Why can't we trade people in the middle of a game?

Carplos · 03-12-2002, 04:14 AM

Haven't you ever got so pissed at a player in a game that you felt like trading him?

VT Os fan · 03-12-2002, 05:01 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Carplos:
Haven't you ever got so at a player in a game that you felt like trading him?

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Not me. Everybody has bad days, although I'll put a player on the block after too many bad days.

MLB doesn't allow roster changes while the game is in progress. I do recall a story of players being traded between games in a double header -- they played the first game for one team, then got new unis and played the second for the opposing team.

MizzouRah · 03-12-2002, 05:10 AM

I've gotten so peed of, I've moved a vet down to the minors!

Todd

Khaos · 03-12-2002, 05:38 AM

I've done that too. The damn C in an extremely important 4 game series was whiffing left and right. It seemed no matter where I put him in the order he would be the guy getting runners in scoring position with 2 outs and whiffing away.

He did it so many times I moved his 31 year old veteran ass down to AAA. I would of cut him if he wasn't signed for 3 more years. Hmmmmm, trading block time?

MizzouRah · 03-12-2002, 06:09 AM

[quote]He did it so many times I moved his 31 year old veteran ass down to AAA. I would of cut him if he wasn't signed for 3 more years. Hmmmmm, trading block time?<hr></blockquote>

Hehe! Move his ass down to A and see how he likes to sleep in roach motels!

Todd

marioh · 03-12-2002, 06:11 AM

I've done that with the demotion to the minors as well. Or I just bench the guy indefinetly.

I wonder if the players know they've been put on the trading block in OOTP ? And if they do know, does it effect their performance ?
I've only stuck one of my starters on the trading block, and he really stunk up the joint during the stint on the trading block. I wonder if that was just coincedence.

MizzouRah · 03-12-2002, 07:59 AM

marioh,

I've seen the opposite, so it must be coincedence.

I put Lee Stevens on the trading block and he has been hitting the sheet out of the ball!

Todd

Scott Vibert · 03-12-2002, 08:04 AM

They know, sometimes they send you an email saying they don't want to be traded... or one saying get me the hell out of here...

Heelfan71 · 03-12-2002, 08:08 AM

I benched Charles Johnson due to him striking out 30 times in 80 at bats and with a .076 batting avg. Then I put him on the trading block and he sent me a message asking me to please take him off the trading block and how much he likes playing for me. I felt bad and took him off! I tried trading him for some young prospect catcher, but no one will take him.

marioh · 03-12-2002, 09:00 AM

Good, I'm happy to hear that they do know when they're put on the trading block.

Makes them realize they better shape up or else they'll be getting shipped out.

St.Lunatic · 03-12-2002, 09:42 AM

[quote]Originally posted by VT Os fan:


Not me. Everybody has bad days, although I'll put a player on the block after too many bad days.

MLB doesn't allow roster changes while the game is in progress. I do recall a story of players being traded between games in a double header -- they played the first game for one team, then got new unis and played the second for the opposing team.<hr></blockquote>

When did this trade occur?? What was it all about?

CMH · 03-12-2002, 09:51 AM

that trade occurred early in the 1900's. i dont know exactly when. i read about it in some baseball book about weird baseball stories. i know that theplayers were traded as stated above, and then switched uniforms to play the second half of the game. weird, very weird.

ever hear about the guy that played all nine positions in ONE game? or that old silly rule that lasted i think for one year where a one bouncer in the infield was an automatic out. or how about the time when bases on balls were counted as hits in a batting average. baseball sure has changed alot.

Arbiter · 03-12-2002, 10:06 AM

[quote]Originally posted by YankeePride:

ever hear about the guy that played all nine positions in ONE game?
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Which one of the four (in major league history, at least) are you thinking of?

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or that old silly rule that lasted i think for one year where a one bouncer in the infield was an automatic out.
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This "silly rule" was in effect roughly the first thirty years after the rules were first codified (and it was a one-bouncer *anywhere*; fouls could be caught on the first bounce for an out even after the rule was changed for fair balls).
Try fielding without a glove and you won't think it's so silly.

joshuaaaaaa · 03-12-2002, 10:09 AM

In one of the "strange but true" baseball stories books I read as a kid (back before computers), there was a guy who got both the win and the loss in a game. He was on the mound when a game got called for darkness There were men on base at the time. The game was resumed several months later and, in the interim, he was traded to the opposing team. When the game was resumed, he came in to pitch, some of the runners on base scored. The guy ended up getting the loss for his old team and the win for his new team.

Now, this may be urban legend, and I have no idea of the name of the pitcher involved, however if someone can fill in the details, I'd be interested.

Joshuaaaaaa

inverarity · 03-12-2002, 10:10 AM

Joel Youngblood played for both the Mets and the Expos in the same day, but not in a double header.

I believe he played for the Mets in a day game, the Expos in a night game.

Hard to remember, it was a while ago.

