of it has to do with your schedule and fatigue. For example in my league I have rotation set at 5, start highest rested. If team has a game 5 days in a roll, then all 5 starters will start. If the team has a game 4 days in a roll then an off day, then the 5th starter (spot starter?) will be skipped and the #1 starter will start the next series in this example.
I don’t play with injuries but I think it wold be nice to identify someone as as a spot starter in that case.
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Old 07-16-2023, 01:41 PM   #5
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The AI will use a spot starter if one is set and all the pitchers in the rotation are injured/tired/suspended. It pretty much only seems to come up with double headers or minor injuries.
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Old 07-16-2023, 09:27 PM   #6
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Question: I've never specifically run a simulation to check this; but I haven't really ever seen the AI use a spot starter - it seems to just skip to the next available/highest rested starter in the rotation. It's pretty easy to spot just by looking at a team's injuries and # of games started as the rotation lines up. I have yet to see a reliever assigned a 'spot starter' secondary role in the bullpen actually get a start.

I generally play as commissioner/GM for all teams, and let the manager run staff (with GM override option).

Has anyone else specifically looked for this or noticed it?
It doesn't work so well because of stamina.
Strat uses stamina for Starter and Reliever
There really is no 'spot starter' or long reliever for the matter.

A good reliver for 40 stamina will be moved to starting rotation.

You just need to start up a year, say 1974 and see what happens if you don't use real lineups.

And you will never get close to getting all the games innings relievers used to pitch in the 70s. Fiddle with all the settings. Sim game by game and pick a couple teams AI is managing. It is only then you see how the rotation changes.
Override some stamina changes as commish
Try Setting a 5th starter.
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Old 07-19-2023, 01:51 PM   #7
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If a SP is fully rested or available (not injured/under suspension) the manager will go through the rotation and not use spot starters. Spot starters are only used in lieu of a pitcher in the rotation when none are available to start. This means that unless your rotation is all tired or injured, no spot starters are used. In the modern game, this pretty much only leaves double headers or freak occurences since SP aren't usually used in the bullpen.

The AI logic will try to use a SP with the secondary role of Emergency SP to spot start. If none are available, it will use any reliever that it sees fit and that is available.

You can't really have a guy who isn't in the rotation but who starts once in a while to give guys a breather or to face soft competition without manually inserting him and giving him the spot start. The AI managers will not do this.
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Old 07-19-2023, 02:42 PM   #8
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You can't really have a guy who isn't in the rotation but who starts once in a while to give guys a breather or to face soft competition without manually inserting him and giving him the spot start.

Yeah, this is what I do. When the need for a spot starter is coming up, I put him in the rotation at #6 three days beforehand to ensure he's rested for the start. Then I dump him back in the bullpen.

If there's an extended period where I won't need the #5, I'll dump him in the bullpen as well. You never know when that 22-inning marathon is going to show up on your doorstep.
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Old 07-20-2023, 02:10 PM   #9
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I've seen it on moderate injuries, rainouts and doubleheaders.
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