Question about spending $$$ in this game

[Roco32373]

First off, I really like this game. I mostly play PERFECT TEAM.

I’ve won 3 championships, in the Rookie and Stone divisions. I’m trying to win in Iron.

So far I haven’t spent anything, yet I have many 100 level players and a LOT of 90s.

Would spending just allow me to get more 100 level players?

What makes a silver or gold tier team? I feel like I can’t be that far away from those levels??

Please advise and thanks.

I was thinking of spending $250 on the game. A bunch of money, but I want to support the devs and I have disposable income.

[RunninYakAngler]

If I were you I'd save my money until the next version comes out. At this point $250 is nothing compared to the amount of points the top players have, and they have all of the cards. I'd bet most Gold and Diamond teams have 200K+, along with a lot/most of the better cards.

If your not already, your best bet would be to enter tournaments to win packs and start building your team by selling off the cards you win. Use the proceeds to complete the missions. Eventually your team will be good enough to compete in Gold, but it will take a massive amount of PPs.

[Roco32373]

Originally Posted by RunninYakAngler

If I were you I'd save my money until the next version comes out. At this point $250 is nothing compared to the amount of points the top players have, and they have all of the cards. I'd bet most Gold and Diamond teams have 200K+, along with a lot/most of the better cards.

If your not already, your best bet would be to enter tournaments to win packs and start building your team by selling off the cards you win. Use the proceeds to complete the missions. Eventually your team will be good enough to compete in Gold, but it will take a massive amount of PPs.

Okay, thank you for that answer. So does it just mean that they have more 100 cards? Or are there certain player cards they have that I presumably would not have? I think I’m missing something…because I’m thinking if I have an all 100 team, then I should be at least competitive at the absolute highest levels? Sorry if these are stupid questions but I’m genuinely confused haha

[daves]

When you get to Gold and Diamond levels the teams start looking the same. There are too many collections and way too many perfect 100 players.

Enjoy your team at the lower levels and make the team theme you want. I would not recommend spending cash especially when there is no PP sale. Once you start spending cash, it will only take more to keep up with the changes and it is not as fun.

[Torgonius]

Don't base a card's value on the number on the front. There are way too many 100 cards that are useless in regular play above silver or gold level.

You're in a great position now to learn how PT works. You may want to talk to some of the F2P groups to see if you may be a fit with them. You can really learn about the inner workings of the game, and which cards are better than others (and why). Soak up that knowledge now, and you'll be set for next season's game.

If you do still want to spend money, you'll be better off doing that next season. Try to learn enough this year to help you make a decision on how much you want to spend, and more importantly, on how to spend the PP you get for it.

[Roco32373]

Originally Posted by Torgonius

Don't base a card's value on the number on the front. There are way too many 100 cards that are useless in regular play above silver or gold level.

You're in a great position now to learn how PT works. You may want to talk to some of the F2P groups to see if you may be a fit with them. You can really learn about the inner workings of the game, and which cards are better than others (and why). Soak up that knowledge now, and you'll be set for next season's game.

If you do still want to spend money, you'll be better off doing that next season. Try to learn enough this year to help you make a decision on how much you want to spend, and more importantly, on how to spend the PP you get for it.

Awesome. Thank you to everybody that responded. I appreciate the help!!!

[ncap99]

Spend the rest of this season working on how tournaments work. You won't want to have to keep buying points to keep up with diamond level teams. Many good free to play managers are able to make diamond and even perfect league not spending a penny, but the backbone of that is having a strong tournament team that can generate you 20 or so packs a day. That adds up to thousands of dollars worth of packs over the season if you base it on the real life dollar to PP conversion even during PP sales.

It also seems that you and I have a similar outlook on the game. I started late last season in Perfect Team after playing the single player version of the game for quite a bit. I decided not to invest any money based on similar advice as what you're hearing in this thread. I invested money early this season and haven't regretted it, as I've been able to stay at diamond level for months and even had a couple perfect league appearances. I'm also glad I didn't sink money into last year and used it as an opportunity to work on other aspects of the game.

