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chrisj · 03-05-2002, 04:06 AM

[quote]Originally posted by delusional:

like some email from your couachs stating that so & so should be traded, or we could package this deal or john smith from memphis is on the trading block, he could be a nice pick up.
<hr></blockquote>

Actually, I really like that last one. Say, if you needed a SS, your scout (or someone) might say "such and such is on the market. He could really help our team..."

delusional · 03-05-2002, 04:07 AM

O this is another thing. The 5 man rotation where some starters get skipped because there is no game schedule that day.

Another coach's point to, maybe a e-mail stating what minor leaguer should not even be in the sport period because they are that bad ( saves roster space )

angryelvis · 03-05-2002, 04:14 AM

[quote]Originally posted by delusional:

like some email from your couachs stating that so & so should be traded, or we could package this deal or john smith from memphis is on the trading block, he could be a nice pick up.<hr></blockquote>

This is a nice thought, an email saying 'Luis Aguyo is stagnating in your minors, you should try to move him' or 'Del Unser is taking AB away from players who might help you more' would be very interesting

Erich Ingram · 03-05-2002, 04:20 AM

[quote]Originally posted by angryelvis:


This is a nice thought, an email saying 'Luis Aguyo is stagnating in your minors, you should try to move him' or 'Del Unser is taking AB away from players who might help you more' would be very interesting<hr></blockquote>

This is what I like to see good 1980 Phillies talk.

Ben E Lou · 03-05-2002, 04:27 AM

[quote]Originally posted by delusional:
O this is another thing. The 5 man rotation where some starters get skipped because there is no game schedule that day.

Another coach's point to, maybe a e-mail stating what minor leaguer should not even be in the sport period because they are that bad ( saves roster space )<hr></blockquote>

There is a problem with the 5-man rotation handling after off days. I posted this in my "first impressions" thread, but here it is again:

PROBLEM:
Rotation is improperly handled after off days. Here's how the computer handled my starters. I have put an asterisk (*) next to problem starts (ie 3 days' rest)

APRIL 1: Maddux
APRIL 2: Off
APRIL 3: Glavine
APRIL 4: Millwood
APRIL 5: Marquis
APRIL 6: Maddux
APRIL 7: Glavine*
APRIL 8: Millwood*
APRIL 9: Marquis*
APRIL 10: Lopez
APRIL 11: Maddux
APRIL 12: Glavine
APRIL 13: Millwood
APRIL 14: Marquis
APRIL 15: Lopez
APRIL 16: Maddux
APRIL 17: Glavine
APRIL 18: OFF
APRIL 19: Millwood
APRIL 20: Marquis
APRIL 21: Maddux
APRIL 22: Glavine
APRIL 23: Millwood*
APRIL 24: Marquis*
APRIL 25: Lopez

Apparently, there is no routine to check to see if the pitcher has had proper rest. It just goes back to the #1 starter whenever he is available and then goes through the rest of the rotation. Glavine started on April 7th on 3 days' rest after having thrown 118 pitches on April 3rd. It should have jumped to starter #5 on April 7th (Lopez), then gone back to #2 (Glavine) on April 8th. When set to a five-man rotation, the code needs to check for the highest-ordered (1-5) rested starter, and this would be fixed. Right now it appears to only check when the number 5 guy comes up to potentially use the number 1.

angryelvis · 03-05-2002, 04:33 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Rolen17:


This is what I like to see good 1980 Phillies talk.<hr></blockquote>

1980 might be the only thing that separates us from the BoSox fans

Ben E Lou · 03-05-2002, 04:38 AM

Since I've done a lot of looking and thinking in another thread, perhaps it would be beneficial to compile all the issues I've seen that are not being addressed to date into one place in the patch thread. Here we go:

SUGGESTION FOR A VERY SMALL, YET VERY BENEFICIAL TWEAK:
For those of us who like to sim a month at a time, it would be VERY nice to have some sort of sound occur when a sim is interrupted by e-mail/injury/no-hitters in progress/etc and also when the sim is over. When I'm simming a month, I like to minimize and check message boards/play backgammon/etc., but I'd like to still be able to know immediately when the sim was interrupted or ended. (Heck, even just making the little icon flash would be nice.)

BUG
Calendar still has issues. I re-set the "day year starts on" 2004, but computer doesn't realize that 2004 is a leap year, so dates are still off.

