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Old 09-02-2022, 11:43 AM   #3161
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CD, you are a good and faithful servant of Jesus.
You trust and depend on Jesus to take care of you.

Each morning ask Him to guide your path for the day... ask Him to lead you to work on the project for the day... ask him to help you select realistic things in your life... ask Him to make your life simpler and less complicated.

And He will direct your every step on the pathway of your life.
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Old 09-02-2022, 11:46 AM   #3162
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Create a simple map of Slaabovia today with only the major geographical points on it... the towns, the seas, the rivers and the key regions.

Limit the number of them... do not clutter it up with lots of details... just put the basics on it.

Do this and you will have overcome a basic hurdle in writing your novel.

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Old 09-02-2022, 12:00 PM   #3163
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CD, my sister and brother have tough lives... they are in bad health and will probably be this way for the rest of their lives.

I know it is easy for me to say as I am in pretty good health... I told them both this week that they needed to face their lives as they are... it sucks in general for them... but they must live with it... the only thing they could do to improve the situation was to put on a happy face and a positive attitude... they can take the lemons of life and wallow in their pity and pain... or they can make the "proverbial lemonade".

CD, suck it up... put a smile on your face... the love of Jesus in your heart... don't hurry, don't worry, remember to smell the flowers... and make lots and lots of lemonade in your life.

May Our Loving Creator bless and guide us all today.
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I can't do it today, unfortunately, but hopefully by the time I finish chapter 16, I'll have at least a halfway decent map of the Cirriddiquan/Slaabovian homeland done, somehow, one way or another. That's if enough goes sufficiently according to plan, of course, I think, you know. I have not been able to translate what I might have on paper yet to any computer files well enough yet, though, if I ever will be able to, unfortunately.

Thank you for the advice and all, in any case, EC. I certainly will consider it, you know, as best as I can, and as often as I can. I really would like to see this story get done once and for all, as soon as possible, and as best as possible. Although I still would definitely expect that it will take at least a few more months and a few more drafts of the story to finally get it in a suitable enough form for possible publication later on, Lord willing and all, of course. CD out.
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Old 09-02-2022, 12:14 PM   #3165
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But when you really think about it, even writing novels, for instance, is not as important in this life as doing our Lord's will, and doing what He wishes for us each to do in our own respective mortal lives, according to the plans that He's made for each of us to fulfill in those lives of ours, for as long as we each can. All while using the various talents He's chosen to bless each of us with in them, that is.

There are a lot of things I'll never be in this life, for sure, that I might have once wanted to be when I was much younger than I am now. But I have wanted to write ever since I was fifteen years old, at least, if not even earlier than that. I didn't really start writing until I was fifteen, in truth. And unfortunately, for various reasons, in certain writing-related aspects, I'm still not much improved in terms of my writing since then. I don't like it, but that's still the case for me in at least some respects, to be sure.

I can write moderately well, but I'll probably need to make a lot more improvement in certain areas of writing to actually produce something potentially worth publishing for professional monetary profit, at least, I think. I'm great at spelling, generally, and have a good vocabulary, if not also good grammar. But my frequent verbosity and frequent lack of general conciseness is something that definitely needs some major work on in terms of my writing abilities and all here, it seems to me. Also I tend to often get rather bogged down with details, it seems, in my stories, unfortunately, when I shouldn't necessarily be.

Hopefully, by the time Lighting Up the Darkness's final draft gets done later on, if if ever does, for instance, I'll have something honestly worth reading here for people, you know. But until that time comes, if it ever does, there's still quite a lot of work left to be done on it, Lord willing and all, of course, for sure. CD out.
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Old 09-02-2022, 12:27 PM   #3166
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I generally am content, actually, in my life, EC. If and when my parents leave, I don't think I'll actually need much to keep me that way, as long as I am taken care of well enough, come what may in my life. I trust God will certainly take care of me, no matter what happens to or around me in my life, if and when my parents leave this world behind. True, I may not be able to keep everything I now have around me in my life, of course, but as long as I have at least my basic needs met and all, that would be fine with me, I think.

I'm not currently attached to anyone else like many people are now in their own lives, so I could probably move around at least a little bit easier than many others might be able to in certain circumstances, even if I couldn't potentially drive anywhere under normal enough ones. I would probably have to leave a lot of things behind, of course, if I had to move somewhere quicker, but I wouldn't likely be able to take them with me when I moved around anyway. Besides, they'd just be things, things I couldn't even take with me into the next life either, for that matter, you know.