[Roco32373]

Originally Posted by ncap99

Spend the rest of this season working on how tournaments work. You won't want to have to keep buying points to keep up with diamond level teams. Many good free to play managers are able to make diamond and even perfect league not spending a penny, but the backbone of that is having a strong tournament team that can generate you 20 or so packs a day. That adds up to thousands of dollars worth of packs over the season if you base it on the real life dollar to PP conversion even during PP sales.

It also seems that you and I have a similar outlook on the game. I started late last season in Perfect Team after playing the single player version of the game for quite a bit. I decided not to invest any money based on similar advice as what you're hearing in this thread. I invested money early this season and haven't regretted it, as I've been able to stay at diamond level for months and even had a couple perfect league appearances. I'm also glad I didn't sink money into last year and used it as an opportunity to work on other aspects of the game.

Yeah, I’m in the same boat as you last season. How much did you spend at the beginning of this season?

[Fabtron7]

Come chat with people on the OOTP Discord... you'll get a lot more information over there.

[bailey]

Originally Posted by Roco32373

Yeah, I’m in the same boat as you last season. How much did you spend at the beginning of this season?

You don't have to spend anything. Just be at your computer when the game is available on day 1 hour 1 minute 1. Sell everything you can from your packs. Buy more packs. Continue selling throughout the day until your eyes bleed. Or just buy $100 worth of points and go to work and relax.

[professor ape]

I bought $10 of PPs on day one to get a jump on my Bronze tournament team and haven’t spent a penny since then. I cleaned up on packs as I was ahead of the curve for the first couple of weeks. In hindsight, I should have been more aggressive about selling cards over the first couple of weeks. Regardless, I’m still in a position where I have completed all but two Historical Select missions and will have them done before the FH3 drop next week. The bottom line is to get a quick start when the new version is released next spring.

[chazzycat]

Spending $250 right now honestly wouldn't get you very far. It's very late in the game cycle and that will only buy a few impact cards, and plus we have a MAJOR end-game set coming out next week that is likely to displace anything you buy today. If you want to support the devs that's great, but I don't think it would be particularly smart in terms of optimal gameplay.

The comment about not judging the quality of cards solely by the overall rating is very important. Many cards rated 100 are completely unplayable trash, and simply filling a team full of 100 cards is no guarantee of anything. You want to try to understand the individual ratings like contact, power, etc. and how they interact with each other, and also how to combine cards with park factors to create synergies that give you an advantage. Once you get a sense for that stuff THEN you can spend money a lot more effectively in a way that won't leave you frustrated with poor performance per dollar spent. There are also tons of cards where the value is inflated due to being included in a mission, but the card itself is still bad. So if you just go buy whatever 100 cards you can afford, without understanding the ratings or prices of cards, I pretty much guarantee you will be disappointed.

So I would recommend immersing/educating yourself a bit first and then if you still want to, spend some money and it will be a lot more effective that way.

And yeah the discord is a good way to speed up that process, you can get a lot of good info there too.

[professor ape]

It is very important to keep in mind that Perfect Team is a card game first, and a baseball simulation second. The team does a good job of having quality cards available in packs but you will not be successful without staying up on the missions throughout the year (unless you are a whale who is willing to drop serious cash on the game). If you are patient and plan ahead, you can take advantage of the inflated market when new missions are dropped by selling cards and then swoop in later when the market settles to buy them for less.

[Torgonius]

One other relatively important thing... if you haven't already, link your PT and Twitch accounts

Instructions

Also check the link at the top of this page on the subject. You get free packs for tuning into selected streams, up to 5 per day. The main OOTP channel recently started offering silver packs as a drop. You can get an easy couple dozen packs a week for free.

[OMGPuppies]

$250 in this game is a drop in the bucket and won’t get you much at this stage. That amount would give you a great head start if spent at the beginning of the game. But, going f2p gives you a much greater sense of accomplishment. By gaining packs through tournaments and investing on the auction house you can finance a run to at least Diamond.

