Is there a pitch count issue

AngelsFan68 · 12-25-2022, 01:41 PM

I've played over a dozen games and it seams like the number of pitches my pitchers throw is way more than the pitchers of the AI opponents. Always by the 4th inning, my pitcher has thrown more than 70 pitches yet my opponents are like 25 to 45. Is there a setting that I have on or off?

MathBandit · 12-25-2022, 03:03 PM

25 pitches is completely unheard of for 4 innings. 45 is possible if the pitcher is particularly good and efficient, but the fact you're giving the range of 25-45 makes me think something is off somewhere for you.

AngelsFan68 · 12-25-2022, 03:10 PM

I've been keeping 9 relievers in my bullpen because my pitchers will reach 90+ by the 5th inning consistently. I'm thinking maybe its because I don't have it on pitch by pitch mode. I also haven't been using pitch around nor pitch to contact. It's too far unbalanced between user and AI. I didn't notice this in OOTP22. Maybe I'll switch back.

Bobfather · 12-25-2022, 05:50 PM

How is there control? Bad control will mean more pitches. Also are you playing out or simming?

AngelsFan68 · 12-25-2022, 05:57 PM

Of my rotation, they are 65, 50, 55, 45 and 45. I play out the games, but don't do pitch by pitch. Maybe I'll try that and see what happens.

AngelsFan68 · 12-25-2022, 06:18 PM

Played through 3 innings, my pitcher threw 49 pitches with 3 hits against and 4 K's. Opponent threw 57 pitches with 3 hits and 1 walk against and 1 K. Maybe you were on to something with playing pbp. Thanks

Bobfather · 12-25-2022, 07:43 PM

First 12 games of season? How much did they pitch in ST?

fredbeene · 12-25-2022, 08:27 PM

Someone can just sim 100 seasons and run a report on pitches per inning for each player and season, right?

pgjocki · 12-26-2022, 01:40 PM

I play out a lot of games and this is why I take pitches until I have 2 strikes otherwise every single AI pitcher will make it to the 7th inning on less than 85 pitches. I don't understand why or how this happens either.

Pelican · 12-26-2022, 03:40 PM

Do you use the pitch location/speed widget? I play in one-pitch mode, but use the widget, to see how many pitches were thrown, speed, location. Frequently, guys will foul off multiple offspeed pitches. That can add to the pitch count, even where the guy is throwing effectively. It seems to happen more with “nibblers” than with power pitchers, which makes sense to me. Of course, power guys will throw more balls, and thus higher pitch counts for that reason. I don’t think your totals are that unusual, unless it is Greg Maddux pitching. The widget is a great way to monitor what is going on - for both hurlers.

Sweed · 12-28-2022, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pgjocki

I play out a lot of games and this is why I take pitches until I have 2 strikes otherwise every single AI pitcher will make it to the 7th inning on less than 85 pitches. I don't understand why or how this happens either.

I play out all of my games and do not see this with AI pitchers. :shrug:

12-25-2022, 01:41 PM	#1
AngelsFan68 Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Anaheim Posts: 16	Is there a pitch count issue I've played over a dozen games and it seams like the number of pitches my pitchers throw is way more than the pitchers of the AI opponents. Always by the 4th inning, my pitcher has thrown more than 70 pitches yet my opponents are like 25 to 45. Is there a setting that I have on or off?

12-25-2022, 05:50 PM	#4
Bobfather Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Boston Ma. Posts: 2,000	How is there control? Bad control will mean more pitches. Also are you playing out or simming? __________________ I play out every game—one pitch mode.

12-25-2022, 07:43 PM	#7
Bobfather Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Boston Ma. Posts: 2,000	First 12 games of season? How much did they pitch in ST? __________________ I play out every game—one pitch mode.

12-26-2022, 01:40 PM	#9
pgjocki All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Maryland - just outside DC Posts: 1,682	I play out a lot of games and this is why I take pitches until I have 2 strikes otherwise every single AI pitcher will make it to the 7th inning on less than 85 pitches. I don't understand why or how this happens either. __________________ - - - World Series championships: 1926, 1931, 1934, 1942, 1944, 1946, 1964, 1967, 1982, 2006, 2011

12-26-2022, 03:40 PM	#10
Pelican Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Wilmington, Delaware Posts: 3,289	Do you use the pitch location/speed widget? I play in one-pitch mode, but use the widget, to see how many pitches were thrown, speed, location. Frequently, guys will foul off multiple offspeed pitches. That can add to the pitch count, even where the guy is throwing effectively. It seems to happen more with “nibblers” than with power pitchers, which makes sense to me. Of course, power guys will throw more balls, and thus higher pitch counts for that reason. I don’t think your totals are that unusual, unless it is Greg Maddux pitching. The widget is a great way to monitor what is going on - for both hurlers. __________________ Pelican OOTP 2020-? ”Hard to believe, Harry.” Last edited by Pelican; 12-26-2022 at 03:41 PM.

12-25-2022, 03:03 PM	#2
MathBandit All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 1,448	25 pitches is completely unheard of for 4 innings. 45 is possible if the pitcher is particularly good and efficient, but the fact you're giving the range of 25-45 makes me think something is off somewhere for you.

12-25-2022, 03:10 PM	#3
AngelsFan68 Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Anaheim Posts: 16	I've been keeping 9 relievers in my bullpen because my pitchers will reach 90+ by the 5th inning consistently. I'm thinking maybe its because I don't have it on pitch by pitch mode. I also haven't been using pitch around nor pitch to contact. It's too far unbalanced between user and AI. I didn't notice this in OOTP22. Maybe I'll switch back.

12-25-2022, 05:57 PM	#5
AngelsFan68 Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Anaheim Posts: 16	Of my rotation, they are 65, 50, 55, 45 and 45. I play out the games, but don't do pitch by pitch. Maybe I'll try that and see what happens.

12-25-2022, 06:18 PM	#6
AngelsFan68 Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Anaheim Posts: 16	Played through 3 innings, my pitcher threw 49 pitches with 3 hits against and 4 K's. Opponent threw 57 pitches with 3 hits and 1 walk against and 1 K. Maybe you were on to something with playing pbp. Thanks

12-25-2022, 08:27 PM	#8
fredbeene All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,690 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Someone can just sim 100 seasons and run a report on pitches per inning for each player and season, right?