LivnLegend · 03-12-2002, 10:18 AM

[quote]Originally posted by YankeePride:
that trade occurred early in the 1900's. i dont know exactly when. i read about it in some baseball book about weird baseball stories<hr></blockquote>

It did happen in the early part of the 1900's but you may have heard of it more recently. The 1979 the Mets traded for Jose Cardenal in between games of a doubleheader. Cardenal dressed for the Mets in the 2nd game but didn't actually get into the game. Funny thing is, Cardenal is a cousin on one of the guys you also referred to in your post who played all 9 positions in one major league game, Bert Camapaneris!

Max Flack and Cliff Heathcote played for both teams in a doubleheader, having been traded by the Cubs and Cardinals between games in 1922. Here's a link: <a href="http://www.pubdim.net/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/H/Heathcote_Cliff.stm" target="_blank">Unusual Trade</a>

The Tigers traded reliever Todd Jones between games of a doubleheader last season but not to the team the Tigers were playing the doubleheader against.

LivnLegend · 03-12-2002, 10:22 AM

[quote]Originally posted by YankeePride:

ever hear about the guy that played all nine positions in ONE game?<hr></blockquote>

Bert Campaneris, Cesar Tovar, Scott Sheldon, Shane Halter

fluharty · 03-12-2002, 10:31 AM

I also had a guy with C duration as MR & SP who I moved to the pen after calling up a younger player- he asked me top put him back in the rotation or trade him!!! I traded him.

jor31 · 03-12-2002, 11:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by LivnLegend:

Shane Halter<hr></blockquote>

Is that a joke or real? I watch the Tigers (lose) and he is like the Joe McEwing of Detroit.Though he dosent own RJ....

Dwolfson20 · 03-12-2002, 11:39 AM

No joke, Halter did it a couple of years ago.

03-12-2002, 04:14 AM	#1
Carplos Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,847 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Why can't we trade people in the middle of a game? Haven't you ever got so pissed at a player in a game that you felt like trading him?

03-12-2002, 05:01 AM	#2
VT Os fan Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia Tech (Blacksburg, Virginia) Posts: 226	[quote]Originally posted by Carplos: <strong>Haven't you ever got so at a player in a game that you felt like trading him? </strong><hr></blockquote> Not me. Everybody has bad days, although I'll put a player on the block after too many bad days. MLB doesn't allow roster changes while the game is in progress. I do recall a story of players being traded between games in a double header -- they played the first game for one team, then got new unis and played the second for the opposing team. __________________ "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." -- Ayn Rand

03-12-2002, 05:38 AM	#4
Khaos Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canfield, OH Posts: 473	I've done that too. The damn C in an extremely important 4 game series was whiffing left and right. It seemed no matter where I put him in the order he would be the guy getting runners in scoring position with 2 outs and whiffing away. He did it so many times I moved his 31 year old veteran ass down to AAA. I would of cut him if he wasn't signed for 3 more years. Hmmmmm, trading block time? __________________ squish

03-12-2002, 06:11 AM	#6
marioh All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 1,162	I've done that with the demotion to the minors as well. Or I just bench the guy indefinetly. I wonder if the players know they've been put on the trading block in OOTP ? And if they do know, does it effect their performance ? I've only stuck one of my starters on the trading block, and he really stunk up the joint during the stint on the trading block. I wonder if that was just coincedence. __________________ RZA - "I'm me and the me that's me is me and is going to continue to be me"

03-12-2002, 09:00 AM	#10
marioh All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 1,162	Good, I'm happy to hear that they do know when they're put on the trading block. Makes them realize they better shape up or else they'll be getting shipped out. __________________ RZA - "I'm me and the me that's me is me and is going to continue to be me"

03-12-2002, 05:10 AM	#3
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	I've gotten so peed of, I've moved a vet down to the minors! Todd

03-12-2002, 06:09 AM	#5
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	[quote]He did it so many times I moved his 31 year old veteran ass down to AAA. I would of cut him if he wasn't signed for 3 more years. Hmmmmm, trading block time?<hr></blockquote> Hehe! Move his ass down to A and see how he likes to sleep in roach motels! Todd

03-12-2002, 07:59 AM	#7
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	marioh, I've seen the opposite, so it must be coincedence. I put Lee Stevens on the trading block and he has been hitting the sheet out of the ball! Todd

03-12-2002, 08:04 AM	#8
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,209	They know, sometimes they send you an email saying they don't want to be traded... or one saying get me the hell out of here...

03-12-2002, 08:08 AM	#9
Heelfan71 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 118	I benched Charles Johnson due to him striking out 30 times in 80 at bats and with a .076 batting avg. Then I put him on the trading block and he sent me a message asking me to please take him off the trading block and how much he likes playing for me. I felt bad and took him off! I tried trading him for some young prospect catcher, but no one will take him.

