I can't develop players anymore

[iuliasunshine]

Well I'm a veteran OOTP player, have 1000s of hours since 19 came around. I just bought 23 a couple weeks ago and I'm having a really hard time.

I'll mention my current save, which has been giving me tons of headaches. I'm a few years into it and I just can't develop any prospects. I've spent 36M in player development and 24M in scouting in every season, have a good highly favor tools scout since day 1, all of my minor league coaches are either good, excellent or outstanding in teaching. All managers are excellent or better in development, morale in the minors is great, they're winning games, having positive records and fighting for their respective playoffs every year. Still, I can't develop anyone. I draft a player and a year later their potential is gone, doesn't matter if they played well or not, neither does the age. I've paid millinos upon millions in draftees for them to just drop from a 60 potential to a 40 in one offseason.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong with them, I've been patient, kept everyone in every level happy and still they just plummet. Only 2 players I drafted made the majors. One is a utility guy and the other a late round starter that got hit with good TCR, pitched 2 games in the majors had a 15 ERA and went down and hasn't come back.

And worse, this is affecting my major leagues as well, but I guess it's the aging. I have my pitcher and batter aging at .900 and in the last season I had 4 major leaguers turning 28, all of them regressed massively in their ratings. All my major league coaches have at least excellent handle aging. We're a playoff team, morale is ecstatic. I'll show what I mean. Strating pitcher, 55/65/65 last 3 seasons finished top 3 in cy young, winning one. When he turned 28 his ratings became 55/50/55 and had a 5 ERA in half a season before I got rid of him. My starting RF, from a 60/65/55/55/55 to a 50/55/55/55/50. No reason. Starting shortstop lost 5 in contact but more importantly 10 in avoid k's. from 80 to 70. And a setup reliever went from an 80/65/50 to a 70/60/45 after having a 1.70 ERA as a 27yo. All these players just went down at the same age in the same season.

How can I have coaches with amazing ratings, spend the max in development and scouting, keep everyone happy and I can't develop players nor keep my major leaguers from aging at such a young age? That has never happened to me in all those years playing this game. My whole strategy is developing through the draft and trading. My draftees stink after a year and I can't trade anyone because no team wants my bad prospects, my window is closing and there's nothing I can do besides let everyone go and I have no replacements.

Any help/insight would be much much appreciated.

[locuspc]

Prospects bust out. There's nothing you can do about it. You can maximize the chances of the prospects developing but no matter what you do very few prospects will reach their full potential. This is just the reality of baseball. I would recommend drafting players that are already somewhat polished over the raw highschooler with 20s in all his stats but great potential. Or at least if you draft the highschooler, know what you're getting into.

The potential model has been changed in 23 compared to what you're used to. Potential is now expressed more like a maximum possible development, rather than an expected development. You might have noticed prospects seeming "better", with higher rated potentials, than in past versions? The prospects aren't actually more likely to develop, it's just a change in what potential means.

[fredbeene]

Originally Posted by iuliasunshine

Well I'm a veteran OOTP player, have 1000s of hours since 19 came around. I just bought 23 a couple weeks ago and I'm having a really hard time.

I'll mention my current save, which has been giving me tons of headaches. I'm a few years into it and I just can't develop any prospects. I've spent 36M in player development and 24M in scouting in every season, have a good highly favor tools scout since day 1, all of my minor league coaches are either good, excellent or outstanding in teaching. All managers are excellent or better in development, morale in the minors is great, they're winning games, having positive records and fighting for their respective playoffs every year. Still, I can't develop anyone. I draft a player and a year later their potential is gone, doesn't matter if they played well or not, neither does the age. I've paid millinos upon millions in draftees for them to just drop from a 60 potential to a 40 in one offseason.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong with them, I've been patient, kept everyone in every level happy and still they just plummet. Only 2 players I drafted made the majors. One is a utility guy and the other a late round starter that got hit with good TCR, pitched 2 games in the majors had a 15 ERA and went down and hasn't come back.

And worse, this is affecting my major leagues as well, but I guess it's the aging. I have my pitcher and batter aging at .900 and in the last season I had 4 major leaguers turning 28, all of them regressed massively in their ratings. All my major league coaches have at least excellent handle aging. We're a playoff team, morale is ecstatic. I'll show what I mean. Strating pitcher, 55/65/65 last 3 seasons finished top 3 in cy young, winning one. When he turned 28 his ratings became 55/50/55 and had a 5 ERA in half a season before I got rid of him. My starting RF, from a 60/65/55/55/55 to a 50/55/55/55/50. No reason. Starting shortstop lost 5 in contact but more importantly 10 in avoid k's. from 80 to 70. And a setup reliever went from an 80/65/50 to a 70/60/45 after having a 1.70 ERA as a 27yo. All these players just went down at the same age in the same season.

How can I have coaches with amazing ratings, spend the max in development and scouting, keep everyone happy and I can't develop players nor keep my major leaguers from aging at such a young age? That has never happened to me in all those years playing this game. My whole strategy is developing through the draft and trading. My draftees stink after a year and I can't trade anyone because no team wants my bad prospects, my window is closing and there's nothing I can do besides let everyone go and I have no replacements.

Any help/insight would be much much appreciated.

players over 29 are trashed....that is why if you import a season with PEAK seasons on, anyone over 29 PEAK would be the import season if they played better IRL at an older age.
Reported for 10 years......they say its a feature not a bug

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by fredbeene

players over 29 are trashed....that is why if you import a season with PEAK seasons on, anyone over 29 PEAK would be the import season if they played better IRL at an older age.
Reported for 10 years......they say its a feature not a bug

Could you explain this further?

[Pelican]

Originally Posted by MeredithVentura

Your advice is of course relative, a high school student does not mean a player with low potential. Or maybe I misunderstood you?

In my experience, a high school player can have high potential, but would have farther to go, and thus more variation, relative to a college kid. So, yeah, a high school prospect can have great potential, but he is a long way from realizing it. Not only must you wait years longer, but he might flame out along the way. College draft picks are no sure thing, but they are much closer to MLB ready. I like drafting college stars from a good conference like the SEC, because they are so much further along in their development. A high school player with great potential is still a high risk draft pick.