Are Prospects Too Juiced?

[PSUColonel]

Well, many of us who have been around here awhile have grown accustomed to the developers popping in to explain certain aspects of the game. I am not saying this is something that's owed to the customer base, but rather appreciated.

I am in no position to speculate what that practice seems to have diminished lately, but I would admit it does seem there are fewer explanations and less insight from the team. That could be for any multitude of reasons.

[Pelican]

Originally Posted by jcard

I do not understand what you mean by interaction with the developers. I have zero expectation of anything like that, or belief that I am owed some type of personal consideration post-purchase. The consideration to a customer is expressed in the product that I purchased.
Contentious attitude? Visceral contempt? It is unfortunate that this is the impression you have taken, and I regret whatever part of that is my doing.
I do not presume to advise you on how to make your decisions of what you should or should not do regarding recreational choices, nor do I need your advice on how to go about mine.
I have nothing to add but will just repeat what I said earlier:
1. I stand by my criticisms based on my honest expectations
2. In making those criticisms in no way am I impeaching the credibility or legitimacy of the claims by anyone else to be satisfied with the product that they purchased. I am glad that others do get more fulfillment out of the game than do I, and have no reason to wish them anything other than continued enjoyment.

That's fair. I overstepped. Of course, everybody's experience is different.

[BarneyRubble]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Well, many of us who have been around here awhile have grown accustomed to the developers popping in to explain certain aspects of the game. I am not saying this is something that's owed to the customer base, but rather appreciated.

I am in no position to speculate what that practice seems to have diminished lately, but I would admit it does seem there are fewer explanations and less insight from the team. That could be for any multitude of reasons.

Something has definitely changed, that's no mystery.

[brotherblues]

Originally Posted by BarneyRubble

Something has definitely changed, that's no mystery.

For one thing, lots more pitchforks in the forum than in years past. Might have something to do with the devs keeping their distance.

[slugga27]

Originally Posted by brotherblues

For one thing, lots more pitchforks in the forum than in years past. Might have something to do with the devs keeping their distance.

The fact that Markus no longer works for himself has something to do with it.


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[kidd_05_u2]

Originally Posted by slugga27

The fact that Markus no longer works for himself has something to do with it.

And you know this how?

The amount of dumb comments by people with +1000 posts is staggering.

[BarneyRubble]

Originally Posted by brotherblues

For one thing, lots more pitchforks in the forum than in years past. Might have something to do with the devs keeping their distance.

Not that I spend any time contemplating the reasons, this is one of them that crossed my mind.

It is what it is.

[slugga27]

Originally Posted by kidd_05_u2

And you know this how?

The amount of dumb comments by people with +1000 posts is staggering.

You’re joking, right?


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[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by brotherblues

For one thing, lots more pitchforks in the forum than in years past. Might have something to do with the devs keeping their distance.

Yea, but there has always been criticism here when it was fairly due. I don’t think people are criticizing just to criticizing either. In the past, it was chalked up as a learning experience, and everyone pretty much moved on. This does have me wondering if it’s a different policy with a different company??

Usually the developers would acknowledge what they’d consider legitimate and constructive criticism and have some back and forth with users. I must admit I am not seeing that as much or as often.

[Pelican]

I had not noticed any change in the occasional developer comments and interactions, since the ownership change. (Admittedly, my experience before that point was limited.). There are still frequent appearances by various developers on these threads. So it would appear they are monitored. I suspect the devs have more time after the pressure of a new release (and the first wave of questions and complaints) is (are) over.

[Coldfront]

Originally Posted by kidd_05_u2

And you know this how?

The amount of dumb comments by people with +1000 posts is staggering.

People who reply in every thread with 4 words drive up their post counts. They game the message board rankings with frequent engagement.

Strongly opinionated, empty calories or quick replies like “you’re wrong and I am right because reasons”.

Pass!

Mike

[dcordash]

Originally Posted by kidd_05_u2

Works better than trying very hard to sound like an intellectual guy, for sure.

Any possibility he really is an intellectual guy and writes how he thinks? Or maybe that only happens in real life and why you play fictional leagues..I dunno you tell me.

[PSUColonel]

This is still a huge issue. I am getting the feeling Markus has done this on purpose because he may think having a realistically graded draft pool isn't fun for casual gamer. I know we have gone back and forth on this for years, and it looks like the gamey version has won over the realistic one. This is my initial draft pool in the year 2023 with the standard MLB setup. I think I am done for this version. This to me, isn't fun because it's so unrealistic.

[PSUColonel]

I will admit the quality of the reports aren't very good....so I will scout the players to se how it shakes out and what it looks like after that.

[PSUColonel]

The draft pool DOES start looking much more realistic after you begin scouting the players….I actually like the way this works!! Well done!

This is the first time I have gotten to play this version…I have been testing all these months.

[Pelican]

Yeah I have found that sometimes you just have to give it time - and yourself time to adapt to the changes. It’s only my third version; but I am beginning to see that it can be necessary to “unlearn” habits from previous editions, because certain aspects have changed or work differently. The cool thing is, you always have the options of playing existing seasons or sims on the previous platform, if you’re not comfortable with the new versions.

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by Pelican

Yeah I have found that sometimes you just have to give it time - and yourself time to adapt to the changes. It’s only my third version; but I am beginning to see that it can be necessary to “unlearn” habits from previous editions, because certain aspects have changed or work differently. The cool thing is, you always have the options of playing existing seasons or sims on the previous platform, if you’re not comfortable with the new versions.

Actually, I feel this version is in good shape now. I like the way this is done actually. OOTP 23 had a rocky start, but I think things are win much better shape now, and that things are in good shape to move forward.

I am of the opinion anymore, that it's (maybe I should not say this as it's not good for business) better start a new version after it reaches maturity. Usually that is right around this time of year. It takes a good 6-7 months after release to get things working tip top IMHO.

[JerseyPirate]

This version definitely makes it more of a true crap shoot in regards to drafting and international FA's. There are so many players with high ratings that fail so it feels more realistic instead of previous versions that only had 10-15 "elite" prospects and tons of 2-2 1/2 star potential players in round 2. It makes the draft more fun for me.

[PSUColonel]

It’s not that it’s a total crapshoot…what I like is that it actually matter how well you scout the draft pool…it makes a huge difference. So you need money invested in scouting, and you’ll need to make time to scout available players. It will be very hard to get through them more than once. This introduces some strategy to scouting & the draft…something I feel was desperately needed. Bravo

[mytreds]

Originally Posted by kidd_05_u2

And you know this how?

The amount of dumb comments by people with +1000 posts is staggering.

He sold this game to another company, meaning he no longer works for himself, he now has a boss. And what the boss says, goes. If that means less interaction with forums, then so be it.

The amount of ad hominem attacks on people in order to derail a thread is staggering.