It is likely my parents won't last another five to ten or so years, perhaps, given their likely or actual current or near-future health issues. It is yet-unknown, as well, if they'll still be around when Jesus comes to collect His own, probably within the next ten to twenty years of history, if not sooner than that. I don't think we'll see 2035 come and go before all that must happen in this world actually comes to pass as it must, though, in truth. Of course, I could be wrong about that, but that's just how I feel about certain matters related to Christ and the future, at present. CD out.
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Old 09-02-2022, 01:01 PM   #3167
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Good... I am so glad to hear that you are happy and content.

As you know, that contentment comes from God.
If we are content and satisfied in all circumstances... the good times and the bad times... our Creator will give us the "peace that surpasses all understanding".

"Don't Worry... Be Happy".

Here a song for you from Bobby McFerrin... it was a #1 in 1988... it was the Grammy's Song of the Year and Record of the Year.

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Old 09-02-2022, 01:18 PM   #3168
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The world is changing greatly as more and more time passes, and faster and faster, it seems, in many areas of the world. And not necessarily for the better, either, in many places, for sure. In due time, there will be great troubles raging over the entire world, and it's really going to get hairy, so to speak, for a lot of people, once they start doing so well enough. Supposing they haven't already started doing so by now, you know.

However, these things must happen before Jesus can return to collect His own, in any case, most definitely. Meanwhile, as long as we still haven't completed our work that He has given each of us to do in this world of His, there's still much we need to do, no matter what it is, and where it is that we have to do it, et cetera. And certain things have to be true before He can finally return here to Earth, as well, for that matter.

In my case, however, I will still continue to do whatever I possibly can to do His will to the best of my abilities as a mere mortal human being, even as imperfect as I still am, for sure. No matter where that is in this world of ours, or when He might wish me to do certain things in it, et cetera, I still will. However, it is not by works of my own that I will ultimately be saved, but only by His grace through the shedding of His precious Blood on Calvary's Cross, lest I were somehow ever foolish enough to boast pridefully in my works, past, present, and/or future. Which, of course, I never want to do, and have never wanted to do, et cetera, for that matter. CD out.
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Old 09-02-2022, 02:00 PM   #3169
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Actually, I think many people are increasingly more concerned with certain real-world issues in many respects now than they ever once used to be in their lives, when they do a lot of considering of certain recent world events and all. This will probably continue to be the case for them all here, then. Even as more and more time passes for each of them in their own respective lives, whether they've ever played OOTP and/or FHM games here or not, I think.

With the way things have begun to be in the world of late, I think it quite likely that the average daily views of many threads on these forums will eventually decline quite a bit, if not entirely, over a certain period of time, EC. That's if they haven't already begun to do so permanently enough by now, of course. In any case, we'll all have to see what else might happen for each and every single one of us in the future, as best as we each can and whenever we each can, for that matter. Lord willing and all, you know, for sure.

What you are seeing now in direct enough relation to your various threads here, at least, is probably a fairly direct result of those often-unexpected and often-unplanned changes in many people's lives as they might each then be affected by them. At least when it comes to thread-related daily views, for instance, for your IPA and certain other dynasty threads here on the forums, for instance, at least in part, if not entirely, anyway. Of course, I could be wrong about that here, but somehow, I don't really think I am here, for sure, EC.

I'm not at all worried at all here about the future, though, for sure. Simply because I most definitely know WHO holds the future, and I know He will make everything turn out properly as He feels He needs to and all. Thank God for that, for sure, in any case. CD out.
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Old 09-02-2022, 03:30 PM   #3170
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For me, recently, I find myself on these forums more, and playing OOTP more frequently, as an escape. The politics of everything nowadays is very troubling and depressing. I can only pay attention to it for a little bit before getting angry and upset. So I've been playing OOTP, playing and listening to music, and watching favorite tv shows and movies to feel better.
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For me, reading the Bible, meditating on God's Word, and doing whatever else comes to mind, as the Lord leads, is what I always try to do. Of course, I still make mistakes of various kinds in my life, seeing as I'm still an imperfect human being, but at least I try to do what I should as best as I can, as the Lord may lead and/or inspire me to do in my life, with anyone or anything in it.