MINOR GRAMMATICAL BUG
In the team news report, it will say something like "Phil Nevin hits a 451 feet homerun!!" IT should say "451-foot."
SUGGESTION
The text that is in the game needs to be formatted as such, so that we can copy and paste. I had to re-type the text above. This would be *REALLY* helpful for posting dynasty threads, and of course good dynasty threads help to generate more interest in the game.

SUGGESTION
I don't know if it is possible, but it would be wonderful if there were hotkeys for simming a day, a week and a month, and use of those hotkeys allowed you to stay on whatever screen you were on. For example, when a SP is injured for 5-10 days, we might just want to juggle the rotation some every day and stay on the pitching rotation screen, simming one day at a time and updating who will start the next game.

MINOR BUG
Players who are traded in January are listed on their career stats as having played for that team. (Example: I traded for Phil Nevin 1/30/2004, and he is listed that season as having played for two teams. He really only played for one.)

BUG/SUGGESTION
It has always been an annoyance, particularly during the amateur draft, that a second sort doesn't "remember" the previous sort. For example, when I sort by home run talent, THEN by contact talent, it should list all of the average contact guys lumped together, but they should be secondarily sorted by home run talent.

BUG
When I look at FA's and guys eligible for the amateur draft, if I select just one position, then only guys who have that as their *primary* position show up. It needs to be that *everyone* who can play that position shows up. If I need a FA LF and there's a guy with a nice bat who has primarily played RF, but has a C range rating at LF, he is very much a viable candidate for a big FA offer from me. Currently I must select the "general" stats and look at the range ratings of the position I want, and then scroll through *every single player* at that position.

TommyBoy · 03-05-2002, 05:00 AM

I think this was mentioned in another thread: a compiled list of all players on the Trading Block. It would be much easier than scrolling through the Transactions section of the League News.

Dan Lorenzen · 03-05-2002, 05:10 AM

I've just got this game yesterday so I'm certainly no expert and these might not be issues but I have noticed a few things for me about the in-game manager AI.

For one thing there's too many 1 out sac bunts by posistion players (non-pitchers) IMO. For instance I noticed against the Cardinals Fernando Vina loves to sac bunt runners to 2nd or runners or runners from 1st and second to 2nd and 3rd with 1 out. Again maybe I'm wrong on this and they are bunting for a base hit. But if they are trying to sac bunt with 1 out it's just not a very good strategy IMO. Or else you'd see real life managers doing it.

Also I notice the Ai will pinch hit for the pitcher and then have the pinch hitter bunt. Well if he's going to bunt why not just leave the pitcher in and let him try to sac bunt? Seems like you're just wasting a PHer (esp if his sac bunt rating is about equal to the pitcher)

And also I haven't noticed the AI manager using the hit and run very much. In real baseball the hit and run is used very often (at least 2 times a game) and even on the higher settings I don't notice the computer manager using the H&R with good contact batters very much if at all.

Just some of my thoughts, they could be wrong of course, but I'd like to see the in-game AI manager tweaked a bit.

[ March 05, 2002: Message edited by: Dan Lorenzen ]

FredDurst · 03-05-2002, 05:13 AM

Markus, great game!

I have ur last patch installed and it said less blockbuster trades.I have it on the very low or whatver the lowest one is and i see too many great players get traded.Kinda sick.
Hope ya address it

MetsAREtheBest

player196 · 03-05-2002, 05:25 AM

I've still had problems with the ticker on the bottom of the standings page. The only way it "works" or moves across the screen is when I click the mouse a bunch of times.

Everything else looks good to me.

BuddahBoyChuck · 03-05-2002, 05:27 AM

Hi, just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work put in on this game by the developers and everyone else involved. I'd love to see the ability to have managers play their own home games in a good fashion in online leagues. Also, I can't seem to import individual teams from the Lahman database. Has this been addressed.. Have a good one.. Chuck

delusional · 03-05-2002, 05:28 AM

I am using a solo fictional league with the new patch and I counted maybe 15 trades in 1 season..which is damn good.

Glad to see my ideas are liked

YAY.

Sorry about spelling, since Friday I slept 9 hours. I am kinda beat.

MizzouRah · 03-05-2002, 05:40 AM

[quote]BUG
When I look at FA's and guys eligible for the amateur draft, if I select just one position, then only guys who have that as their *primary* position show up. It needs to be that *everyone* who can play that position shows up. If I need a FA LF and there's a guy with a nice bat who has primarily played RF, but has a C range rating at LF, he is very much a viable candidate for a big FA offer from me. Currently I must select the "general" stats and look at the range ratings of the position I want, and then scroll through *every single player* at that position<hr></blockquote>

This would be very nice to have. It would save me alot of time searching, as somtimes the players are just as good at LF and RF as CF or vice-versa.

