Getting Fed Up

[Hwilensky]

Originally Posted by Hwilensky

Thank you for agreeing with me. I just wish they were more transparent about it. It's like they see people winning a whole bunch of tournamnets, and they go woooo, we have to put a stop to this.

And something changed again today.....getting blitzed out of tournaments all day long...i mean not even close....

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by Hwilensky

And something changed again today.....getting blitzed out of tournaments all day long...i mean not even close....

Again........Time goes on and people upgrade their teams, and there are more teams with players at the top of the tier youre playing. It's really not Rocket Surgery. Once everyone figures out which cards are the best for each level it takes a couple weeks for everyone to acquire them and then all the teams are basically the same. And there hasn't been enough new cards released that replace the current top card(s) per position.

I do pretty much exclusively Gold Level for tourneys and yes, the past week I have seen the gap shrink yet again and I get to the Finals even less. Going from 3 wins and 6 seconds daily in Quick Golds to maybe 1 win and a couple second places. And you know what, to me, that's awesome. How boring is it to just click and forget and reap packs every day, and I don't think your ability level matches your entitled expectations to constantly win. Unless Youre talking about Open Tourneys and you own all 100s and 90s that are the best at every position, its absolutely unrealistic to expect to win as often now.

Also- honestly mate it's baseball, it's very random and a sport where sometimes it's better to be Lucky than Good. Every game is basically a 51-49 coinflip and even the worst teams in the history of the game still win 30% of their games. If the best teams always win, the 2001 Mariners swept every round of the playoffs and ran away with an easy WS. Someone has to be on the losing end of every game mate, these are such extremely small sample sizes, even 50 games in a long Bo7 tourney isnt a big enough sample size- and its a GREAT THING for the game to be getting so competitive. If everyone is zigging- you gotta zag and try something different!

[bailey]

Originally Posted by AlexHunter

Also- honestly mate it's baseball

It's not baseball. It's fake and it's driven by stats. For all we know the result is pre-determined like a slot machine in Vegas.

Tuesday was a great day, 25% of entries made the finals. Today, I'm already 0 for 12 and it's not even 10AM.

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by bailey

It's not baseball. It's fake and it's driven by stats. For all we know the result is pre-determined like a slot machine in Vegas.

Tuesday was a great day, 25% of entries made the finals. Today, I'm already 0 for 12 and it's not even 10AM.

Congrats on your success Tuesday! Apologies for your failures Yesterday. I was like 0 for 16 on Tuesday but was 25% of finals yesterday. Hopefully from here on out you keep making 25% of finals so we don't have to hear you complain about your failures anymore.

[Hwilensky]

Originally Posted by AlexHunter

Congrats on your success Tuesday! Apologies for your failures Yesterday. I was like 0 for 16 on Tuesday but was 25% of finals yesterday. Hopefully from here on out you keep making 25% of finals so we don't have to hear you complain about your failures anymore.

No need to get nasty...we are just venting....

Congrats on your success..btw... been doing better today then I was the previous two days.

[bailey]

Originally Posted by Hwilensky

No need to get nasty...we are just venting....

Congrats on your success..btw... been doing better today then I was the previous two days.

Success? Started 0 for 20, on top of 0 for 8 to end the previous day is a 28 game losing streak. Then one win. and now 20 more lost. All of my opponents sure got really good in less than 48 hours.

[Hwilensky]

Originally Posted by bailey

Success? Started 0 for 20, on top of 0 for 8 to end the previous day is a 28 game losing streak. Then one win. and now 20 more lost. All of my opponents sure got really good in less than 48 hours.

I was talking about Tuesday,lol

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by bailey

Success? Started 0 for 20, on top of 0 for 8 to end the previous day is a 28 game losing streak. Then one win. and now 20 more lost. All of my opponents sure got really good in less than 48 hours.

Its almost like, i know its a crazy thought, that other people upgrade their teams and slowly collect the best cards as time goes on!

[bailey]

Originally Posted by AlexHunter

Its almost like, i know its a crazy thought, that other people upgrade their teams and slowly collect the best cards as time goes on!

