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Old 01-20-2023, 10:19 PM   #141
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this whole situation is/was awful

blaming users for NOT reading update details is childish but accurate
shielding OOTP with TOS/EULA is also childish but accurate

lesson I learned... I will never blindly install an OOTP 'update' again... yes it was my mistake to load 103 /105 without a doubt, but make no mistake a trust that had been built over many years was shattered

another lesson I learned, clearly nobody cares but anyhow, I shall not feel guilty in the least if I skip an OOTP product going forward... I always buy them even if I wait on a sale, I still buy. I will no longer berate myself if I skip something
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Old 01-20-2023, 10:32 PM   #142
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Oh no. Not letting you away with that BS.
And you DO know what I mean.
You have offered plenty of good insight/opinions/direction on multiple threads and much of it has been appreciated by the vast majority of forum participants, I'm sure. Myself included.
But anytime it comes to criticism of the game, I can clearly predict in advance where you will stand. And the deeper the debate goes, the more you dig in your heels......
....to the point where, IMHO, all objectivity disappears and, in the two most recent posts I quoted, there is absolutely no value. The posts are actually beneath you. There is no substance. They are just irrelevant responses to those who view things differently because you feel need to retort....or something. I guess.
They have no calories. They carry no weight. In fact, the second one is entirely factually incorrect. It has everything to do with Com2Us.
Let it go.
This forum isn't going to change a damned thing. Those who feel abused are justified, at least to some extent, IMO. Let them vent.
That won't change a damned thing either but hopefully they can get it off their chests.
Not every opinion needs to be countered.
Dave, couldn't agree more. The same apologists show up in every thread and berate those that want to vent or want some justly deserved answers

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LOL... exactly nothing stopping that from happening... it has not but 100% could make you click a box agreeing to the patch with the only other option being to close the game


at which point close the game and start game without interwebs I guess


on the plus side ZERO chance this will be an issue in 24 as that is around the corner... hopefully 109 is the last we hear from 23 and that will be the end of it
Wish I had your faith, I don't expect we'll ever be able to model anything remotely close to the rising sun empire league ever again in OOTP
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Old 01-20-2023, 10:33 PM   #143
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LOL... exactly nothing stopping that from happening... it has not but 100% could make you click a box agreeing to the patch with the only other option being to close the game


at which point close the game and start game without interwebs I guess


on the plus side ZERO chance this will be an issue in 24 as that is around the corner... hopefully 109 is the last we hear from 23 and that will be the end of it
Oh yah. After this s^^tstorm, I'm pretty sure Markus and the devs and the rest of those who care about the game really want to move on to 24 ASAP. Like. Now.
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Old 01-20-2023, 11:13 PM   #144
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Mine was in the middle of a season. Teams from all over the world, Over 200 teams, thousands with minors. All scrambled. Even the MLB teams and players were scrambled. When originally set up, i had included all leagues at league setup. MLB, (redacted league), Mexican league, all independants were all deleted on the first league day.. This was purely a custom league. Custom region. Maybe 10 teams were kept from (redacted league) with more custom teams being in the Japan division than were brought over. There was no warning upon league opening, no pop ups upon game opening, like they do with their gambling part of the game. Hundreds of hours of game setup, region setup, draft region setup, logos, team names, player names.....NONE of it the same.

The team I control, the St. Louis Cardinals, its now the Mexico City Sunrays. So good thing we got that MLB license. The (redacted league) was imported upon original file creation, but no longer existed. A handful of teams, less than 5 percent of the league, caused them to scramble everything. The League (World Baseball Org.) had all MLB teams, all KBO teams, handful of ***, all Mexican teams, and about 150 custom teams that were created all from custom....Everything scrambled, not just the redacted league stuff. So please....someone tell me that this was handled ok and with thought, and there was no other option. That I should be fine with moving on from that to another league....that OOTPD wasn't just looking out for their own interests.
In your case licensed MLB teams and players got scrambled? If So that isn't good at all,and is exactly the concern I had might occur with MLB saves,this also shows the scrambling bug they issued was not properly tested.

If This is what is happening here is licensed MLB teams and players are getting scrambled when they shouldn't,then COM2US has definetley done wrong in this case,and I think it is time Markus buy back the buisness from them and inform them their services are no longer required.
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Old 01-20-2023, 11:14 PM   #145
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Simple dream I feel is that they see how this was managed, and pony up for the license in 24. I mean, it sucks, but I can live without the league, for a couple months. (seems like even mentioning the league is censored i guess). Them editing saves seems like one of the only feasible way to get rid of *all* the unlicensed content.

I think more focus should be based around selling us a product they didn't have the license for though. Isn't that a fraudulent act? Like literal copyright infringement?
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Old 01-20-2023, 11:26 PM   #146
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Not every opinion needs to be countered.
Odd way to end your post considering you have nine total forum posts since July and one of them is out to the blue to take a shot at me for a lighthearted joke I made about a nuclear accident causing a baseball league to move from Japan to South Africa, three of which are specifically to attack me personally (and not what I'm saying, but me as a person) in this thread, and one is to attack me personally and speculate as to whether I am the same person as someone else you disagree with in another thread.

I'd request that you just leave me alone please. You obviously don't agree with what I'm saying and that's fine, but the personal attacks are completely uncalled for and are genuinely upsetting me and ruining my evening. This is supposed to be a fun forum to discuss a game we all enjoy. The personal attacks are completely unnecessary.