I don't fear the future, although I do get concerned quite often about people or things in this world, of course. Much of what one typically might hear periodically from many major media people is actually wrong, in various ways, for much of what they say is essentially a pack of lies, more or less. Not all, but much, for sure, in any case. Many so-called celebrities also don't seem to know a great deal about the various subjects they may often talk about, too, I think, or don't seem to care all that much about what is really true about such things, perhaps.

Yes, we should always try to be informed and aware of what's going on, but it's often getting much harder to find out the real truth about many people or things in this world too, it seems, for various reasons. That's not good, but unfortunately, it's just the way things are now, evidently, all over the world, in many places. It's definitely going to get worse as more time passes in this world, until everything happens as it must, I think, unfortunately. Ultimately, though, real truth will definitely win out once and for all, whether or not certain other people like it or not, for sure. And what a day it will be when all is made right in this world once and for all, or in the world to come, at that! CD out.
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I no longer watch the evening newscasts... we don't have journalists any longer... they are entertainers that are ratings-driven... it is hard to get facts and truth these days... news is all about fluff news with little emphasis on journalism and the facts.

The local newspapers have always been the best source for the news... however, newspapers are a dying breed... sadly, people are not reading them like they used to... advertisers are not supporting newspapers... therefore we have fewer and few reporters to go out and get the facts for us and to report them.

I see it in my daily paper that I look at and read cover-to-cover... fewer and fewer staff as the years go by... and the young reporters are not yet journalists... the newspapers have been downsizing for 10 years... the first to go are the better-paid older journalists.... you see this in TV, too... no old-time journalists are left on TV... just inexperienced youngsters that will work for low wages just to be on the air.

Enough about real life... let's get back to the unreal world of OOTP Baseball.

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Old 09-05-2022, 12:36 PM   #3173
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CD, if you have any questions about the Freeman Brothers, just post it here in your thread... it is not necessary to post it on the South Island or IPA threads.

I look at this thread almost daily.

I will put Gordon and Arthyr back on a team in the South Island League... they are still in the Islandian Pro Alliance.
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I put Gordon Freeman on a team that needed a pitcher... he will play for the Braxton Bruins in the South Island Secondary League.

Arthyr Freeman will play the outfield for the Billings Rams in the South Island Secondary League.

I post the complete box score in my South Island League dynasty thread... you can follow them there game-by-game... I will post their season stats at midseason (7 games) and also at the end of the season.

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jg2977, you can certainly add new leagues to an existing game. I've done it quite a few times before in multiple versions of OOTP, up through 21, at least, if memory serves me correctly here. To get their champions or certain other teams to play together in an overall championship series or tournament, though, you'll definitely have to have an association created which the relevant leagues are part of for that purpose.

What you do, when you want them to start playing together in a postseason tournament against each other and/or other leagues' champions, is to create an association. Then you choose the leagues to be part of that association. Then you set up the postseason tournament as you like and all. Ultimately, if all then goes according to plan, you should be able to get the desired results at the end of the relevant postseason series or tournament here. Just so you know. CD out.
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jg2977, you can certainly add new leagues to an existing game. I've done it quite a few times before in multiple versions of OOTP, up through 21, at least, if memory serves me correctly here. To get their champions or certain other teams to play together in an overall championship series or tournament, though, you'll definitely have to have an association created which the relevant leagues are part of for that purpose.

What you do, when you want them to start playing together in a postseason tournament against each other and/or other leagues' champions, is to create an association. Then you choose the leagues to be part of that association. Then you set up the postseason tournament as you like and all. Ultimately, if all then goes according to plan, you should be able to get the desired results at the end of the relevant postseason series or tournament here. Just so you know. CD out.
Thanks for the information. I do see in the manual how to add a new league within my existing dynasty, but I'm not sure how to create an association between the IPA and MLB. I don't plan on doing this until 1901, but maybe you can walk me through the process in the meantime so that I learn how to do that.

On second thought, if I learn how, then maybe I'll add the association for next season. That would be fun.

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I'd start the MLB in 1901 as you were actually planning to do here, if I were you. You're already past 1876 when the National League started, after all.

Sure, I can walk you through the process of creating an association between leagues, or even adding leagues, for your dynasty, as well, jg2977. While I don't yet have 23, but am only up to 22, I think the process of doing so in 23 isn't that much different, if at all, from the league and/or association creation process in prior versions of OOTP, of course.

