Camden Yards

[andyhdz]

let's be honest guys if there were changes like this at Yankee Stadium or Fenway Park the 3D changes would have been done ASAP.

[Birdland24]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Baseball Savant has park factors. Are they the same as OOTP's historic sources? Is Camden updated based on last year? i don't know. But the factors can be changed by the user at any time.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leade...enue?venueId=2

Is this something we can manually add in?


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[Birdland24]

Originally Posted by silvam14

Haha nice of you to offer me up, but I’m afraid I don’t have the knowledge of a Jorin to replicate what has been done with the current MLB parks. (Although I don’t think he actually built these more than just fit them into the game). Either way. I’m mostly a sketchup guy and sketchup certainly has its limitations on shadows and lighting.

Thanks Sweed!


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Will you be making a Camden Yards this year? I’ll gladly donate a few dollars.


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[CBLCardinals]

I believe Silvam14 has a fantastic 3D version of Camden Yards from last season, complete with updated dimensions and park factors. Silvam can you send the link in this post??

[Birdland24]

Originally Posted by CBLCardinals

I believe Silvam14 has a fantastic 3D version of Camden Yards from last season, complete with updated dimensions and park factors. Silvam can you send the link in this post??

I didn’t know if it can be used in this years game with the updated 3D?


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[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by Birdland24

Is this something we can manually add in?


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You can edit the park factors on the same Edit Ballpark screen as the dimensions. So, yup, you can edit it.

[Birdland24]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

You can edit the park factors on the same Edit Ballpark screen as the dimensions. So, yup, you can edit it.

Will you be doing this? I have to do some research cause I’ve never actually updated park factors so I don’t want to do more damage. Lol


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[jimbolewis8]

I would love to see it too - lifetime O's fan and pretty much only play with O's and fiction... would be nice to be completely accurate.

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by Birdland24

Will you be doing this? I have to do some research cause I’ve never actually updated park factors so I don’t want to do more damage. Lol

You won't do damage. For the dimensions themselves, wikipedia should have them on the far right-hand side. If a particular one is missing there are other sites. but that's just cosmetic. The park factors are best looked at on a three-year rolling basis if evaluating a park objectively but there is one year of data for the new Camden Yards.

Here is what is was supposed to do [stop Hrs]: https://www.mlb.com/news/how-2022-ca...affect-hitters

Did it do that? Absolutely. For both lefties and righties, it went from a consistently above average HR park to one that had only 77% of HRs as an average park. To make the changes on that Edit Ballpark screen, just recognize that you can split the Savant data into vs. L and vs. R. Then look at the corresponding number for 2022. OOTP uses a decimal place, so a "100" value on Savant is a 1.00 value in OOTP.

So, if your goal is to give OOTP a whirl with less HR being given up by your young pitching staff, taking it to 0.77 in OOTP will make it akin to how it played last year (it was coincidentally 77 for both L and R). I'm away from the game atm so don't have the screen up - but it's public beta. Change it in a Standard game and let it sim for a few years and compare it to the league or other parks.

Again, i don't know what other balancing OOTP does or if they too just take it from a trusted source like Savant but the gist of what you are looking for is fairly straight-forward with the in-game editing function. Good luck and while I'm a Red Sox fan, I am kinda rooting for the O's this year. Charm City is a good town with good fans.

[eriqjaffe]

Originally Posted by Birdland24

I didn’t know if it can be used in this years game with the updated 3D?

Yes, user-created parks from previous versions still work in 24.

[BusterKing]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Those dimension changes will be made by the release (just as far as the measurements go in the park settings in-game). Obviously though, it'll have to wait until we have data on how the parks play to adjust the factors.

Baseball parks real representation are important for 3D.

Get it done right and this goes for the new Rogers Centre look.

Game is awesome.

[Birdland24]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

You won't do damage. For the dimensions themselves, wikipedia should have them on the far right-hand side. If a particular one is missing there are other sites. but that's just cosmetic. The park factors are best looked at on a three-year rolling basis if evaluating a park objectively but there is one year of data for the new Camden Yards.

Here is what is was supposed to do [stop Hrs]: https://www.mlb.com/news/how-2022-ca...affect-hitters

Did it do that? Absolutely. For both lefties and righties, it went from a consistently above average HR park to one that had only 77% of HRs as an average park. To make the changes on that Edit Ballpark screen, just recognize that you can split the Savant data into vs. L and vs. R. Then look at the corresponding number for 2022. OOTP uses a decimal place, so a "100" value on Savant is a 1.00 value in OOTP.

So, if your goal is to give OOTP a whirl with less HR being given up by your young pitching staff, taking it to 0.77 in OOTP will make it akin to how it played last year (it was coincidentally 77 for both L and R). I'm away from the game atm so don't have the screen up - but it's public beta. Change it in a Standard game and let it sim for a few years and compare it to the league or other parks.

Again, i don't know what other balancing OOTP does or if they too just take it from a trusted source like Savant but the gist of what you are looking for is fairly straight-forward with the in-game editing function. Good luck and while I'm a Red Sox fan, I am kinda rooting for the O's this year. Charm City is a good town with good fans.

I appreciate this post so much.

Good luck to you and the Sox this season. Here’s to the O’s and Sox next week


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[LansdowneSt]

From Lukas as posted on another thread today...

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

The Camden Yards factors were updated according to a combination of the data from Statscast and Swish Analytics. I think the data uses more than just 2022 results though, so that may explain why the HR's are a bit higher still.

We'll check on the attendance and fix that up.

[wallewalls]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

From Lukas as posted on another thread today...

Cool, I'll take it.

[elextrano8]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

From Lukas as posted on another thread today...

Has anyone observed this in game? I seem to still be ending up with old dimensions and park factors.

[italyprof]

Originally Posted by silvam14

Haha nice of you to offer me up, but I’m afraid I don’t have the knowledge of a Jorin to replicate what has been done with the current MLB parks. (Although I don’t think he actually built these more than just fit them into the game). Either way. I’m mostly a sketchup guy and sketchup certainly has its limitations on shadows and lighting.

Thanks Sweed!


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Silvam, thank you first of all for your great work over the years with historical and fictional ballparks. What do you think of how the history ones that I for one still use, work in OOTP24? I noticed that a couple of parks makes the players labels go in odd places for example. Thanks again!

[simonmagnus2006]

Originally Posted by elextrano8

Has anyone observed this in game? I seem to still be ending up with old dimensions and park factors.

The attendance was not fixed, and the dimensions of Camden have also not been touched.

[Birdland24]

Originally Posted by simonmagnus2006

The attendance was not fixed, and the dimensions of Camden have also not been touched.

I changed my personally and made it what I think is best to suit what we see now. It stinks that it’s not updated but it’s a minor detail. Hopefully later or next year at least.


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[BaseballGOAT]

Just one of the disappointing aspects of the decline of OOTP over the last few years. Just feels like the passion is gone in the project and that the developers are on cruise control

[jcard]

Originally Posted by BaseballGOAT

Just one of the disappointing aspects of the decline of OOTP over the last few years. Just feels like the passion is gone in the project and that the developers are on cruise control

Given current priorities, perhaps a rebranding is due: “Out of the Pack”