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Minors (Single A)
Join Date: Jul 2018
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Small sample size but across three saves I have been impressed with the AIs hard bargain driving on this setting. Literally never felt bilked by the AI ever till the last trade where I did a hindsight review and thought "those bastards ripped me off"
As an example in my new Colorado save I threw the doors open on Kris Bryants salary dump expecting salivating teams to pounce but eventually was beaten down to a 50% discount by a win now Tampa Bay who were stacked with prospects and IMO is one of the most balanced trades I have had to work on for over an OOTP week. This was the trade where I felt ripped off but I became too focused on sealing the deal for the player I wanted. |
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Iowa
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Trade frequency "average" Evaluations are: 25/25/25/25/ With these settings there were 5 trades in April. I kept track of these in my "notes" section in OOTP. It's pretty easy as you can copy/paste from your news emails. Below is a copy/paste from my notes section. First entry I did manually before figuring out about copying from my news emails. After that I did the copy from news and, as you can see, edited out needless "filling" and added some comments. Basically all minor league player deals with some teams getting prospects (NOT top prospects) and others seasoned AAA players that could help now. Looks pretty normal to me, and is encouraging since I am using the 4- 25's and average frequency. On to seeing how things go in May. Quote:
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#166 |
Minors (Triple A)
Join Date: Mar 2015
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Stupid question where do I find trade frequency?
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#167 |
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Location: Iowa
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Join Date: Mar 2015
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#169 |
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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pfholden released a pretty solid video on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUX-5nIhbuM
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#170 |
Minors (Rookie Ball)
Join Date: Mar 2023
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Does anyone know if changes are likely to be made to the trad engine in the near future? I want to start a long-term save, but don't want to start one if changes will be made soon.
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#171 |
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 774
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No idea on when the next patch is going to be (I asked in the latest patch thread and received crickets) and if it will attempt to fix this issue. I was in the same boat as you and just decided to start it up before I lose interest. The fix, for now, seems to be to put trading frequency on very low, and in my first season, I didn't notice anything egregious like I did when the came first came out, but I wasn't checking closely or logging it or anything.
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Join Date: Apr 2022
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#173 |
Major Leagues
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Richmond, Virginia area
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From another thread:
As a general rule I always wait at least until end of April/start of May to start a long term save. The first month, there are always annoying bugs but also they are continuing to update the opening day roster set and, perhaps more importantly for a long term save, the future and current prospects. |
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#174 |
Major Leagues
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Staunton, VA
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It's a PITA, but I generally do a whole bunch of standard game starts with different teams to get a feel for them- and while I am doing that I also play around with the settings based on board feedback and my own experiences.
I don't generally get serious about a GM game until May or June to give Markus and Co. time to address as much as possible. It stinks, but I don't know of another better way to keep my frustration levels down while playing.
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#175 |
Minors (Triple A)
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Whittier, CA
Posts: 206
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It would appear to me that whatever trade frequency issues there are, only apply to the default MLB roster set.
I ran a test league from 2005-2018, modern MLB setup with fictional players, below were my results. This looks pretty in line with reality, and not close at all to the numbers pfholden was seeing with the MLB roster. Just to verify, I ran a second league, same setup, and very similar results: |
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Location: Iowa
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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Interesting results, but I don’t think it’s conclusive - I’ve seen the trade issues in fictional and historical |
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#178 |
All Star Reserve
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 774
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I imported my long-running game that I've been playing since OOTP 20 yesterday. I forgot to turn down the trade frequency, and there were 20+ trades made in the first two days before I realized, so I would say it's probably not just the default MLB roster, although I will admit that it is probably more to do with team re-evaluating their players in the new game.
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Iowa
Posts: 6,615
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As I posted earlier I did not see "mind boggling" trades that left me asking "what the hell?". I saw a lot of "even" trades for basically filler or average players going for one another, many being minor league or "up and down" depth players. Though I reviewed every trade where I could see if the trades had players of similar quality (which the vast majority of the time they did) I did not look over both teams seeing if that IF for OF left both teams with a better mix. If the trades are "even", mostly minor leaguers or depth players, and they make the AI teams better? I think it's a good thing. Keep in mind my game is a long term dynasty where the players long ago became fictional through attrition. I don't use the real players and don't know enough about how they are rated or contracts they come with to speculate on how the AI "works with and makes decisions" about them. |
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All Star Reserve
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 774
Infractions: 0/1 (1)
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I was hoping that with OOTP 24, I would be starting up a new long-term game finally, but I just haven't gotten very immersed in any of my attempts thus far. Maybe I will try again with some more patches, |
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