I'm sure that is what people are trying to do. Those that are good at this keep playing and those that are not give up, so in that way teams are getting better. But, and I don't mean to be disagreeable, but in bronze and iron tournaments, it's possible to own all the eligible cards by now. So, how do you determine which ones are "best"? Not making the finals 49 times out of 50 I just have to chalk up to RNG, as unlikely as that must be. (I would like to know the exact probability if I have a 15% chance of making it, but I'm 50 years removed from my stats class and looking it up
on the probability pages is like reading Latin, which I could do in the past, but not now).

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by bailey

I'm sure that is what people are trying to do. Those that are good at this keep playing and those that are not give up, so in that way teams are getting better. But, and I don't mean to be disagreeable, but in bronze and iron tournaments, it's possible to own all the eligible cards by now. So, how do you determine which ones are "best"? Not making the finals 49 times out of 50 I just have to chalk up to RNG, as unlikely as that must be. (I would like to know the exact probability if I have a 15% chance of making it, but I'm 50 years removed from my stats class and looking it up
on the probability pages is like reading Latin, which I could do in the past, but not now).

It's fairly easy to pull data on tournaments, convert to tables, and bust out equations to show who performs the best. In Gold, everyone knows that silver Chipper Jones is the best 3B/DH and nearly 80% of teams deploy him. As of today, the Gold Chipper Jones is EVEN BETTER and doesn't need to be platooned so eventually everyone will have it. I dont pull Data for Silver and Bronze, as those are just fun levels for my Theme Team and my Third team respectively and I only do gold on my main account. But yeh, enough data from enough tournaments will show who consistently has the best PA/WAR or wRC% and those are the cards to target for your team.

That being said, made it through 3 rounds of a gold quick tourney and lost, and my gold chipper had 1 homer with a .201 avg. the next tournament I was eliminated after the third round too and he had 4 homers and a .560. I've lost 15-1 in PT with my Diamonds and Golds to a bronze/iron team that was last in the league, and Ive beaten a team with half perfects and the rest diamonds 12-0. Truly, a lot of it is RNG and you just gotta put the best team available on the field and hope it all clicks.

ALSO- Home Field advantage matters too, as it gives you about a 54/46 advantage from the start.

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by bailey

I'm sure that is what people are trying to do. Those that are good at this keep playing and those that are not give up, so in that way teams are getting better. But, and I don't mean to be disagreeable, but in bronze and iron tournaments, it's possible to own all the eligible cards by now. So, how do you determine which ones are "best"? Not making the finals 49 times out of 50 I just have to chalk up to RNG, as unlikely as that must be. (I would like to know the exact probability if I have a 15% chance of making it, but I'm 50 years removed from my stats class and looking it up
on the probability pages is like reading Latin, which I could do in the past, but not now).

Also- Bronze and Probably iron are super competitive BECAUSE people have most all of the cards and can actually field a competitive team. Those Daily Early/Late Iron, Bronze, Silvers always fill way their 64 spots way faster than gold does, I'm constantly missing bronze signups and the Early/Late was only posted for 30 minutes.

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by bailey

I'm sure that is what people are trying to do. Those that are good at this keep playing and those that are not give up, so in that way teams are getting better. But, and I don't mean to be disagreeable, but in bronze and iron tournaments, it's possible to own all the eligible cards by now. So, how do you determine which ones are "best"? Not making the finals 49 times out of 50 I just have to chalk up to RNG, as unlikely as that must be. (I would like to know the exact probability if I have a 15% chance of making it, but I'm 50 years removed from my stats class and looking it up
on the probability pages is like reading Latin, which I could do in the past, but not now).

I don't necessarily want any more experienced dedicated competition- but check out the world of Gold. It's still "fairly" affordable to field a very competitive team (you can literally buy a super competitive gold team of 26 players from scratch for ~70k PP) and definitely seem to have an overall better Finals % than other levels.

[rwd59]

Originally Posted by Hwilensky

Just kind of silly and frustrating at the same time. Last week my team won 27 tournaments, and this week...3. Same team...sucks that it is happening but I guess...fun...that I have to go back to the drawing board....I just always feel that they do something behind the scenes to change what metric is important on a weekly/daily basis..but thats just me.

I am with you on this. I haven't won anything in 2+ weeks. I was winning enough to satisfy me up until that point.