Todd

John2412 · 03-05-2002, 05:50 AM

Could we have "Browse" options in the usual file maintenance window format to locate the files for import from the Lahman Database or OOTP3 seasons etc ? I have seen this mentioned elsewhere but it is an "annoyance" of mine having to type the whole path name in, although I love the rest of the game otherwise.....

John

Crapshoot · 03-05-2002, 05:54 AM

1. it would be great if in a player's history, the players he was traded with/for were listed; currently it seems like only the date and team are listed.
2. Make players more demanding; I went through
and adjusted the salaries in my game to reflect reality; many veterans seem willing to sign extensions at lwo rates when in real life, they would take only a one year deal to re-establish themselves and hit it big..
3. Make teams more cognizant of salaries; players making seven million in Tampa Bay will play, whether they deserve it or not.
4. Free Agency; there seem to be 25 year olds who do not have the requisite 6 years of MLB experience becom

J P Falcon · 03-05-2002, 05:58 AM

I mentioned this in another post but just in case it was missed...3 inning saves are not being credited....and I too cannot get the news ticker to scroll. It does scroll if I simply run my cursor up and down across the team names from the drop down menu, and even speeds up and slows down if I do...why would that be?

Crapshoot · 03-05-2002, 05:58 AM

4. Free Agency; there seem to be 25 year olds who do not have the requisite 6 years of MLB experience.

5. Certain players being off-limits unless the team is completely bowled over; at this point only prospects seem to have that status.

I realize this is a long list and some of it may not be practical. As much as is viable however, would be greatly appreciated. I never played OOTP before, but I intend to stick with it because its addictive, and there is a viable community and great support for it. I shudder to think of making requests for patches at HHK2 or others..
thanks a lot Markus,
Aadik

Henry · 03-05-2002, 05:59 AM

Player Histories...

Just another chance to suggest going over them and seeing if you can weed out the duplicate comments (having someone hit his first career homerun twice, etc.) ...also adding in more detail about trades

fluharty · 03-05-2002, 05:59 AM

As I mentioned in the suggestions ares, I would love to be able to have players work on their bunting and/or stealing in spring training. Also, for defense, I would like to be able to specify if I want them to fopcus on increasing their range or on their fielding percentage.

Also, for pitchers, I would like have 'movement' listed as a category to work on. Right now, it lists everything but this (stuff, control, velocity).

03-05-2002, 04:06 AM	#21
chrisj All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Edmonton, Alberta (but still wishing I was in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada) Posts: 834	[quote]Originally posted by delusional: <strong> like some email from your couachs stating that so & so should be traded, or we could package this deal or john smith from memphis is on the trading block, he could be a nice pick up. </strong><hr></blockquote> Actually, I really like that last one. Say, if you needed a SS, your scout (or someone) might say "such and such is on the market. He could really help our team..." __________________ Canadian Baseball League -- Commissioner -- Calgary GM

03-05-2002, 04:07 AM	#22
delusional Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 252	O this is another thing. The 5 man rotation where some starters get skipped because there is no game schedule that day. Another coach's point to, maybe a e-mail stating what minor leaguer should not even be in the sport period because they are that bad ( saves roster space ) __________________ USBA - Philadelphia Mavericks t

03-05-2002, 04:14 AM	#23
angryelvis Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 89	[quote]Originally posted by delusional: <strong> like some email from your couachs stating that so & so should be traded, or we could package this deal or john smith from memphis is on the trading block, he could be a nice pick up.</strong><hr></blockquote> This is a nice thought, an email saying 'Luis Aguyo is stagnating in your minors, you should try to move him' or 'Del Unser is taking AB away from players who might help you more' would be very interesting

03-05-2002, 04:20 AM	#24
Erich Ingram Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,217	[quote]Originally posted by angryelvis: <strong> This is a nice thought, an email saying 'Luis Aguyo is stagnating in your minors, you should try to move him' or 'Del Unser is taking AB away from players who might help you more' would be very interesting</strong><hr></blockquote> This is what I like to see good 1980 Phillies talk. __________________ Erich Ingram (Rolen17) IOSBL San Diego Aztecs 2010, 2012,2013, 2014 World Series Champions Maelstrom Padres 2026 World Champions eMLB Washington Nationals

