Frustrated at the missions

JMERCH · 06-22-2023, 03:11 PM

Are you guys gonna do anything team centric this season? These past two years the missions kinda seem like a random smattering of players thrown into a mission that give another random player or just a regular pack, but there’s nothing that builds upon the nostalgia of your team. The Rangers sucked a couple years ago, but having five team centric missions for them and then a Rangers topper at the time kinda played on the pride of being a Rangers fan. There seems to be nothing now that makes me feel nostalgic about players that used to be on my favorite teams, just random things like “hey these guys were short” or “these guys were good in college”. For the build-a-legend, it’s like guys were chosen randomly. The history of baseball has only been celebrated by the Negro League missions, which are important to celebrate, but the history of the mlb has been ignored. Recognizing a guy as short or that a guy is named Paul is not celebrating the history of mlb. It’s like missions are just drawn out of a hat, like there’s no direction for the season, like effort in the missions has been minimal at best. Do something that draws upon nostalgia of the mlb and each team. No one gets nostalgic about people being short, they get nostalgic about seasons that made being a fan fun. Thank you for the free packs today, but give me a mission that isn’t just challenging, but also team centered

Kushiel · 06-22-2023, 05:21 PM

It seems like Missions are now done in a let's hurry and get done with this mission designing stuff atmosphere. Then, we can get back to figuring out some more stuff to dribble into the weekly overpriced, almost worthless Spotlight Packs. After all they are where the real money must be now.

JMERCH · 06-22-2023, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kushiel

It seems like Missions are now done in a let's hurry and get done with this mission designing stuff atmosphere. Then, we can get back to figuring out some more stuff to dribble into the weekly overpriced, almost worthless Spotlight Packs. After all they are where the real money must be now.

It feels like the only way to get the players you want now are by buying packs and getting lucky. Miss the old days with Chris when the game was a passion project for them to design the best product that was built off their passion for baseball, now it feels like a cash grab where I have to buy packs and hope to get lucky.

Zoilupi · 06-23-2023, 04:16 AM

Welcome to OOPTW

LeeD · 06-23-2023, 11:42 PM

The team-centric stuff does seem to be lacking this year and last. OTOH, it's difficult to build a top-tier PT roster if your focus isn't on Yankees or Dodgers or Giants...etc. That's always going to be a problem, especially if your favorite is not one of the original 16. Those franchises have at least 120 years of players to choose from. If you want D-Backs or Rays, it's 25.

HRBaker · 06-24-2023, 12:13 AM

Team-centric and decade-centric would be far more nostalgic.

Example; Mission based on the best 20 players of the 1920s. Completing the missions would get you a 1928 100 Babe Ruth and/or 100 Eppa Rixley. You could have decade missions from 1890 to 2000 and stay away from any Live players.

Team-centric could be 20 all-time best players for the team with one or two 100 cards as rewards.

The you could have "stolen base" missions, Homerun missions, pitchers with most shutouts, pitchers with most strikeouts, etc.

You could have a longest career mission, a most all star games mission, a most world series appearances mission, an MVP missions and Cy Young Award mission, etc, etc.

ALL of these missions would be educational rather than what appears as random collections of players with some minor similarities.

I get it, creating enough missions to complete is tough work, but a bit more "themed" missions would go a long was in keeping it interesting.

Kushiel · 06-24-2023, 12:49 PM

I am old guy. I grew up watching the "Game of the Week" with my Grandfather and Dad. Ol' Diz's stories and anecdotes were a staple of those games.

Nothing against young people. I have grandsons and great grandsons that love the game. I teach them baseball history by giving them the excitement of opening packs from yesteryear at gift times. Then we discuss the players they received. Each of my 3 grandsons received an unopened 1952 TOPPS pack for HS graduation. No, no Mantles were drawn. Maybe one with my Great Grandsons in 10-15 more years.

The problem with Missions is no old guys work on them IMHO. Most younger people have no true love for baseball history beyond their own memories. I blame Dads for that. I believe that is a problem associated with Missions. Of course the biggest problem now with them is corporate greed,

HRBaker · 06-24-2023, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kushiel

I am old guy. I grew up watching the "Game of the Week" with my Grandfather and Dad. Ol' Diz's stories and anecdotes were a staple of those games.