The tab you'll want to click on after you load your game is the Game tab. That should then allow you to go to Game Settings or Create League Association, for instance, among other possible options under that tab. You can then click on the options you choose to click on, and go from there as you can and want.

Game Settings will take you to a screen for Global Settings and all. At the top right, you will see Global Actions, with a pulldown menu. That pulldown menu will give you four options to choose from, if and when you so choose. And you can go from there as the need or desire or inclination then strikes you, of course.

As for Associations, if you don't have one yet in your game, Create League Association shouldn't be grayed out. If you do, however, it is. If it is, you go to the chosen association, and there will then be various tabs, perhaps with subtabs of their own, of course, as well. Those subtabs will lead to more information or potential options for you to consider and all, for that matter, just so you know.

The main tabs, at least in 22, for Associations are Association, Association Setup & Options, and Add / Remove Leagues. They each will allow you to see certain information, or do certain things, of course.

The first main tab Association has six subtabs, as follows:

Overview (shows all leagues in the association, with playoff history, if applicable)
Playoffs (shows playoff tree, and perhaps championship brackets as more time passes for every year)
Batting Leaders (for the current season only, I believe)
Pitching Leaders (for the current season only, I believe)
Fielding Leaders (for the current season only, I believe)
Sortable Stats (players list, at least, I believe, for all players currently on member teams part of the relevant organization)

You can set up the relevant Association's standard rules and all by going through the second main tab. In the top right corner at the same level as the main tabs, under the second tab, you can select a certain Association you want to work with, delete a certain association, or create a new association.

The third main tab for Associations lets you set which leagues are part of the currently-relevant association, either by adding them or removing them, it seems. In your case, when the proper time comes, and you create the appropriate association, you can choose which leagues to add to it, or remove from it, as you like and can. For you it would be the IPA and MLB, at least, you know, jg2977, if not other leagues as well. Once you have at least two leagues in the relevant Association, you can then set up playoffs between them as you like and can.

I would recommend that only league champions should be able to advance to the Association's playoffs, of course, for simplicity's sake, at least. Of course, the more leagues you add to the Association, the more rounds you will have to add, and the shorter the resulting playoff series would have to be, most likely.

As for adding new nations to your game world for any of your dynasties, you'd have to go through Game/Explore World, at least. Then you'd have to click on a nation, say Australia, for instance, before going to the Nation Editor tab. IF you wanted to create another nation, you'd then click on Add a new nation.

That would then likely send you to another screen, where you could then input certain nation-related details, such as the cities and areas, for instance, then present for that particular nation. You could then also set ethnicity/language/name origins then as desired and as possible, adding certain languages/name origins to the applicable nation through the Add a language option, until you are sufficiently satisfied with the number of languages present for the nation in question. If you have created flags appropriately sized (roughly 70 pixels by 47 pixels) with the appropriate designations listed for them in their respective nation profiles, the next time you load the relevant dynasty, they should appear on the appropriate nations' lines under the applicable tab for Explore World, I think.

Hope all this information helps you out quite a bit here, of course, jg2977. Please let me know if it does, you know, then. CD out.
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I'd start the MLB in 1901 as you were actually planning to do here, if I were you. You're already past 1876 when the National League started, after all.

Sure, I can walk you through the process of creating an association between leagues, or even adding leagues, for your dynasty, as well, jg2977. While I don't yet have 23, but am only up to 22, I think the process of doing so in 23 isn't that much different, if at all, from the league and/or association creation process in prior versions of OOTP, of course.

The tab you'll want to click on after you load your game is the Game tab. That should then allow you to go to Game Settings or Create League Association, for instance, among other possible options under that tab. You can then click on the options you choose to click on, and go from there as you can and want.

Game Settings will take you to a screen for Global Settings and all. At the top right, you will see Global Actions, with a pulldown menu. That pulldown menu will give you four options to choose from, if and when you so choose. And you can go from there as the need or desire or inclination then strikes you, of course.

As for Associations, if you don't have one yet in your game, Create League Association shouldn't be grayed out. If you do, however, it is. If it is, you go to the chosen association, and there will then be various tabs, perhaps with subtabs of their own, of course, as well. Those subtabs will lead to more information or potential options for you to consider and all, for that matter, just so you know.

The main tabs, at least in 22, for Associations are Association, Association Setup & Options, and Add / Remove Leagues. They each will allow you to see certain information, or do certain things, of course.

