Closers as Starters

CLEBearcat · 05-17-2023, 02:39 AM

Hey there folks!

I've noticed this in a few versions but the AI often loves plugging in pretty clear closers/set-up guys (i.e. Camilo Doval on the Giants) into a starter role despite pretty terrible stamina and a suggested role of "bullpen". Has anyone else seen this? Any way to get the AI to not do this?

Thank you in advance!

ohiodevil · 05-17-2023, 07:01 AM

Are they using them as an Opener? Check their pitching staff page and see if those guys have (OP) next to their names.

wallewalls · 05-17-2023, 08:30 AM

I remember this being an issue a long time ago, but I haven't noticed it in this year's version.

Dave Hansen · 05-17-2023, 08:44 AM

Is the AI doing this because one of the team's starters is injured and therefore not available? I've seen examples this on occasions...had to do this a time or two with my own team...as it was a better option than a call up from the minors.

Is Doval classified as an emergency starter/long relief on the bullpen lineup?

Ratbelly · 05-17-2023, 03:43 PM

I see this happening with my team currently. If i use suggest rotation as a check to who Ithink should be starters compared to my coaches, I always get my closer put into the starting rotation. In all fairness, he has 4 75 and above pitches and one 50 rated pitch, but his stamina is 35 and his control is 40 which both seem low for a starter.

fredbeene · 05-17-2023, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CLEBearcat

Hey there folks!

I've noticed this in a few versions but the AI often loves plugging in pretty clear closers/set-up guys (i.e. Camilo Doval on the Giants) into a starter role despite pretty terrible stamina and a suggested role of "bullpen". Has anyone else seen this? Any way to get the AI to not do this?

Thank you in advance!

No you can't because they have not split stamina into STARTER and RELIEVER. They likely neve will

CLEBearcat · 05-20-2023, 12:48 AM

I appreciate the replies! In my experience it does occasionally happen due to injury (though there are arguably better options in the pen with starting stamina and pedigree) but it often happens out of the blue as well usually with a super talented closer.

They're not openers, they're usually in the rotation and throwing 5-6 innings. Definitely not as often as it happened in previous versions but it still pops up now and then.

Pelican · 05-20-2023, 08:35 AM

I think you can use the player strategy setting to lock him into the role of closer.

CLEBearcat · 05-24-2023, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelican

I think you can use the player strategy setting to lock him into the role of closer.

That's what I've been doing for my squad - not a bad workaround. Cheers!

05-17-2023, 02:39 AM	#1
CLEBearcat Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Bay Area Posts: 82	Closers as Starters Hey there folks! I've noticed this in a few versions but the AI often loves plugging in pretty clear closers/set-up guys (i.e. Camilo Doval on the Giants) into a starter role despite pretty terrible stamina and a suggested role of "bullpen". Has anyone else seen this? Any way to get the AI to not do this? Thank you in advance!

05-17-2023, 03:43 PM	#5
Ratbelly Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 131	I see this happening with my team currently. If i use suggest rotation as a check to who Ithink should be starters compared to my coaches, I always get my closer put into the starting rotation. In all fairness, he has 4 75 and above pitches and one 50 rated pitch, but his stamina is 35 and his control is 40 which both seem low for a starter. __________________

05-20-2023, 08:35 AM	#8
Pelican Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Wilmington, Delaware Posts: 2,909	I think you can use the player strategy setting to lock him into the role of closer. __________________ Pelican OOTP 2020-? ”Hard to believe, Harry.”

05-17-2023, 07:01 AM	#2
ohiodevil OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Rocky River, Ohio Posts: 2,423	Are they using them as an Opener? Check their pitching staff page and see if those guys have (OP) next to their names.

05-17-2023, 08:30 AM	#3
wallewalls All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 774 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I remember this being an issue a long time ago, but I haven't noticed it in this year's version.

05-17-2023, 08:44 AM	#4
Dave Hansen Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 345	Is the AI doing this because one of the team's starters is injured and therefore not available? I've seen examples this on occasions...had to do this a time or two with my own team...as it was a better option than a call up from the minors. Is Doval classified as an emergency starter/long relief on the bullpen lineup?

05-20-2023, 12:48 AM	#7
CLEBearcat Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Bay Area Posts: 82	I appreciate the replies! In my experience it does occasionally happen due to injury (though there are arguably better options in the pen with starting stamina and pedigree) but it often happens out of the blue as well usually with a super talented closer. They're not openers, they're usually in the rotation and throwing 5-6 innings. Definitely not as often as it happened in previous versions but it still pops up now and then.