Nothing against young people. I have grandsons and great grandsons that love the game. I teach them baseball history by giving them the excitement of opening packs from yesteryear at gift times. Then we discuss the players they received. Each of my 3 grandsons received an unopened 1952 TOPPS pack for HS graduation. No, no Mantles were drawn. Maybe one with my Great Grandsons in 10-15 more years.

The problem with Missions is no old guys work on them IMHO. Most younger people have no true love for baseball history beyond their own memories. I blame Dads for that. I believe that is a problem associated with Missions. Of course the biggest problem now with them is corporate greed,

Agreed. I collect Conlon Baseball cards printed in the 90s using Charles M. Conlon's photos of Golden Age players from 1904-1941. These cards are truly nostalgic. Add to that my childhood years from 1947 to the 1960s and I can at least give you an overview of most players in the first 60 years of the MLB. Nostalgia is what this sport is about, and to not incorporate it into the missions portion of the game is a grave error.

Kushiel · 06-24-2023, 03:32 PM

The Great Game is a lifetime of memories for all just waiting to be absorbed, discussed, argued and kept for a lifetime. At our house the Hot Stove League never closed, it just became the Shade Tree League in Summer.

This game deserves for the History to be more than a ticket to the all mighty dollar disguised into disjointed missions.

bailey · 06-25-2023, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushiel

The Great Game is a lifetime of memories for all just waiting to be absorbed, discussed, argued and kept for a lifetime. At our house the Hot Stove League never closed, it just became the Shade Tree League in Summer.

This game deserves for the History to be more than a ticket to the all mighty dollar disguised into disjointed missions.

This reminded me of the website "This Great Game" which I had forgotten about for several years now. It's still there and it's still great. Thanks!

Kushiel · 06-25-2023, 12:13 PM

My pleasure! The Great Game is all my Grandfather ever called baseball. He passed in 1975 but I still feel his presence when I watch a game.

ChessSafari · 06-26-2023, 10:57 AM

Please OOTPB make the missions interesting again. And worth chasing.

Mal3607 · 06-26-2023, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushiel

I am old guy. I grew up watching the "Game of the Week" with my Grandfather and Dad. Ol' Diz's stories and anecdotes were a staple of those games.

Not gonna call anyone greedy. BUUUUUT, the Missions could definitely be a lot more fun. I loved the game of the week and This week in baseball! It would be nice if you could complete some of these missions without spending more PP than the reward is worth in some of them.

More classic-era team-centric missions would be fun!

ChessSafari · 06-26-2023, 06:51 PM

This is worth repeating...to me anyway. Hoping to increase the chance that someone responsible for the game revenue stream reads it.

Agree 100% that this year's mission program is disappointing. I remember Kris saying in the past that he had an entire spreadsheet laid out of all the missions for the entire year. And there were 600-800 of them. I'm guessing someone in control thinks that PT Live, PT plus, drops and tourneys (including PT Draft) - which are all positives IMO - obviate the need for a robust mission program.

Not for me they don't. I have put less money into the game this year mainly because I have no meaningful missions to chase.

Honest feedback here.

LeeD · 06-30-2023, 10:44 PM

Gee, lemme buy that Silver Nolan Ryan card for 20,000 points so I can get a Silver Eric Davis. Yawn.

Meanwhile...

No old-timer missions. No future legends missions. With the All-Star game around the corner, neither of these is happening soon if at all.

bdawg · 07-01-2023, 10:45 AM

The missions are very stagnant this year. Most of the build-a-lineup players are awful. Lou Gerig and Jackie Robinson missions are impossible unless you invest a fortune. I'm sure the PT+ players are probably getting extra rewards that keep them playing, but the rest of us are getting bored.

