I am busted for tanking

[rudejester]

Just got a "roster doesn't pass the sanity test....tanking....add more players to be competitive..." or words to that affect.

I have always marveled at the teams that kick my ass with vastly inferior cards, and so I set out this year to see if I could do that too.

So, I have investing in making the best iron team I can, and with good results. I was playing at a .545 clip when in an Iron league when I got the warning. Pretty sure I could have ignored it and kept playing with just my iron cards, but I follow the rules, and I activated a couple of players until the scolding went away.

I've playing this game since it started, and I'm kinda bummed that I was called out for tanking when all I was trying to do was see if a low budget team can win. It turns out, a well chosen iron team can compete nicely.

I was having a lot of fun beating teams with way higher card ratings on a regular basis, and then I was called a cheater.

Oh well.

[Socali]

It shouldn't really matter what players you are using if you are winning, as you say, at .545 clip. Hopefully that is a coding error. Tanking should apply when you have a really bad record, no?

[SlinkyTWF]

A trick that worked last year: put your high cards you aren't planning on using on the AH for an unsellable price. They are removed from your roster while there, and won't count against your tanking calculation. If they happen to sell, good for you. If you want them back, cancel the sale.

[Ty Cobb]

That's a TOS violation, Slinky.

[Bunktown Ballers]

Originally Posted by rudejester

Just got a "roster doesn't pass the sanity test....tanking....add more players to be competitive..." or words to that affect.

I have always marveled at the teams that kick my ass with vastly inferior cards, and so I set out this year to see if I could do that too.

So, I have investing in making the best iron team I can, and with good results. I was playing at a .545 clip when in an Iron league when I got the warning. Pretty sure I could have ignored it and kept playing with just my iron cards, but I follow the rules, and I activated a couple of players until the scolding went away.



I've playing this game since it started, and I'm kinda bummed that I was called out for tanking when all I was trying to do was see if a low budget team can win. It turns out, a well chosen iron team can compete nicely.

I was having a lot of fun beating teams with way higher card ratings on a regular basis, and then I was called a cheater.

Oh well.

The main thing I see is the it must be required to pour never ending funds into making the greatest team you can. Not everyone has those kind of funds just laying around to pour into a card based baseball game. To me tanking is acquiring highly rated Perfect Cards running up a astounding record then benching the best of the best player cards for playoff time assuring you don't advance to level by losing in playoffs. This happening so much nobody cares anymore because it seems to be allowed. In last league I played In I made playoffs as last Wild Card entry, only to lose in finals to a team with 2 less season wins than me in finals. 3 100+ win teams got swept in 1st round they played in thus falling out of top 4 and didn't get promoted while my 88 win team did. I quit PT after that season after I followed up and saw that they had benched key players. No use in reporting because money spenders have special rules they play with.

BB

[daves]

Originally Posted by rudejester

Just got a "roster doesn't pass the sanity test....tanking....add more players to be competitive..." or words to that affect.

I have always marveled at the teams that kick my ass with vastly inferior cards, and so I set out this year to see if I could do that too.

So, I have investing in making the best iron team I can, and with good results. I was playing at a .545 clip when in an Iron league when I got the warning. Pretty sure I could have ignored it and kept playing with just my iron cards, but I follow the rules, and I activated a couple of players until the scolding went away.

I've playing this game since it started, and I'm kinda bummed that I was called out for tanking when all I was trying to do was see if a low budget team can win. It turns out, a well chosen iron team can compete nicely.

I was having a lot of fun beating teams with way higher card ratings on a regular basis, and then I was called a cheater.

Oh well.

What level are you playing at? Rookie shouldn’t matter since many of the rookie teams are generally bad.


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[HRBaker]

My guess is the coding added to try and prevent tanking is probably being a bit too aggressive when applied to the lower levels. I'm sure someone from the team will take a look at that when they can.

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by HRBaker

My guess is the coding added to try and prevent tanking is probably being a bit too aggressive when applied to the lower levels. I'm sure someone from the team will take a look at that when they can.

In the past, there were many issues of teams tanking by changing their roster to all iron cards (or putting all iron pitchers). That necessitated the checks like described above.

[HRBaker]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

In the past, there were many issues of teams tanking by changing their roster to all iron cards (or putting all iron pitchers). That necessitated the checks like described above.

Ah, so the logic is "we know you have better cards and you should be using them." I get that. The only way the OP, then, could play an "all iron" lineup is to more-or-less have an "all iron" roster. Then the message goes away. Can't have his cake and eat it too, LOL.

[SlinkyTWF]

Originally Posted by Ty Cobb

That's a TOS violation, Slinky.

Oops. Don't do that then.

Before OOTP relaxed the restrictions a bit, it was impossible to make a theme team. Afterwards, it wasn't an issue.

[rburgh]

"That's a TOS violation, Slinky."


There's no perfect card in the current set that I wouldn't rather have a million PP's for, no diamond I wouldn't rather have 100K for, and no gold I would't rather have 20K for.



It's a violation for me to try to improve my team by selling my good cards? And even if I'm wrong, who is the almighty being here with the power and the unerring judgment to make the determination that I am tanking rather than trying to improve my team according to my own lights.


And if I give up because the diamond I have listed for 100K now has a half dozen copies available at 40-50K, am I not allowed to reconsider and decide I'd rather use the card that sell it if all I can get for it is 40K?

[Kushiel]

Originally Posted by rburgh

"That's a TOS violation, Slinky."

And if I give up because the diamond I have listed for 100K now has a half dozen copies available at 40-50K, am I not allowed to reconsider and decide I'd rather use the card that sell it if all I can get for it is 40K?

People abusing that scenario is exactly why you can't do it.

[rburgh]

That it ain't necessarily tanking. What I proposed was a perfectly legitimate reason for offering a card at a very high price, and then withdrawing the offer when it becomes impractical to hope to get that price.


Just like the guy that was comfortably over .500 with an all iron team and was given a tanking violation. If your team is over .500 you should be immune from receiving a tanking warning.

[rudejester]

Thank you for the thoughtful replies. I appreciate the responses. I've had some fun following the advice.

I activated an Ellis Burks 97 card that I had drawn, who proceeded to hit below his weight in an Iron League (80 ABs +/-). I sold the card at a bargain price.

I really understand the reason for the anti-tanking rule. I get it.

And, by the way, I was wrong, you can't play after you get that warning. Your roster is reset to the last entry.

Thanks

[rburgh]

I had that happen to me a couple of years ago, and was never able to get the team back on the approved list. It's like Gunsmoke - they think you're guilty, they shoot you and ask questions later.

[Ty Cobb]

Originally Posted by rburgh

That it ain't necessarily tanking. What I proposed was a perfectly legitimate reason for offering a card at a very high price, and then withdrawing the offer when it becomes impractical to hope to get that price.


Just like the guy that was comfortably over .500 with an all iron team and was given a tanking violation. If your team is over .500 you should be immune from receiving a tanking warning.

Your naïveté is touching,. The TOS doesn't say anything about being over .500——it talks about intentionally fielding an inadequate team Whales have been abusing this since day 1, and that's why the rule is there. It's unfortunate if a few honest people get spent up in the net, I agree...but the alternative is rampant abuse. Blame the greedy. That's who created this situation.

Also, if supply/demand curves are functioning as in a truly free market, then Detroit, Washington, Pittsburgh, and KC cards should be at higher values since those missions are easily completed and should therefore face high demand.. They aren't...hence my take on the market.

[rudejester]

My players disappeared. Whisky Tango Foxtrot

[rudejester]

I'm done. I want my money back.

[rudejester]

My mistake….filter not cleared. Nothing to see here. Keep moving.