Can't trade rights to RFA

Akaitatsu · 03-07-2022, 11:35 AM

I have an exceptional 23-year-old RFA (5-star ability and potential) that I need to move. I would like to keep him, but I have too many high-dollar contracts with no move clauses. When I try to trade him for a 1st rounder, the opposing GM always says, "I want a much better player or pick in return for giving up a a draft of that value." This happens for every team, even top teams with no hope of picking in the top 20 next season.

I was hoping someone would just offer-sheet him so I could take their picks in return, but his current asking price is $14M/season.

jumpSeat · 03-07-2022, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Akaitatsu

I have an exceptional 23-year-old RFA (5-star ability and potential) that I need to move. I would like to keep him, but I have too many high-dollar contracts with no move clauses. When I try to trade him for a 1st rounder, the opposing GM always says, "I want a much better player or pick in return for giving up a a draft of that value." This happens for every team, even top teams with no hope of picking in the top 20 next season.

The sad fact of the matter is, if you're trading for a late first rounder, you'd be fortunate to draft a guy above 3.5 star potential. So in reality, your deal is actually more than fair.

Akaitatsu · 03-07-2022, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jumpSeat

The sad fact of the matter is, if you're trading for a late first rounder, you'd be fortunate to draft a guy above 3.5 star potential. So in reality, your deal is actually more than fair.

Exactly. I think there is a bug in the logic that's related to him not having a contract or having received just a qualifying offer. I haven't had any trouble trading less valuable players for multiple 1st round picks.

JeffR · 03-07-2022, 11:20 PM

What point in the season are you trying to trade him at? Normally, that message should only be applied to teams that have a chance of finishing with a lottery pick.

Akaitatsu · 03-08-2022, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffR

What point in the season are you trying to trade him at? Normally, that message should only be applied to teams that have a chance of finishing with a lottery pick.

I first tried right after the draft. Now I am at August 1 and it's still doing it. Every team gives the same response, all the way up to the one with the 2nd best record in the previous season.

This game was upgraded from FHM7 and I have played 1 season since the upgrade, if that makes any difference.

JeffR · 03-09-2022, 10:01 AM

Strange. I'll take a look at the way that logic is set up, it should only be giving that response for picks that are likely to be very high.

jumpSeat · 03-09-2022, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffR

Strange. I'll take a look at the way that logic is set up, it should only be giving that response for picks that are likely to be very high.

I don't think I mentioned it in my previous post, but I've encountered the same response in situations where it really shouldn't apply. So... Thanks for taking a look!

JeffR · 03-10-2022, 05:51 AM

I think I'm going to need to see the save to have a look at the particular player being offered in the trade, if he's rated 5/5 that should be more than enough to avoid that specific rejection message.

Akaitatsu · 03-14-2022, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffR

I think I'm going to need to see the save to have a look at the particular player being offered in the trade, if he's rated 5/5 that should be more than enough to avoid that specific rejection message.

Save: Expanding Universe.lg 2035-08-01 A.7z (you can delete the other failed uploads with similar names)
My Team: Nashville
Player: Alexander Riegler
Columbus was the 2nd best team last season. Try trading Riegler to them for a 1st round pick.

JeffR · 03-15-2022, 06:26 AM

Definitely something wrong there, it's giving me that answer for any draft pick before the 5th round. Looks like it's a combination of the AI not accepting the rights to an unsigned high-value player for a high pick, and a mistaken evaluation of how high the pick is. We'll have to check both things.

In the meantime, his contract request has come down quite a bit, so if you can clear about $2m in budget space (trading Smiryaglin would work) you'll have just enough to re-sign him, then trade him without any restrictions.

Akaitatsu · 03-16-2022, 08:45 PM

Glad I'm not crazy. Thanks for the extra tip. That's what I was going to try next, but I haven't had a chance to play in a few days.

03-07-2022, 11:35 AM	#1
Akaitatsu Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2020 Location: NE Tennessee Posts: 50	Can't trade rights to RFA I have an exceptional 23-year-old RFA (5-star ability and potential) that I need to move. I would like to keep him, but I have too many high-dollar contracts with no move clauses. When I try to trade him for a 1st rounder, the opposing GM always says, "I want a much better player or pick in return for giving up a a draft of that value." This happens for every team, even top teams with no hope of picking in the top 20 next season. I was hoping someone would just offer-sheet him so I could take their picks in return, but his current asking price is $14M/season.

03-07-2022, 11:20 PM	#4
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,249	What point in the season are you trying to trade him at? Normally, that message should only be applied to teams that have a chance of finishing with a lottery pick.

03-09-2022, 10:01 AM	#6
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,249	Strange. I'll take a look at the way that logic is set up, it should only be giving that response for picks that are likely to be very high.

03-10-2022, 05:51 AM	#8
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,249	I think I'm going to need to see the save to have a look at the particular player being offered in the trade, if he's rated 5/5 that should be more than enough to avoid that specific rejection message.

03-15-2022, 06:26 AM	#10
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,249	Definitely something wrong there, it's giving me that answer for any draft pick before the 5th round. Looks like it's a combination of the AI not accepting the rights to an unsigned high-value player for a high pick, and a mistaken evaluation of how high the pick is. We'll have to check both things. In the meantime, his contract request has come down quite a bit, so if you can clear about $2m in budget space (trading Smiryaglin would work) you'll have just enough to re-sign him, then trade him without any restrictions.

03-16-2022, 08:45 PM	#11
Akaitatsu Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2020 Location: NE Tennessee Posts: 50	Glad I'm not crazy. Thanks for the extra tip. That's what I was going to try next, but I haven't had a chance to play in a few days.