LeeD · 07-01-2023, 06:01 PM

PT+ is a little bit plus, but it's mostly the extra packs from daily rewards. With these, I draw a lot of Iron and Bronze cards from missions that dropped three weeks ago.

edit to add:

The BAL players aren't awful. They're a baseline. My Diamond team has BAL complete plus Negro League 1 complete plus Mookie Betts from Topps Bunt and very little else. They're 81-65 in Diamond this week and made the Diamond playoffs the previous two weeks. Of course, this team would get slaughtered in Perfect League if I managed to get there, but BAL and Negro League being enough to consistently compete at Diamond makes those two series success stories in my book.

screamingpalm · 07-01-2023, 08:40 PM

After a few years of it, I'm a bit tired of the iterations of the same historic cards over and over. Wish they would do more with current events during seasons. Maybe some special cards for players doing really well would make things more interesting and varied each year.

Not sure why they stopped doing player of the month cards and such.

LeeD · 07-02-2023, 07:00 PM

Not tired of the same historic cards, but I'm tired of seeing inferior versions of those players. How many Rickey Hendersons do we need, and why do we need Iron versions of a Hall-of-Famer?

rburgh · 07-02-2023, 09:43 PM

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It would be nice if you could complete some of these missions without spending more PP than the reward is worth in some of them.

That will NEVER happen, except with the live team missions if you start them after a couple of months of live updates so that most of them can be completed with irons and bronzes. The issue is that everyone wants to complete missions that have worthwhile rewards, but the packs don't give out enough cards for everyone to have one of each required card. It's the Law of Supply and Demand.

06-22-2023, 03:11 PM	#1
JMERCH Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 14	Frustrated at the missions Are you guys gonna do anything team centric this season? These past two years the missions kinda seem like a random smattering of players thrown into a mission that give another random player or just a regular pack, but there’s nothing that builds upon the nostalgia of your team. The Rangers sucked a couple years ago, but having five team centric missions for them and then a Rangers topper at the time kinda played on the pride of being a Rangers fan. There seems to be nothing now that makes me feel nostalgic about players that used to be on my favorite teams, just random things like “hey these guys were short” or “these guys were good in college”. For the build-a-legend, it’s like guys were chosen randomly. The history of baseball has only been celebrated by the Negro League missions, which are important to celebrate, but the history of the mlb has been ignored. Recognizing a guy as short or that a guy is named Paul is not celebrating the history of mlb. It’s like missions are just drawn out of a hat, like there’s no direction for the season, like effort in the missions has been minimal at best. Do something that draws upon nostalgia of the mlb and each team. No one gets nostalgic about people being short, they get nostalgic about seasons that made being a fan fun. Thank you for the free packs today, but give me a mission that isn’t just challenging, but also team centered

06-22-2023, 05:21 PM	#2
Kushiel All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas Posts: 1,810	It seems like Missions are now done in a let's hurry and get done with this mission designing stuff atmosphere. Then, we can get back to figuring out some more stuff to dribble into the weekly overpriced, almost worthless Spotlight Packs. After all they are where the real money must be now. __________________ *Favente Deo supero*

06-23-2023, 04:16 AM	#4
Zoilupi Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 12	Welcome to OOPTW __________________

06-24-2023, 12:13 AM	#6
HRBaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,369	Team-centric and decade-centric would be far more nostalgic. Example; Mission based on the best 20 players of the 1920s. Completing the missions would get you a 1928 100 Babe Ruth and/or 100 Eppa Rixley. You could have decade missions from 1890 to 2000 and stay away from any Live players. Team-centric could be 20 all-time best players for the team with one or two 100 cards as rewards. The you could have "stolen base" missions, Homerun missions, pitchers with most shutouts, pitchers with most strikeouts, etc. You could have a longest career mission, a most all star games mission, a most world series appearances mission, an MVP missions and Cy Young Award mission, etc, etc. ALL of these missions would be educational rather than what appears as random collections of players with some minor similarities. I get it, creating enough missions to complete is tough work, but a bit more "themed" missions would go a long was in keeping it interesting. __________________ *HRB*

06-24-2023, 12:49 PM	#7
Kushiel All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas Posts: 1,810	I am old guy. I grew up watching the "Game of the Week" with my Grandfather and Dad. Ol' Diz's stories and anecdotes were a staple of those games. Nothing against young people. I have grandsons and great grandsons that love the game. I teach them baseball history by giving them the excitement of opening packs from yesteryear at gift times. Then we discuss the players they received. Each of my 3 grandsons received an unopened 1952 TOPPS pack for HS graduation. No, no Mantles were drawn. Maybe one with my Great Grandsons in 10-15 more years. The problem with Missions is no old guys work on them IMHO. Most younger people have no true love for baseball history beyond their own memories. I blame Dads for that. I believe that is a problem associated with Missions. Of course the biggest problem now with them is corporate greed, __________________ *Favente Deo supero*