[ncap99]

Originally Posted by Roco32373

Yeah, I’m in the same boat as you last season. How much did you spend at the beginning of this season?

Generally speaking I bought one of the big packs about every other point sale over the course of the season. I wouldn't invest too much early, knowing every card available at release will be unplayable at diamond+ eventually. Just enough to build a strong tournament team and fill out your PT roster.

[Hertston]

Originally Posted by RunninYakAngler

If I were you I'd save my money until the next version comes out. At this point $250 is nothing compared to the amount of points the top players have, and they have all of the cards. I'd bet most Gold and Diamond teams have 200K+, along with a lot/most of the better cards.

Pretty much what he said. Except I wish I had the bl**dy PP. TBH.. I need more PP than that to even stay competitive in Diamond once the last 'Franchise Hero' missions drop - and I already have over sixty '100' cards in my roster. Some are much more 'perfect' than others and that money might not even stretch to two of the former.

However, if you have the money to burn, I would suggest you use it to acquire gold and silver tourney teams (forget bronze) and learn to to use them to obtain a consistent 'income' of packs and even the occasional valuable card from tourneys. While it's us FTP folks who depend almost entirely on that route to progress, it certainly doesn't harm those paying real money, either. At a rough guess, my current cards are 'worth' around ten times what that $250 would buy, even on sale. The Professor has used the same route to acquire rather more, and has even reached the Perfect league doing so. I'm banging on, sorry, but the basic point is that you would need to spend far more than that to make a dent in this game this year. So, either go for gaining experience to kick-start you next year... or go treat yourself to a new 3 wood, pair of hiking boots, serious pub crawl or whatever else floats your boat .

P.S. For the record I have spent nothing on PT whatsoever. They have my money, as usual, for the PC game and that's enough. However, I do confess to getting a 'lucky' drop in my intro packs that funded the purchase of a competitive silver tourney team and I was able to push on from there.

P.P.S. For you, and anybody else, spending real money, the earlier you do it the more you will gain in the medium and long term. Concentrate on completing missions and mission sequences that generate cards (not packs) NOT on expensive 'Perfect' cards the value of which sink like a stone, as will their utility.

[professor ape]

Originally Posted by Hertston

I would suggest you use it to acquire gold and silver tourney teams (forget bronze) and learn to to use them to obtain a consistent 'income' of packs and even the occasional valuable card from tourneys.

Just curious, why do you say to “forget Bronze”? I focus on refining my Bronze tourney team and average between 20-25 packs per day. Is there greater potential in the Silver and Gold tourneys?

[Hertston]

Originally Posted by professor ape

Just curious, why do you say to “forget Bronze”? I focus on refining my Bronze tourney team and average between 20-25 packs per day. Is there greater potential in the Silver and Gold tourneys?

Yes, in some cases (but possibly not yours) That's about my reward rate in those two, and I do not consider myself a particularly skilled player. It's half that with bronze if I'm lucky. The reason is that it is simply much easier to establish what the best cards are in silver and gold. There are fewer of them, the movement vs contact relation becomes more dominant and the limited number of 'uber' cards (usually tourney rewards only) are easily identified - usually by the guy who beats you having them. You just have to pay if not lucky enough to win them, which can get expensive. If bronze works for you though, probably best to stick there. Gold tourneys particularly take a while to fill, especially outside US prime time.

I've tried both diamond levels but although some rewards are higher (10 goes to 15 for example), there are few not capped and they seem to take forever to fill. Considering getting the best cards is very expensive as well, I abandoned both.

P.S. I opened a ten pack tourney win today. Number of duplicates, 59. Cards not already held, one (no value). Total sale value of proceeds, including a few stragglers, about 3.5k. Makes you wonder if it's worth worrying about .

[chazzycat]

I wouldn't agree that higher level tourneys are necessarily better. They cost a lot more to build a good team and keep up with new meta cards. I've been fine spamming iron literally all year.