03-05-2002, 04:27 AM	#25
Ben E Lou Front Office Football Central Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Souf Cackilacky Posts: 1,762	[quote]Originally posted by delusional: <strong>O this is another thing. The 5 man rotation where some starters get skipped because there is no game schedule that day. Another coach's point to, maybe a e-mail stating what minor leaguer should not even be in the sport period because they are that bad ( saves roster space )</strong><hr></blockquote> There is a problem with the 5-man rotation handling after off days. I posted this in my "first impressions" thread, but here it is again: PROBLEM: Rotation is improperly handled after off days. Here's how the computer handled my starters. I have put an asterisk () next to problem starts (ie 3 days' rest) APRIL 1: Maddux APRIL 2: Off APRIL 3: Glavine APRIL 4: Millwood APRIL 5: Marquis APRIL 6: Maddux APRIL 7: Glavine APRIL 8: Millwood* APRIL 9: Marquis* APRIL 10: Lopez APRIL 11: Maddux APRIL 12: Glavine APRIL 13: Millwood APRIL 14: Marquis APRIL 15: Lopez APRIL 16: Maddux APRIL 17: Glavine APRIL 18: OFF APRIL 19: Millwood APRIL 20: Marquis APRIL 21: Maddux APRIL 22: Glavine APRIL 23: Millwood* APRIL 24: Marquis* APRIL 25: Lopez Apparently, there is no routine to check to see if the pitcher has had proper rest. It just goes back to the #1 starter whenever he is available and then goes through the rest of the rotation. Glavine started on April 7th on 3 days' rest after having thrown 118 pitches on April 3rd. It should have jumped to starter #5 on April 7th (Lopez), then gone back to #2 (Glavine) on April 8th. When set to a five-man rotation, the code needs to check for the highest-ordered (1-5) rested starter, and this would be fixed. Right now it appears to only check when the number 5 guy comes up to potentially use the number 1.

03-05-2002, 04:33 AM	#26
angryelvis Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 89	[quote]Originally posted by Rolen17: <strong> This is what I like to see good 1980 Phillies talk.</strong><hr></blockquote> 1980 might be the only thing that separates us from the BoSox fans

03-05-2002, 04:38 AM	#27
Ben E Lou Front Office Football Central Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Souf Cackilacky Posts: 1,762	Since I've done a lot of looking and thinking in another thread, perhaps it would be beneficial to compile all the issues I've seen that are not being addressed to date into one place in the patch thread. Here we go: SUGGESTION FOR A VERY SMALL, YET VERY BENEFICIAL TWEAK: For those of us who like to sim a month at a time, it would be VERY nice to have some sort of sound occur when a sim is interrupted by e-mail/injury/no-hitters in progress/etc and also when the sim is over. When I'm simming a month, I like to minimize and check message boards/play backgammon/etc., but I'd like to still be able to know immediately when the sim was interrupted or ended. (Heck, even just making the little icon flash would be nice.) BUG Calendar still has issues. I re-set the "day year starts on" 2004, but computer doesn't realize that 2004 is a leap year, so dates are still off. MINOR GRAMMATICAL BUG In the team news report, it will say something like "Phil Nevin hits a 451 feet homerun!!" IT should say "451-foot." SUGGESTION The text that is in the game needs to be formatted as such, so that we can copy and paste. I had to re-type the text above. This would be REALLY helpful for posting dynasty threads, and of course good dynasty threads help to generate more interest in the game. SUGGESTION I don't know if it is possible, but it would be wonderful if there were hotkeys for simming a day, a week and a month, and use of those hotkeys allowed you to stay on whatever screen you were on. For example, when a SP is injured for 5-10 days, we might just want to juggle the rotation some every day and stay on the pitching rotation screen, simming one day at a time and updating who will start the next game. MINOR BUG Players who are traded in January are listed on their career stats as having played for that team. (Example: I traded for Phil Nevin 1/30/2004, and he is listed that season as having played for two teams. He really only played for one.) BUG/SUGGESTION It has always been an annoyance, particularly during the amateur draft, that a second sort doesn't "remember" the previous sort. For example, when I sort by home run talent, THEN by contact talent, it should list all of the average contact guys lumped together, but they should be secondarily sorted by home run talent. BUG When I look at FA's and guys eligible for the amateur draft, if I select just one position, then only guys who have that as their primary position show up. It needs to be that everyone who can play that position shows up. If I need a FA LF and there's a guy with a nice bat who has primarily played RF, but has a C range rating at LF, he is very much a viable candidate for a big FA offer from me. Currently I must select the "general" stats and look at the range ratings of the position I want, and then scroll through every single player at that position.