03-12-2002, 09:42 AM	#11
St.Lunatic Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 29	[quote]Originally posted by VT Os fan: <strong> Not me. Everybody has bad days, although I'll put a player on the block after too many bad days. MLB doesn't allow roster changes while the game is in progress. I do recall a story of players being traded between games in a double header -- they played the first game for one team, then got new unis and played the second for the opposing team.</strong><hr></blockquote> When did this trade occur?? What was it all about? __________________ Download STLunatic's Pro Logos for OOTP4 @ <a href="http://www.ootpworld.com/ootp4/logos.html" target="_blank">OOTPWorld.com!</a>

03-12-2002, 09:51 AM	#12
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	that trade occurred early in the 1900's. i dont know exactly when. i read about it in some baseball book about weird baseball stories. i know that theplayers were traded as stated above, and then switched uniforms to play the second half of the game. weird, very weird. ever hear about the guy that played all nine positions in ONE game? or that old silly rule that lasted i think for one year where a one bouncer in the infield was an automatic out. or how about the time when bases on balls were counted as hits in a batting average. baseball sure has changed alot.

03-12-2002, 10:06 AM	#13
Arbiter Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: College Station TX Posts: 127	[quote]Originally posted by YankeePride: <strong> ever hear about the guy that played all nine positions in ONE game? </strong><hr></blockquote> Which one of the four (in major league history, at least) are you thinking of? [quote]<strong> or that old silly rule that lasted i think for one year where a one bouncer in the infield was an automatic out. </strong><hr></blockquote> This "silly rule" was in effect roughly the first thirty years after the rules were first codified (and it was a one-bouncer anywhere; fouls could be caught on the first bounce for an out even after the rule was changed for fair balls). Try fielding without a glove and you won't think it's so silly.

03-12-2002, 10:09 AM	#14
joshuaaaaaa All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 633	In one of the "strange but true" baseball stories books I read as a kid (back before computers), there was a guy who got both the win and the loss in a game. He was on the mound when a game got called for darkness There were men on base at the time. The game was resumed several months later and, in the interim, he was traded to the opposing team. When the game was resumed, he came in to pitch, some of the runners on base scored. The guy ended up getting the loss for his old team and the win for his new team. Now, this may be urban legend, and I have no idea of the name of the pitcher involved, however if someone can fill in the details, I'd be interested. Joshuaaaaaa __________________ Baltimore Monarchs-GUBA Baltimore Orioles-ORB2 "One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do." ~Henry Ford ~

03-12-2002, 10:10 AM	#15
inverarity Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 95	Joel Youngblood played for both the Mets and the Expos in the same day, but not in a double header. I believe he played for the Mets in a day game, the Expos in a night game. Hard to remember, it was a while ago.

03-12-2002, 10:18 AM	#16
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	[quote]Originally posted by YankeePride: <strong>that trade occurred early in the 1900's. i dont know exactly when. i read about it in some baseball book about weird baseball stories</strong><hr></blockquote> It did happen in the early part of the 1900's but you may have heard of it more recently. The 1979 the Mets traded for Jose Cardenal in between games of a doubleheader. Cardenal dressed for the Mets in the 2nd game but didn't actually get into the game. Funny thing is, Cardenal is a cousin on one of the guys you also referred to in your post who played all 9 positions in one major league game, Bert Camapaneris! Max Flack and Cliff Heathcote played for both teams in a doubleheader, having been traded by the Cubs and Cardinals between games in 1922. Here's a link: <a href="http://www.pubdim.net/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/H/Heathcote_Cliff.stm" target="_blank">Unusual Trade</a> The Tigers traded reliever Todd Jones between games of a doubleheader last season but not to the team the Tigers were playing the doubleheader against. __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

03-12-2002, 10:22 AM	#17
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	[quote]Originally posted by YankeePride: <strong> ever hear about the guy that played all nine positions in ONE game?</strong><hr></blockquote> Bert Campaneris, Cesar Tovar, Scott Sheldon, Shane Halter __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

03-12-2002, 10:31 AM	#18
fluharty All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 1,023	I also had a guy with C duration as MR & SP who I moved to the pen after calling up a younger player- he asked me top put him back in the rotation or trade him!!! I traded him.

03-12-2002, 11:07 AM	#19
jor31 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 204	[quote]Originally posted by LivnLegend: <strong> Shane Halter</strong><hr></blockquote> Is that a joke or real? I watch the Tigers (lose) and he is like the Joe McEwing of Detroit.Though he dosent own RJ.... __________________ Not affiliated but these sites are good- <a href="http://www.ootpworld.com" target="_blank">http://www.ootpworld.com</a> <a href="http://www.ootplinks.com" target="_blank">http://www.ootplinks.com</a> <a href="http://www.bigcitybaseball.com/bigcitybaseball/" target="_blank">http://www.bigcitybaseball.com/bigcitybaseball/</a>

03-12-2002, 11:39 AM	#20
Dwolfson20 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Not St. Louis Posts: 2,872	No joke, Halter did it a couple of years ago. __________________