Sounds of Baseball with Small Crowds

[kcstengelsr]

The default sounds file works well for the most part if you are playing your manual game in 2021 and if you are playing your manual game in a major league stadium. I do think that the default sounds file works less well in historical years prior to at least 1970 and with smaller crowds found in places like the minor leagues, college baseball, and even high school baseball. Basically I feel that the default sounds file is not very good when the crowd numbers 5K or less.

I made a complete sounds file for everyone to try if your team expects attendance of 5K or less. This can work in historical ballparks having a difficult time drawing fans, minor league teams struggling at the gate, and college/high school games.

After downloading and unzipping the file, bulk copy and paste all the enclosed files into your specific ballpark sounds file. For example if you already have some of the minor league parks by silvam14 or eriqjaffe just go to a specific team using that ballpark and edit the ballpark sounds file there by pasting these.
It really is up to your personal taste on setting in-game ambient volume for the purpose of hearing more sounds in detail than the general background noise. I dislike changing crowd or game sounds from default volume but ambient volume might work at default with some 5K in attendance if the fans are really into the action but you might like ambient volume at 190 if only 500 people are at the game and/or if the contest is a snoozer.

I will be interested to hear what everyone thinks of these "Smaller Park Sounds," so give it a try at some minor league/college/high school balldiamond and make a comment below. I do know from personal experience that baseball in situations with not so many fans sounds different than baseball in the majors or baseball on television.

If you dislike these complete sounds for your smaller ballpark just go back to the edit ballpark/sounds of that ballpark and delete all of them to return to the default game sounds.

Have fun! https://www.mediafire.com/file/n2pj0...ounds.zip/file

Footnote:
I was not aiming for any particular historical era with the stretch.ogg's here as I was intending for down tempo versions of Take Me Out to the Ballgame along with a few popular songs. The stretches will play in a random order but one may remove some or all of them from your minor league/college/highschool park while keeping a few things in mind:
1. Stretches 17, 51, 100, and 113 are versions of Take Me Out to the Ballgame with 17 and 113 being piano versions which could be used starting in 1908 and with 51 and 100 being organ versions best used beginning in 1941.
2. Stretches 21, 37, and 129 are popular tunes all on organ. Stretch 129 is from 1958, stretch 21 is from 1961, and stretch 37 is from 1965.
3. Stretch 133 is a popular tune on piano. It is from 1943.
4. Stretches like rallies and ambients go in no certain order as they play randomly. If you want your small crowd park to always only play a generic Take Me Out to the Ballgame I suggest removing all stretches except stretch17.ogg from your ballpark's sounds file if your era is 1908-1940 and to remove all stretches except stretch51.ogg if your era is 1941 to the current day from your ballpark's sounds file.
I did not perform any of the tunes in the stretches. They are from various artists who deserve the credit.

[rleb]

I really enjoy this!!! Thank you!

Question - is there a version of crowd_game38 and crowd_main49 that has the bird sounds either removed or reduced? I really like the atmosphere it gives - I just find the bird sounds a tad too loud.

I tried to edit it myself in Audacity (but my know-how is pretty limited, so it only 'sorta' worked).

[micropterus58]

Try a tutorial for Audacity. You should be able to delete or lower the volume of the tweets. For me Audacity is trial and error. Just work on a copy so you don't ruin the original.
https://www.google.com/search?client...acity+tutorial

[Ty Cobb]

Nice work, definitely using this!

[igor7111]

Thanks for doing this. Fantastic work.

[fredbeene]

Originally Posted by kcstengelsr

The default sounds file works well for the most part if you are playing your manual game in 2021 and if you are playing your manual game in a major league stadium. I do think that the default sounds file works less well in historical years prior to at least 1970 and with smaller crowds found in places like the minor leagues, college baseball, and even high school baseball. Basically I feel that the default sounds file is not very good when the crowd numbers 5K or less.

I made a complete sounds file for everyone to try if your team expects attendance of 5K or less. This can work in historical ballparks having a difficult time drawing fans, minor league teams struggling at the gate, and college/high school games.

