Wrong pitcher charged with loss

[Art Deco]

Sato was given the loss even though the runner which scored reached on a fielder's choice that eliminated Minier's original runner. By rule the player who scored the winning run is still considered Minier's and he should have been charged with the loss.

[BIG17EASY]

Originally Posted by Art Deco

Sato was given the loss even though the runner which scored reached on a fielder's choice that eliminated Minier's original runner. By rule the player who scored the winning run is still considered Minier's and he should have been charged with the loss.

I've never heard of that rule. The run, and therefor the loss, were correctly charged to Sato as far as I understand the rules. Do you have a specific reference in the rule book that says the run and loss should be Minier's?

[Art Deco]

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

I've never heard of that rule. The run, and therefor the loss, were correctly charged to Sato as far as I understand the rules. Do you have a specific reference in the rule book that says the run and loss should be Minier's?

Right here. I think OOTP is coded for force outs in these situations but not other types of fielder's choices:

MLB Rule 10.18
(g) When pitchers are changed during an inning, the relief pitcher shall not be charged with any run (earned or unearned) scored by a runner who was on base at the time he entered the game, nor for runs scored by any runner who reaches base on a fielder's choice which puts out a runner left on base by the preceding pitcher.
NOTE: It is the intent of this rule to charge each pitcher with the number of runners he put on base, rather than with the individual runners. When a pitcher puts runners on base, and is relieved, he shall be charged with all runs subsequently scored up to and including the number of runners he left on base when he left the game, unless such runners are put out without action by the batter, i.e., caught stealing, picked off base, or called out for interference when a batter runner does not reach first base on the play.

[BIG17EASY]

Originally Posted by Art Deco

Right here. I think OOTP is coded for force outs in these situations but not other types of fielder's choices:

MLB Rule 10.18
(g) When pitchers are changed during an inning, the relief pitcher shall not be charged with any run (earned or unearned) scored by a runner who was on base at the time he entered the game, nor for runs scored by any runner who reaches base on a fielder's choice which puts out a runner left on base by the preceding pitcher.
NOTE: It is the intent of this rule to charge each pitcher with the number of runners he put on base, rather than with the individual runners. When a pitcher puts runners on base, and is relieved, he shall be charged with all runs subsequently scored up to and including the number of runners he left on base when he left the game, unless such runners are put out without action by the batter, i.e., caught stealing, picked off base, or called out for interference when a batter runner does not reach first base on the play.

Thanks. I never knew that.