To the rest of y'all, I hope you find a way to rekindle the enjoyment you once had for OOTP if this patch has ruined some of that for you. See y'all around, probably going to be taking a break from the forum for a while, seeing as this completely killed my Friday night and really bummed me out, and I don't need that.

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Old 01-20-2023, 11:31 PM   #147
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Simple dream I feel is that they see how this was managed, and pony up for the license in 24. I mean, it sucks, but I can live without the league, for a couple months. (seems like even mentioning the league is censored i guess). Them editing saves seems like one of the only feasible way to get rid of *all* the unlicensed content.

I think more focus should be based around selling us a product they didn't have the license for though. Isn't that a fraudulent act? Like literal copyright infringement?

If the 2nd and 3rd hand news is true around here, then there is no license to pony up for. It's been said that Konami has an exclusive license with the league in question.
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Old 01-20-2023, 11:32 PM   #148
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Old 01-20-2023, 11:34 PM   #149
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Odd way to end your post considering you have nine total forum posts since July and one of them is out to the blue to take a shot at me for a lighthearted joke I made about a nuclear accident causing a baseball league to move from Japan to South Africa, three of which are specifically to attack me personally (and not what I'm saying, but me as a person) in this thread, and one is to attack me personally and speculate as to whether I am the same person as someone else you disagree with in another thread.

I'd request that you just leave me alone please. You obviously don't agree with what I'm saying and that's fine, but the personal attacks are completely uncalled for and are genuinely upsetting me and ruining my evening. This is supposed to be a fun forum to discuss a game we all enjoy. The personal attacks are completely unnecessary.

To the rest of y'all, I hope you find a way to rekindle the enjoyment you once had for OOTP if this patch has ruined some of that for you. See y'all around, probably going to be taking a break from the forum for a while, seeing as this completely killed my Friday night and really bummed me out, and I don't need that.
I hope you don't feel this is an attack as well, but if you just stopped coming into th3 threads like this, you might be less bummed. You're not gonna come in here and change the minds of A) the people that are still mad or B) like me want some guidance as what we can still do with that country fictionally . You aren't gonna fix this for either group.
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To the rest of y'all, I hope you find a way to rekindle the enjoyment you once had for OOTP if this patch has ruined some of that for you. See y'all around, probably going to be taking a break from the forum for a while, seeing as this completely killed my Friday night and really bummed me out, and I don't need that.
Bring on PT24!
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Old 01-20-2023, 11:45 PM   #151
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Getting a little chesty in here boys... Tighten up.
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Come on over to the discord, people could care less about this over there.

Bring on PT24!
It is nice and cozy over there... fire's lit, we got some smooth jazz playing in the background, and these lawn police are nowhere to be found... no hamfisted demands, no false equivalencies, no sudden outbursts of anger due to clear cognitive decline... secrets out now though.

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In your case licensed MLB teams and players got scrambled? If So that isn't good at all,and is exactly the concern I had might occur with MLB saves,this also shows the scrambling bug they issued was not properly tested.



If This is what is happening here is licensed MLB teams and players are getting scrambled when they shouldn't,then COM2US has definetley done wrong in this case,and I think it is time Markus buy back the buisness from them and inform them their services are no longer required.
All teams and players scrambled. Around 6-10 *** teams were in my World baseball league of 200+ teams. All fictional and MLB teams were scrambled in the same league. It wasn't just the data they said. Just because I kept a couple of team names in a custom league everything is gone. So if you don't have the *** in its own separate league, everything gets wiped.

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It is nice and cozy over there... fire's lit, we got some smooth jazz playing in the background, and these lawn police are nowhere to be found... no hamfisted demands, no false equivalencies, no sudden outbursts of anger due to clear cognitive decline... secrets out now though.

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Thanks for letting me know. When we get that AIM group up and running, I'll send you out an AOL floppy disc so you can join in on the fun!
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Thanks for letting me know. When we get that AIM group up and running, I'll send you out an AOL floppy disc so you can join in on the fun!
Now that would be hilarious
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You don't need to download the patch, though...
Tell that to Steam.


After some testing it's very interesting how it choses to randomize. Deleting the Nippon league and making everyone a FA and no randomize. Changing the country but adding Fictional to the team and League names and it still randomizes, but change league and team names and it leaves it alone. So we can have a league based in Japan just not using the League or Team names.

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Oh no. Not letting you away with that BS.
And you DO know what I mean.
You have offered plenty of good insight/opinions/direction on multiple threads and much of it has been appreciated by the vast majority of forum participants, I'm sure. Myself included.
But anytime it comes to criticism of the game, I can clearly predict in advance where you will stand. And the deeper the debate goes, the more you dig in your heels......
....to the point where, IMHO, all objectivity disappears and, in the two most recent posts I quoted, there is absolutely no value. The posts are actually beneath you. There is no substance. They are just irrelevant responses to those who view things differently because you feel need to retort....or something. I guess.
They have no calories. They carry no weight. In fact, the second one is entirely factually incorrect. It has everything to do with Com2Us.
Let it go.
This forum isn't going to change a damned thing. Those who feel abused are justified, at least to some extent, IMO. Let them vent.
That won't change a damned thing either but hopefully they can get it off their chests.
Not every opinion needs to be countered.
1. Agreed. We all recognize who are the water-carriers. I learned to not engage on these topics, as attempts at rational discourse are futile in the face of agenda and intellectual dishonesty. Any time given is time wasted, and does nothing but demean genuine efforts and observations.

2. Look back over several threads: the inflationary curve in his claims for the year-over-year improvements to OOTPB would make the Weimar Republic blush.
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