After downloading and unzipping the file, bulk copy and paste all the enclosed files into your specific ballpark sounds file. For example if you already have some of the minor league parks by silvam14 or eriqjaffe just go to a specific team using that ballpark and edit the ballpark sounds file there by pasting these.
It really is up to your personal taste on setting in-game ambient volume for the purpose of hearing more sounds in detail than the general background noise. I dislike changing crowd or game sounds from default volume but ambient volume might work at default with some 5K in attendance if the fans are really into the action but you might like ambient volume at 190 if only 500 people are at the game and/or if the contest is a snoozer.

I will be interested to hear what everyone thinks of these "Smaller Park Sounds," so give it a try at some minor league/college/high school balldiamond and make a comment below. I do know from personal experience that baseball in situations with not so many fans sounds different than baseball in the majors or baseball on television.

If you dislike these complete sounds for your smaller ballpark just go back to the edit ballpark/sounds of that ballpark and delete all of them to return to the default game sounds.

Have fun! https://www.mediafire.com/file/n2pj0...ounds.zip/file

Footnote:
I was not aiming for any particular historical era with the stretch.ogg's here as I was intending for down tempo versions of Take Me Out to the Ballgame along with a few popular songs. The stretches will play in a random order but one may remove some or all of them from your minor league/college/highschool park while keeping a few things in mind:
1. Stretches 17, 51, 100, and 113 are versions of Take Me Out to the Ballgame with 17 and 113 being piano versions which could be used starting in 1908 and with 51 and 100 being organ versions best used beginning in 1941.
2. Stretches 21, 37, and 129 are popular tunes all on organ. Stretch 129 is from 1958, stretch 21 is from 1961, and stretch 37 is from 1965.
3. Stretch 133 is a popular tune on piano. It is from 1943.
4. Stretches like rallies and ambients go in no certain order as they play randomly. If you want your small crowd park to always only play a generic Take Me Out to the Ballgame I suggest removing all stretches except stretch17.ogg from your ballpark's sounds file if your era is 1908-1940 and to remove all stretches except stretch51.ogg if your era is 1941 to the current day from your ballpark's sounds file.
I did not perform any of the tunes in the stretches. They are from various artists who deserve the credit.

great idea! but it seem you can't match the file the actual attendance
that will never happen

[RonCey10]

I can't seem to fully download the file you posted. I tried several times, but it fails every single time. Is there another link to your files?

[kcstengelsr]

I tested the mediafire link for small crowds and it appears to still work (at least for me).

Can others besides me download small crowds folder?

[micropterus58]

Works for me.

[chicago43055]

Worked for me too

[kcstengelsr]

I have played hundreds of games since I introduced this file and the fact of the matter is that ambients don't seem to appear on a frequent basis when the crowds are less than 5K even if you set the ambient volume at 190 or higher. I think the game just assumes that crowds that small only rarely show interest in the game being played but ambients will be more prominent if the game is a close one or if the home team is winning.

I have a new rule of thumb which I use for setting ambient volume prior to launching a manual game. Check the attendance and then set ambient volume as follows:
90 ambient volume: all star games, world series, and crowds of 50K and higher--I also set crowd, field, and music volumes at 90 for these large events. I also like to have ambient frequency at very rarely for these large events with ambient frequency at normal for all other sizes of crowds.
100 ambient volume: crowds of 45K to 49K
110 a v: crowds of 40K to 44K
120 a v: crowds of 35K to 39K
130 a v: crowds of 30K to 34K
140 a v: crowds of 25K to 29K
150 a v: crowds of 20K to 24K
160 a v: crowds of 15K to 19K
170 a v: crowds of 10K to 14K
180 a v: crowds of 5K to 9K
190 ambient volume: crowds of less than 5K

Perhaps I should update all of my sounds files found here at the mods as I now find that more ambient variety is key to a good experience. Currently my Yankee Stadium circa 1961 has 86 different ambients and the crowds are such that volume is normally around 140 or so. You can listen to games with that many ambients available free on Twitch games from Yankee Stadium by kcstengelsr. My small crowd file would probably be better if I added additional ambients in some update as it only has 24 ambients compared to 19 for the default game sounds file.