06-23-2023, 11:42 PM	#5
LeeD All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 821	The team-centric stuff does seem to be lacking this year and last. OTOH, it's difficult to build a top-tier PT roster if your focus isn't on Yankees or Dodgers or Giants...etc. That's always going to be a problem, especially if your favorite is not one of the original 16. Those franchises have at least 120 years of players to choose from. If you want D-Backs or Rays, it's 25.

06-24-2023, 03:32 PM	#9
Kushiel All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas Posts: 1,810	The Great Game is a lifetime of memories for all just waiting to be absorbed, discussed, argued and kept for a lifetime. At our house the Hot Stove League never closed, it just became the Shade Tree League in Summer. This game deserves for the History to be more than a ticket to the all mighty dollar disguised into disjointed missions. __________________ *Favente Deo supero*

06-25-2023, 12:13 PM	#11
Kushiel All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas Posts: 1,810	My pleasure! The Great Game is all my Grandfather ever called baseball. He passed in 1975 but I still feel his presence when I watch a game. __________________ *Favente Deo supero*

06-26-2023, 10:57 AM	#12
ChessSafari Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Wilsonville, OR (USA) Posts: 195	Please OOTPB make the missions interesting again. And worth chasing. __________________

06-26-2023, 06:51 PM	#14
ChessSafari Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Wilsonville, OR (USA) Posts: 195	This is worth repeating...to me anyway. Hoping to increase the chance that someone responsible for the game revenue stream reads it. Agree 100% that this year's mission program is disappointing. I remember Kris saying in the past that he had an entire spreadsheet laid out of all the missions for the entire year. And there were 600-800 of them. I'm guessing someone in control thinks that PT Live, PT plus, drops and tourneys (including PT Draft) - which are all positives IMO - obviate the need for a robust mission program. Not for me they don't. I have put less money into the game this year mainly because I have no meaningful missions to chase. Honest feedback here. __________________

06-30-2023, 10:44 PM	#15
LeeD All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 821	Gee, lemme buy that Silver Nolan Ryan card for 20,000 points so I can get a Silver Eric Davis. Yawn. Meanwhile... No old-timer missions. No future legends missions. With the All-Star game around the corner, neither of these is happening soon if at all.

07-01-2023, 10:45 AM	#16
bdawg Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 61	The missions are very stagnant this year. Most of the build-a-lineup players are awful. Lou Gerig and Jackie Robinson missions are impossible unless you invest a fortune. I'm sure the PT+ players are probably getting extra rewards that keep them playing, but the rest of us are getting bored.

07-01-2023, 06:01 PM	#17
LeeD All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 821	PT+ is a little bit plus, but it's mostly the extra packs from daily rewards. With these, I draw a lot of Iron and Bronze cards from missions that dropped three weeks ago. edit to add: The BAL players aren't awful. They're a baseline. My Diamond team has BAL complete plus Negro League 1 complete plus Mookie Betts from Topps Bunt and very little else. They're 81-65 in Diamond this week and made the Diamond playoffs the previous two weeks. Of course, this team would get slaughtered in Perfect League if I managed to get there, but BAL and Negro League being enough to consistently compete at Diamond makes those two series success stories in my book. Last edited by LeeD; 07-01-2023 at 06:21 PM.

07-01-2023, 08:40 PM	#18
screamingpalm Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 66	After a few years of it, I'm a bit tired of the iterations of the same historic cards over and over. Wish they would do more with current events during seasons. Maybe some special cards for players doing really well would make things more interesting and varied each year. Not sure why they stopped doing player of the month cards and such. Last edited by screamingpalm; 07-01-2023 at 08:42 PM.

07-02-2023, 07:00 PM	#19
LeeD All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 821	Not tired of the same historic cards, but I'm tired of seeing inferior versions of those players. How many Rickey Hendersons do we need, and why do we need Iron versions of a Hall-of-Famer?