High stamina pitchers suddenly tiring by 3rd inning

Jerrylt2022 · 05-12-2022, 03:28 PM

All, A weird situation has popped up and I have no clue what caused it. I have some high stamina starting itchers that through in the mid 90's. The first 4-5 starts they were great and lasted to 7-8 innings as you would expect. Now, for the past few starts they are significantly tired towards exhaustion by the 3rd inning and are totally exhausted by the 4-5 inning. I used a reliever start to give all starters an extra day but still same result. I even recruited an additional starter to go to a 6 man rotation with no difference. Its gotten to the point hat i have to bring in RP's by 4-5 inning and now my RP corps is exhausted as well. This cannot continue as all of my. When I start them they are 100% rested and ready with no injuries. I am at a loss as to what to do now. It is to the point i cannot continue my team because every other day my RP corps is done and cant pitch. Any ideas?

MikeS369 · 05-12-2022, 03:42 PM

What year settings are you using. If it is 2022 or there about, starters going only 5 innings is not unusual.

locuspc · 05-12-2022, 04:22 PM

Do you not have a trainer, or your trainer's fatigue recovery stat is poor?

Jerrylt2022 · 05-12-2022, 05:25 PM

ok that is what i think it is. The trainer is average and the pitching coach is poor.

SirSaab · 05-13-2022, 02:20 AM

UCL tear incoming….

kidd_05_u2 · 05-13-2022, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerrylt2022

ok that is what i think it is. The trainer is average and the pitching coach is poor.

Is that really the problem? Coaches and trainers should not have that big of an impact

Dave Stieb II · 05-13-2022, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidd_05_u2

Is that really the problem? Coaches and trainers should not have that big of an impact

I agree wholeheartedly. I have no idea what the root cause of the problem is but you are 100% correct if that is, in fact, the cause.

Might I suggest that the OP check the Stats and AI page to ensure pitcher stamina didn't somehow change.

Ktulu · 05-13-2022, 03:00 PM

Also check that the pitchers in question are actually set to be Starting Pitchers. It's likely the league stamina setting. Trainers and coaches have nothing to do with an issue that extreme.

Rain King · 05-13-2022, 03:49 PM

It is also a good idea to look into other teams in the league. If AI teams are showing similar problems that will show that it is an issue with the League Settings and not one of your team settings.

Jerrylt2022 · 05-13-2022, 10:27 PM

yeah i made the trainers legendary and went to all dh rules and have no changes (just as a test). I didn't think that it might be a league setting

Jerrylt2022 · 05-13-2022, 11:35 PM

ok i am starting to see a little change. I actually started leaving the pitchers in there for 2 innings when exhausted and to 6-7 innings and i am now seeing them recover faster. instead of 4 out 5 SP's being tired or exhausted i am seeing 1 exhausted and 1 tired but the rest being rested. I can't explain this unless they are getting more stretched out. I will continue to monitor but it seems they may report exhausted but they may not be completely exhausted.

Dave Stieb II · 05-14-2022, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerrylt2022

ok i am starting to see a little change. I actually started leaving the pitchers in there for 2 innings when exhausted and to 6-7 innings and i am now seeing them recover faster. instead of 4 out 5 SP's being tired or exhausted i am seeing 1 exhausted and 1 tired but the rest being rested. I can't explain this unless they are getting more stretched out. I will continue to monitor but it seems they may report exhausted but they may not be completely exhausted.

OK. Now this post kind of confuses me.
It is not unusual at all that at any given time, in your pitching depth chart, 3 SP will show as exhausted, one yellow (tomorrow's starter) and one fresh (today's starter). If you are playing any season in the last 30 years (or more) then SP cannot work any more regularly than every fifth day.
But maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying.

05-12-2022, 03:28 PM	#1
Jerrylt2022 Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2022 Posts: 9	High stamina pitchers suddenly tiring by 3rd inning All, A weird situation has popped up and I have no clue what caused it. I have some high stamina starting itchers that through in the mid 90's. The first 4-5 starts they were great and lasted to 7-8 innings as you would expect. Now, for the past few starts they are significantly tired towards exhaustion by the 3rd inning and are totally exhausted by the 4-5 inning. I used a reliever start to give all starters an extra day but still same result. I even recruited an additional starter to go to a 6 man rotation with no difference. Its gotten to the point hat i have to bring in RP's by 4-5 inning and now my RP corps is exhausted as well. This cannot continue as all of my. When I start them they are 100% rested and ready with no injuries. I am at a loss as to what to do now. It is to the point i cannot continue my team because every other day my RP corps is done and cant pitch. Any ideas?

05-13-2022, 02:20 AM	#5
SirSaab Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 283	UCL tear incoming…. __________________ “Lady, I’m not an athlete. I’m a professional baseball player.” - John Kruk

05-13-2022, 03:00 PM	#8
Ktulu Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: BC Posts: 4,506	Also check that the pitchers in question are actually set to be Starting Pitchers. It's likely the league stamina setting. Trainers and coaches have nothing to do with an issue that extreme. __________________ "The ice is getting even more thinner, my friend!"

05-12-2022, 03:42 PM	#2
MikeS369 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: USA Posts: 653	What year settings are you using. If it is 2022 or there about, starters going only 5 innings is not unusual.

05-12-2022, 04:22 PM	#3
locuspc Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2022 Posts: 301	Do you not have a trainer, or your trainer's fatigue recovery stat is poor?

05-12-2022, 05:25 PM	#4
Jerrylt2022 Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2022 Posts: 9	ok that is what i think it is. The trainer is average and the pitching coach is poor.

05-13-2022, 03:49 PM	#9
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,125 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	It is also a good idea to look into other teams in the league. If AI teams are showing similar problems that will show that it is an issue with the League Settings and not one of your team settings.

05-13-2022, 10:27 PM	#10
Jerrylt2022 Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2022 Posts: 9	yeah i made the trainers legendary and went to all dh rules and have no changes (just as a test). I didn't think that it might be a league setting

05-13-2022, 11:35 PM	#11
Jerrylt2022 Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2022 Posts: 9	ok i am starting to see a little change. I actually started leaving the pitchers in there for 2 innings when exhausted and to 6-7 innings and i am now seeing them recover faster. instead of 4 out 5 SP's being tired or exhausted i am seeing 1 exhausted and 1 tired but the rest being rested. I can't explain this unless they are getting more stretched out. I will continue to monitor but it seems they may report exhausted but they may not be completely exhausted.