Camden Yards Dimensions

[Tirc]

Hi all,


It doesn't look like 23 accounted for the off-season dimension changes that were made at Camden Yards for the 2022 season. I can't find out how to change the dimensions within my franchise. Can someone point me to the directions on how to do that, or if it's even possible?

[ohiodevil]

There was a thread about it earlier and they are going to update Camden Yards and release it with a patch later, but see the link below, Silvam does awesome work! He has it so you can download his version of the park in his thread.

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...77#post4873577

[Tirc]

Originally Posted by ohiodevil

There was a thread about it earlier and they are going to update Camden Yards and release it with a patch later, but see the link below, Silvam does awesome work! He has it so you can download his version of the park in his thread.

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...77#post4873577

Thank you so much for pointing me to this! It looks great!

[Pelican]

Just loaded the latest patch. It looks like Camden Yards has the new (huge!) LF dimensions. But the 3D model does not look much different to me.

[ohiodevil]

Originally Posted by Pelican

Just loaded the latest patch. It looks like Camden Yards has the new (huge!) LF dimensions. But the 3D model does not look much different to me.

They have not updated the 3D model yet, but I believe they entered the new park dimensions in so the game uses the current ones. If you want the correct 3D model, use the one Silvam made.Otherwise you will have to wait for the patch that includes the 3D model.

[choward2984]

For me, it still has the old dimensions. I just started a new game(challenge mode) and the left field appears the same. Unless i'm doing something wrong. The wall height is still 7ft and not backed up.

[jg2977]

Originally Posted by choward2984

For me, it still has the old dimensions. I just started a new game(challenge mode) and the left field appears the same. Unless i'm doing something wrong. The wall height is still 7ft and not backed up.

See posts #2 and #5 of this thread.

[choward2984]

Originally Posted by jg2977

See posts #2 and #5 of this thread.

I've seen both. And i'm not looking at the 3D model. And Silvam does great work. BUT for me, i still have the same dimensions despite it apparently being updated.

[Sweed]

Changing dimensions is cosmetic unless they change the park factors. New dimensions will only change what the pbp spits out as far as HR distance.


Without real life stats they would have to either hypothesize the effect of the new dimensions with regard to HR, doubles, and triples, or auotcalc them. This they may have done as part of the patch update? IDK.

[jg2977]

Some are calling the new left field fence "Mount Baltimore".

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2351644

Only Ryan Mountcastle has scaled it thus far.

[Pelican]

Originally Posted by Sweed

Changing dimensions is cosmetic unless they change the park factors. New dimensions will only change what the pbp spits out as far as HR distance.


Without real life stats they would have to either hypothesize the effect of the new dimensions with regard to HR, doubles, and triples, or auotcalc them. This they may have done as part of the patch update? IDK.

Help me with the first part here. If I change the dimensions by editing the stadium, and then run the calculation to change the park factors, see the very notable change in reduced HR to LF (and a corresponding uptick in 2B and 3B, presumably due to much more ground for the LF to cover), should this then be reflected going forward in diminished HR? I think I am seeing this; but of course there is no distance given for the long fly balls that look like they would have been HR before. I have not yet had any HR that are less distance than the new fences.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Pelican

Help me with the first part here. If I change the dimensions by editing the stadium, and then run the calculation to change the park factors, see the very notable change in reduced HR to LF (and a corresponding uptick in 2B and 3B, presumably due to much more ground for the LF to cover), should this then be reflected going forward in diminished HR? I think I am seeing this; but of course there is no distance given for the long fly balls that look like they would have been HR before. I have not yet had any HR that are less distance than the new fences.

Yes, you should see fewer HR and more 2b and 3b with the changes in ballpark factors you are describing.

No, you won't have any HR that are less than the distance to the new fence. OOTP uses the dimension measurement, in the pbp, as the minimum for a HR to clear the fence. Change the distance from A to B and B is now used in the pbp if a HR is hit.

It is the HR park factor that will change the number of HR hit in the ballpark regardless of what the measurement is. IE the measurement could be changed to 5,000ft and a HR hit would be measured at >5,000 ft when hit while the chance of hitting a HR would be unchanged.

So back to Camden Yard.

If you want the wall being moved back to result in less HR you need to reduce the HR park factor to LF. It may have been 1.100 (just spit balling a number) at the old measurement. If you think the fence going back will result in 10% less HR you would need to reduce the 1.100 to 1.000.
Then do the same for how much you think doubles and triples will be affected.

Now, since it seems you used autocalc to change the park factors that should do that for you based on whatever formula it uses. Whether they already did this in the update? IDK. If they did change the park factors to take into account the change in dimensions then, I think, you are doubling down?

The one thing about using autocalc is, as far as I know, it doesn't change values for the whole league to take into account whatever change is made in a single park. In this case Camden Yard. IOW all HR factors to LF (as well as all locations too) should total to 1.000 across the whole league so each stadium produces +\- it's share of HRs. I don't think reducing one parks LF factor by X% while increasing that parks double and triple factors by Y% is going to throw league totals off in any meaningful way. IOW one ballpark changing should not be a big deal. I think, in the end, that however many HR you "lose" at CY will be made up for in other ballparks. With the opposite happening with 2b and 3d IE.. CY will take some 2b and 3b from other ballparks. This is only a guess and, even if so it is such a small number as to be unnoticeable, I think?

The point of my post was that changing the dimensions of CY was not going to change the output unless they also changed the factors.

I hope that answers your question?

[Birdland24]

Originally Posted by jg2977

Some are calling the new left field fence "Mount Baltimore".

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2351644

Only Ryan Mountcastle has scaled it thus far.

Austin Hays put one over last night as well.


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[Pelican]

Originally Posted by Sweed

Yes, you should see fewer HR and more 2b and 3b with the changes in ballpark factors you are describing.

No, you won't have any HR that are less than the distance to the new fence. OOTP uses the dimension measurement, in the pbp, as the minimum for a HR to clear the fence. Change the distance from A to B and B is now used in the pbp if a HR is hit.

It is the HR park factor that will change the number of HR hit in the ballpark regardless of what the measurement is. IE the measurement could be changed to 5,000ft and a HR hit would be measured at >5,000 ft when hit while the chance of hitting a HR would be unchanged.

So back to Camden Yard.

If you want the wall being moved back to result in less HR you need to reduce the HR park factor to LF. It may have been 1.100 (just spit balling a number) at the old measurement. If you think the fence going back will result in 10% less HR you would need to reduce the 1.100 to 1.000.
Then do the same for how much you think doubles and triples will be affected.

Now, since it seems you used autocalc to change the park factors that should do that for you based on whatever formula it uses. Whether they already did this in the update? IDK. If they did change the park factors to take into account the change in dimensions then, I think, you are doubling down?

The one thing about using autocalc is, as far as I know, it doesn't change values for the whole league to take into account whatever change is made in a single park. In this case Camden Yard. IOW all HR factors to LF (as well as all locations too) should total to 1.000 across the whole league so each stadium produces +\- it's share of HRs. I don't think reducing one parks LF factor by X% while increasing that parks double and triple factors by Y% is going to throw league totals off in any meaningful way. IOW one ballpark changing should not be a big deal. I think, in the end, that however many HR you "lose" at CY will be made up for in other ballparks. With the opposite happening with 2b and 3d IE.. CY will take some 2b and 3b from other ballparks. This is only a guess and, even if so it is such a small number as to be unnoticeable, I think?

The point of my post was that changing the dimensions of CY was not going to change the output unless they also changed the factors.

I hope that answers your question?

Totally yes. Thanks so much.