Some Indies got Disable auto FAs unticked

[clamel]

Not played much with Indy leagues but now I pulled them all in.

However on the Rules tab one can see that all of course got no Amateur Drafts, so Enable Amateur Draft is unticked.

Then the Disable auto craetion of FA
is ticked in most of them BUT not in
Pioneer League and Pacific Association

Are these leagues somewhat different ?
Shouldn't they also have that box (disable auto) ticked ??

This is set directly in creation my new league so no tampering have been made (yet)

[Situational_Lefty]

Originally Posted by clamel

Not played much with Indy leagues but now I pulled them all in.

However on the Rules tab one can see that all of course got no Amateur Drafts, so Enable Amateur Draft is unticked.

Then the Disable auto craetion of FA
is ticked in most of them BUT not in
Pioneer League and Pacific Association

Are these leagues somewhat different ?
Shouldn't they also have that box (disable auto) ticked ??

This is set directly in creation my new league so no tampering have been made (yet)

That's kind of weird. I took a look at those league and noticed something else. In Pioneer and Pacific the option "Reset Service Time for FAs signed from other leagues" is checked. In all other independent leagues, it is unchecked. I'm not really sure what sets the two leagues apart from the rest.

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by Situational_Lefty

That's kind of weird. I took a look at those league and noticed something else. In Pioneer and Pacific the option "Reset Service Time for FAs signed from other leagues" is checked. In all other independent leagues, it is unchecked. I'm not really sure what sets the two leagues apart from the rest.

Same with owners deciding budgets, some allow for the owners to set the budget, while others do not. Why the inconsistency?

[PSUColonel]

Lately I have really been wondering just how well all of these leagues work together in "concert". I know many over the years have said they work OK, but to me, there are a lot of inconsistencies such as these named in this thread, as well as other strange reports, where it's being reported that staff from INDY leagues cannot be pryed away from their respective teams, and I have also seen a lot of cases where it makes no sense for AAA caliber players with an obvious shot of getting a little MLB time (perhaps) and still choosing to play in the independent leagues. All you then have to do is purchase the player, (it will cost $250) and they are automatically signed to a minor league deal. It just doesn't feel right, and I can hardly believe that's how it happens IRL.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Same with owners deciding budgets, some allow for the owners to set the budget, while others do not. Why the inconsistency?

It's just a matter of different leagues getting added at different times, the default settings for different leagues being different when some leagues got added etc.

For stuff like this, it's really not a big deal in terms of how the leagues end up playing out, so we never really took the time to go through and made sure everything was the same for all the different leagues for some of the less important stuff.

I did go through and fix some of this up now to make things a bit more standardized. Same with the 'owner decides budget' settings you mentioned elsewhere.

[jcard]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

It's just a matter of different leagues getting added at different times, the default settings for different leagues being different when some leagues got added etc.

For stuff like this, it's really not a big deal in terms of how the leagues end up playing out, so we never really took the time to go through and made sure everything was the same for all the different leagues for some of the less important stuff.

I did go through and fix some of this up now to make things a bit more standardized. Same with the 'owner decides budget' settings you mentioned elsewhere.

QUOTE=Lukas Berger;4840874]It's just a matter of different leagues getting added at different times, the default settings for different leagues being different when some leagues got added etc.

For stuff like this, it's really not a big deal in terms of how the leagues end up playing out, so we never really took the time to go through and made sure everything was the same for all the different leagues for some of the less important stuff.

I did go through and fix some of this up now to make things a bit more standardized. Same with the 'owner decides budget' settings you mentioned elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

The fact that this can be offered as a perfectly acceptable response is a sorry testament to three years of ever-decreasing regard for the traditional game and it’s customer base. Such an explicit indifference to basic quality control is an insult to anyone who purchases a product and an embarrassment to those who made it- or at least, would be to someone who took pride in their work and the way they they treat their customers.

The issues listed above are hardly isolated. In addition to the schizophrenic Indy league settings, there are various problems with the standard MLB game default settings that have persisted all year: 15-day pitcher IL, extra-inning base runner rule not in effect, adjust league totals box checked (when the online manual specifically says it should be left unchecked for standard modern games, preset default 2021 league totals settings that are different between a standard game and a fictional league using 2021 settings and that change when you press the button to restore defaults (even though you never changed them), etc. Is how the MLB plays out also not important?

The issues go beyond settings. Has anyone even noticed that when you sort the Prospect Pipeline by attribute (Contact / Stuff, etc.) the list is NOT in descending order of the displayed attribute rating? A thirty-second look into the matter reveals that it is because the page (logically) displays the potential attribute ratings for the prospects but the list sorts by their current attribute rating.

Darin Ruf who made 16 of his 24 starts in 2020 and 36 of his 80 starts in 2021 (and started Games 2 and 5 of the NLDS in LF)? No outfield rating all year. Aroldis Chapman experiments with a splitter in 2020 and then from training camp this year is noted to be throwing it more? Nope, fastball slider only. Of course, that is not surprising, given the response to a forum member’s question at the start of the year about why Didi Gregorius’ FB / GB tendency had not been updated to reflect the trend in his data over recent years:

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

This is something I think we just have not gone through and updated for a couple years. I'll add it to the list of things to work on.

This type of data is available literally as soon as the last pitch of the regular season is thrown. If you cannot update your database between the beginning of October and the beginning of March, the problem isn’t a lack of time but a want of effort.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by jcard

the problem isn’t a lack of time but a want of effort.

Yeah, this is so off base it's not even worth a response, but I'll take the click bait and do so, even though I know better

Just myself, personally, I've made well over 100,000 db edits (each edit being just clicking save on a player, many of those edits could involve up to 20 or more fields being edited at the same time) just within this last year. That's just the physical task of actually typing in the db too, never mind the countless hours needed to do the research that's needed to determine the changes needed and gather data.

That's also not counting countless lines of importing of players/stats/ratings edits from files, or any of the work any other folks have done in the db.

In a database with over 100k players (and that's not even getting into the question of the historical db), there are going to be some things that take a while to get updated and get occasionally missed. Anyone who understands the first thing about the stupefying amount of work and effort involved would realize that.

There's no way around that unfortunately and it has nothing to do with a lack of effort or desire. To keep everything entirely and completely up to date in a db of our size would take probably easily 5-10 times the amount of staff and resources we have available to work on the db. Even Football Manager doesn't do a better job of it with their db, with well over 10 times the amount of staff and resources to devote to the db that we have.

[Rain King]

The price point on this game is so amazing for what you get. Malcontents gonna malcontent though.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Yeah, this is so off base it's not even worth a response, but I'll take the click bait and do so, even though I know better

Just myself, personally, I've made well over 100,000 db edits (each edit being just clicking save on a player, many of those edits could involve up to 20 or more fields being edited at the same time) just within this last year. That's just the physical task of actually typing in the db too, never mind the countless hours needed to do the research that's needed to determine the changes needed and gather data.

That's also not counting countless lines of importing of players/stats/ratings edits from files, or any of the work any other folks have done in the db.

In a database with over 100k players (and that's not even getting into the question of the historical db), there are going to be some things that take a while to get updated and get occasionally missed. Anyone who understands the first thing about the stupefying amount of work and effort involved would realize that.

There's no way around that unfortunately and it has nothing to do with a lack of effort or desire. To keep everything entirely and completely up to date in a db of our size would take probably easily 5-10 times the amount of staff and resources we have available to work on the db. Even Football Manager doesn't do a better job of it with their db, with well over 10 times the amount of staff and resources to devote to the db that we have.

The "Thank You" button is sorely missed on these boards

Appreciate all you do Lukas