Teams Not Carrying 2 Catchers

[alec_shultz5]

This was a problem in OOTP 23 and seems like it's still prevalent in 24. There are multiple teams that fail to carry 2 catchers, and end up starting one catcher every single game. That catcher ends up getting fatigued very quickly and struggles mightily. This is 25-man rosters. There are currently 7 out of 30 teams only carrying one catcher in early April.

[Matt Arnold]

Are there not enough eligible catchers in the league to fill all the rosters? What league setup are you using here?

[alec_shultz5]

It's a standard MLB setup, but has been rolled over from OOTP 18/19. However, I think I've just found the issue. For whatever reason, my settings were only guiding teams to carry 12 position players rather than 13 (see screenshot). Guessing this will help?

[alec_shultz5]

Originally Posted by alec_shultz5

It's a standard MLB setup, but has been rolled over from OOTP 18/19. However, I think I've just found the issue. For whatever reason, my settings were only guiding teams to carry 12 position players rather than 13 (see screenshot). Guessing this will help?

This didn't seem to fix much. I simmed a couple of weeks ahead and now 1/3 of the league is only carrying one catcher. There are catchers that are clearing waivers, so not sure what the issue is.

[LansdowneSt]

Anything else unique? Foreigner restrictions... Age restrictions... that got accidently toggled in the merge?

[Andy]

I also have this issue in one of my leagues that I converted from 23. I play manager only and my team only has 1 catcher on the ML roster. I checked and there is another catcher on the 40 man who is in AAA.

[alec_shultz5]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Anything else unique? Foreigner restrictions... Age restrictions... that got accidently toggled in the merge?

No, I went and compared the settings for a standard 2023 MLB start to my file and relatively everything is the same. My 40-man roster is only 38 (league evolution) and my active roster size is only 25 but wouldn't think this would lead to this.

I went into Commissioner Mode and DFA'd some relievers on these teams (most teams seemed to be carrying too many pitchers), replaced them with the best catcher from AAA, and a couple of days later some teams are already DFA'ing the catcher.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by alec_shultz5

No, I went and compared the settings for a standard 2023 MLB start to my file and relatively everything is the same. My 40-man roster is only 38 (league evolution) and my active roster size is only 25 but wouldn't think this would lead to this.

I went into Commissioner Mode and DFA'd some relievers on these teams (most teams seemed to be carrying too many pitchers), replaced them with the best catcher from AAA, and a couple of days later some teams are already DFA'ing the catcher.

In my league I have 26 man rosters, but I had it set to have 8 relievers and 12 position players and then the AI could do whatever it wanted with the last spot. My team (manager only) had 9 relievers. I switched the settings to 8 relievers and 13 position players, simmed a day and my team still had 9 relievers so it didn’t even register me changing the setting.

[R0cketer]

I would have thought most had a player who was catcher eligible but mostly play another position

[alec_shultz5]

Originally Posted by R0cketer

I would have thought most had a player who was catcher eligible but mostly play another position

Not in my case anyways, just checked the rosters and none of them have catacher as a secondary position or anything. Catchers are getting so exhausted that they're performing terribly. This screenshot is from the prior year and would have been OOTP23, but -4.2 WAR in 92 games.

[alec_shultz5]

Originally Posted by Andy

In my league I have 26 man rosters, but I had it set to have 8 relievers and 12 position players and then the AI could do whatever it wanted with the last spot. My team (manager only) had 9 relievers. I switched the settings to 8 relievers and 13 position players, simmed a day and my team still had 9 relievers so it didn’t even register me changing the setting.

Yeah, when I switched the setting as well it seemed to make no impact to the AI decision-making. There's a couple of teams that are carrying 14 pitchers and 11 position players with only 1 of them being a catcher.

[Lukas Berger]

I guess we'll need to see your league files here to figure out what might be going on. You can either send them in directly or post them on Dropbox/Google Drive and post a link.

https://support.ootpdevelopments.com...p-developments

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

I guess we'll need to see your league files here to figure out what might be going on. You can either send them in directly or post them on Dropbox/Google Drive and post a link.

https://support.ootpdevelopments.com...p-developments

Just did. NY Empire.lg

[thehef]

Originally Posted by alec_shultz5

It's a standard MLB setup, but has been rolled over from OOTP 18/19.

In order to determine if it's some issue that rolled over from earlier versions of OOTP, or if it's a universal issue with the standard MLB setup, I would try , in version 24, starting a new game with your settings as you best remember them, sim ahead a bit, and see if the issue exists. If so, then it's not a rollover from a previous version, it's either pre-existing, or it's with your settings. So at that point, try another test with v 24 but with all default settings, and see if the issue still exists. Then you'll know whether it's something with your settings (which still could indicated a bug), or if it's a universal issue with MLB setup.

[alec_shultz5]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

I guess we'll need to see your league files here to figure out what might be going on. You can either send them in directly or post them on Dropbox/Google Drive and post a link.

https://support.ootpdevelopments.com...p-developments

Just uploaded as "Cubs Upload"

[alec_shultz5]

Originally Posted by thehef

In order to determine if it's some issue that rolled over from earlier versions of OOTP, or if it's a universal issue with the standard MLB setup, I would try , in version 24, starting a new game with your settings as you best remember them, sim ahead a bit, and see if the issue exists. If so, then it's not a rollover from a previous version, it's either pre-existing, or it's with your settings. So at that point, try another test with v 24 but with all default settings, and see if the issue still exists. Then you'll know whether it's something with your settings (which still could indicated a bug), or if it's a universal issue with MLB setup.

Agreed, although I wanted to post here to see if this was a universal problem or just myself, and/or if the devs have seen this before and had a quick solution.

[thehef]

Originally Posted by alec_shultz5

Agreed, although I wanted to post here to see if this was a universal problem or just myself, and/or if the devs have seen this before and had a quick solution.

For sure. No criticism of you posting here was intended. I was just thinking of a way to determine where the issue was

[Woodfall]

I am also having this problem with my game imported from OOTP 23. Has anyone figured out a fix? It doesn't seem like any of my settings should be affecting this... Some teams are having like 15 pitchers and only 10 batters or even 16 and 9. And many only have 1 catcher or 0.

[Lukas Berger]

This is on our list of things to check out.

[bobbytables]

I am also seeing this issue in my game that is imported from OOTP 23. 16 out of 32 teams have only 1 catcher. The league is set to use 25-man rosters and most teams have 14 pitchers and 11 position players.