The first main tab Association has six subtabs, as follows:

Overview (shows all leagues in the association, with playoff history, if applicable)
Playoffs (shows playoff tree, and perhaps championship brackets as more time passes for every year)
Batting Leaders (for the current season only, I believe)
Pitching Leaders (for the current season only, I believe)
Fielding Leaders (for the current season only, I believe)
Sortable Stats (players list, at least, I believe, for all players currently on member teams part of the relevant organization)

You can set up the relevant Association's standard rules and all by going through the second main tab. In the top right corner at the same level as the main tabs, under the second tab, you can select a certain Association you want to work with, delete a certain association, or create a new association.

The third main tab for Associations lets you set which leagues are part of the currently-relevant association, either by adding them or removing them, it seems. In your case, when the proper time comes, and you create the appropriate association, you can choose which leagues to add to it, or remove from it, as you like and can. For you it would be the IPA and MLB, at least, you know, jg2977, if not other leagues as well. Once you have at least two leagues in the relevant Association, you can then set up playoffs between them as you like and can.

I would recommend that only league champions should be able to advance to the Association's playoffs, of course, for simplicity's sake, at least. Of course, the more leagues you add to the Association, the more rounds you will have to add, and the shorter the resulting playoff series would have to be, most likely.

As for adding new nations to your game world for any of your dynasties, you'd have to go through Game/Explore World, at least. Then you'd have to click on a nation, say Australia, for instance, before going to the Nation Editor tab. IF you wanted to create another nation, you'd then click on Add a new nation.

That would then likely send you to another screen, where you could then input certain nation-related details, such as the cities and areas, for instance, then present for that particular nation. You could then also set ethnicity/language/name origins then as desired and as possible, adding certain languages/name origins to the applicable nation through the Add a language option, until you are sufficiently satisfied with the number of languages present for the nation in question. If you have created flags appropriately sized (roughly 70 pixels by 47 pixels) with the appropriate designations listed for them in their respective nation profiles, the next time you load the relevant dynasty, they should appear on the appropriate nations' lines under the applicable tab for Explore World, I think.

Hope all this information helps you out quite a bit here, of course, jg2977. Please let me know if it does, you know, then. CD out.
Thank you, this looks like it will be very helpful. I'll probably create a test league and experiment with it first before implementing it in my current dynasty.
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But when you really think about it, even writing novels, for instance, is not as important in this life as doing our Lord's will, and doing what He wishes for us each to do in our own respective mortal lives, according to the plans that He's made for each of us to fulfill in those lives of ours, for as long as we each can. All while using the various talents He's chosen to bless each of us with in them, that is.
Not everyone believes that. I'm surprised you're allowed to talk about religion here. I talked to someone who used to live near me, and I was chastised for taking away from logos...
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I approach many things of a spiritual nature from a strictly or almost strictly theological perspective, if not all of them, not from a religious perspective as you may be thinking I might be doing here in this thread. I have a right to share more about myself within reason in my own threads, just as you do with your threads, whenever and however I so choose, with all due respect to you and/or anyone else here. At least as long as it doesn't harm anyone else, and all, that is, of course.

If you don't actually like what I say, or how I might just say something, then please do either ignore me or disagree with me respectfully and all, as best as you can possibly do either of those things here. It's your choice, and your choice alone here, to put it quite simply, jbird669. But I will not let anyone needlessly tell me I can't share more about myself with others here, if I don't have to, at whatever times I so choose and can do so well enough.

It is not hurting others around here to perhaps get to know me at least a little bit better, around here, and to perhaps often learn how I deal daily with my Asperger's Syndrome, among various other things in my own mortal life, as well, I think. And how God helps me and keeps me sane and healthy and all in it, among other things too.

Of course, not everyone is going to believe just what I believe in my life about various things or people in this world of ours, for sure. That's most definitely an inherent and undeniable given for those of us who've ever lived, do live, and will live, in this world of ours. For we're all entirely different people from each other, because that's how God has made or will make us all, I believe very strongly, for your information. At least as far as it pertains to everyone who's ever lived or does now live or who will live in this world of ours, that is, anyway. This world would be rather boring, to say the least, if we all believed the exact same things and had the exact same life experiences as each other, for instance, you know, at the very least.

Thank you for your time and attention and all here, jbird669. Please do feel free to drop by often, if and when you might like, to see what else I might later produce around here somehow, at least, then. CD out.
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