Ratings Question

luckymann · 02-14-2022, 05:28 AM

I continue to have serious issues about certain elements of the game engine with regard to player ratings.

Perhaps I'm missing something.

Can someone please explain to me how Smoky Joe Wood at age 36 has max stamina and fairly decent pitching ratings allocated to him in 1926 when the last time he pitched IRL was 2 innings in 1920? I'm using 5-year recalc.

TIA

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Brad K · 02-14-2022, 03:17 PM

That's with 100% accurate scouting?

Reed · 02-14-2022, 04:09 PM

First question, did you select “retire according to history”? Doesn’t look like it. I take it development is on. What about talent change randomness? That would be my guess.
When I play with historical player but with retire according to history off I usually see player’s rating take a dive after age 33 but if I replay the league some of the same player’s will have their ratings go up for a few years and then take a dive.

luckymann · 02-14-2022, 04:59 PM

100% scouting. No retire as per history. TCR is at 10 now but was higher when this probably mattered re Joe.

Which is probably what did it.

Appreciate the feedback, thanks.

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Brad K · 02-14-2022, 10:28 PM

When he runs out of RL stats, he goes on the development engine, right? The development engine could think quite highly of him concentrating on stats 1911-1913. And he has so many IPs those years compared to later years.

ldambrosa · 02-17-2022, 02:01 PM

I have seem the same thing for Smoky Joe Wood in a save I am currently running. When I read this thread, I had to look and, sure enough, he pitched in my sim until 1921 somewhat successfully. I am pretty sure (it's been a while) that I went in at some point and adjusted his ratings thru the editor. In any case, I have retire according to history on so he was gone at the end of 1922.

In other sims, I've seen sort of the opposite happen a lot. A person, Jimmie Foxx for example, comes up as a catcher, and even with recalc at one year, he stays a catcher. Jayson Werth is another example of the exact thing happening.

LansdowneSt · 02-21-2022, 02:56 AM

For the positional limitations, like Jimmie Foxx, the best solution is in the Advanced set-up for the Historical game. See the lower right where the positions (and stamina for SP/RP issues) can be based off the entire career. That should let them be better able to, through experience, improve at positions they played at various points in their career. So for Foxx, C, 3B and 1B. Though, keep in mind, there is an alternate universe where the manager keeps that Foxx kid behind the plate.

02-14-2022, 05:28 AM	#1
luckymann Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 13,309	Ratings Question I continue to have serious issues about certain elements of the game engine with regard to player ratings. Perhaps I'm missing something. Can someone please explain to me how Smoky Joe Wood at age 36 has max stamina and fairly decent pitching ratings allocated to him in 1926 when the last time he pitched IRL was 2 innings in 1920? I'm using 5-year recalc. TIA G __________________ HISTORICAL DO-OVERS A'S RED SOX DODGERS CUSTOM SAVES ECLIPSE LEAGUE MOON SHOT LEAGUE EVERYMAN LEAGUE GULF LEAGUE USBA

02-14-2022, 04:09 PM	#3
Reed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,339	First question, did you select “retire according to history”? Doesn’t look like it. I take it development is on. What about talent change randomness? That would be my guess. When I play with historical player but with retire according to history off I usually see player’s rating take a dive after age 33 but if I replay the league some of the same player’s will have their ratings go up for a few years and then take a dive. Last edited by Reed; 02-14-2022 at 04:15 PM.

02-14-2022, 04:59 PM	#4
luckymann Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 13,309	100% scouting. No retire as per history. TCR is at 10 now but was higher when this probably mattered re Joe. Which is probably what did it. Appreciate the feedback, thanks. G __________________ HISTORICAL DO-OVERS A'S RED SOX DODGERS CUSTOM SAVES ECLIPSE LEAGUE MOON SHOT LEAGUE EVERYMAN LEAGUE GULF LEAGUE USBA

02-17-2022, 02:01 PM	#6
ldambrosa Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Lincroft, NJ Posts: 60	I have seem the same thing for Smoky Joe Wood in a save I am currently running. When I read this thread, I had to look and, sure enough, he pitched in my sim until 1921 somewhat successfully. I am pretty sure (it's been a while) that I went in at some point and adjusted his ratings thru the editor. In any case, I have retire according to history on so he was gone at the end of 1922. In other sims, I've seen sort of the opposite happen a lot. A person, Jimmie Foxx for example, comes up as a catcher, and even with recalc at one year, he stays a catcher. Jayson Werth is another example of the exact thing happening. Attached Images

02-21-2022, 02:56 AM	#7
LansdowneSt Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 7,359	For the positional limitations, like Jimmie Foxx, the best solution is in the Advanced set-up for the Historical game. See the lower right where the positions (and stamina for SP/RP issues) can be based off the entire career. That should let them be better able to, through experience, improve at positions they played at various points in their career. So for Foxx, C, 3B and 1B. Though, keep in mind, there is an alternate universe where the manager keeps that Foxx kid behind the plate. Attached Images

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Brad K Banned Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,694 Infractions: 0/2 (4)	That's with 100% accurate scouting?

02-14-2022, 10:28 PM	#5
Brad K Banned Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,694 Infractions: 0/2 (4)	When he runs out of RL stats, he goes on the development engine, right? The development engine could think quite highly of him concentrating on stats 1911-1913. And he has so many IPs those years compared to later years.