03-05-2002, 05:00 AM	#28
TommyBoy Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Purvis, Mississippi Posts: 137	I think this was mentioned in another thread: a compiled list of all players on the Trading Block. It would be much easier than scrolling through the Transactions section of the League News.

03-05-2002, 05:10 AM	#29
Dan Lorenzen Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 34	I've just got this game yesterday so I'm certainly no expert and these might not be issues but I have noticed a few things for me about the in-game manager AI. For one thing there's too many 1 out sac bunts by posistion players (non-pitchers) IMO. For instance I noticed against the Cardinals Fernando Vina loves to sac bunt runners to 2nd or runners or runners from 1st and second to 2nd and 3rd with 1 out. Again maybe I'm wrong on this and they are bunting for a base hit. But if they are trying to sac bunt with 1 out it's just not a very good strategy IMO. Or else you'd see real life managers doing it. Also I notice the Ai will pinch hit for the pitcher and then have the pinch hitter bunt. Well if he's going to bunt why not just leave the pitcher in and let him try to sac bunt? Seems like you're just wasting a PHer (esp if his sac bunt rating is about equal to the pitcher) And also I haven't noticed the AI manager using the hit and run very much. In real baseball the hit and run is used very often (at least 2 times a game) and even on the higher settings I don't notice the computer manager using the H&R with good contact batters very much if at all. Just some of my thoughts, they could be wrong of course, but I'd like to see the in-game AI manager tweaked a bit. [ March 05, 2002: Message edited by: Dan Lorenzen ]</p>

03-05-2002, 05:13 AM	#30
FredDurst Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: USA Posts: 21	Markus, great game! I have ur last patch installed and it said less blockbuster trades.I have it on the very low or whatver the lowest one is and i see too many great players get traded.Kinda sick. Hope ya address it MetsAREtheBest __________________ Fred Durst Plays OOTP

03-05-2002, 05:25 AM	#31
player196 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Medford, OR Posts: 59	I've still had problems with the ticker on the bottom of the standings page. The only way it "works" or moves across the screen is when I click the mouse a bunch of times. Everything else looks good to me.

03-05-2002, 05:27 AM	#32
BuddahBoyChuck Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Columbia MO Posts: 22	Hi, just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work put in on this game by the developers and everyone else involved. I'd love to see the ability to have managers play their own home games in a good fashion in online leagues. Also, I can't seem to import individual teams from the Lahman database. Has this been addressed.. Have a good one.. Chuck

03-05-2002, 05:28 AM	#33
delusional Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 252	I am using a solo fictional league with the new patch and I counted maybe 15 trades in 1 season..which is damn good. Glad to see my ideas are liked YAY. Sorry about spelling, since Friday I slept 9 hours. I am kinda beat. __________________ USBA - Philadelphia Mavericks t

03-05-2002, 05:40 AM	#34
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,266	[quote]BUG When I look at FA's and guys eligible for the amateur draft, if I select just one position, then only guys who have that as their primary position show up. It needs to be that everyone who can play that position shows up. If I need a FA LF and there's a guy with a nice bat who has primarily played RF, but has a C range rating at LF, he is very much a viable candidate for a big FA offer from me. Currently I must select the "general" stats and look at the range ratings of the position I want, and then scroll through every single player at that position<hr></blockquote> This would be very nice to have. It would save me alot of time searching, as somtimes the players are just as good at LF and RF as CF or vice-versa. Todd

03-05-2002, 05:50 AM	#35
John2412 Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: UK Posts: 16	Could we have "Browse" options in the usual file maintenance window format to locate the files for import from the Lahman Database or OOTP3 seasons etc ? I have seen this mentioned elsewhere but it is an "annoyance" of mine having to type the whole path name in, although I love the rest of the game otherwise..... John __________________ Yesterday is History Tomorrow is a Mystery Today is a Gift Enjoy your present.... And never lose sight of your dreams

03-05-2002, 05:54 AM	#36
Crapshoot Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: watching: DArwin's missing link in action Posts: 3,112	1. it would be great if in a player's history, the players he was traded with/for were listed; currently it seems like only the date and team are listed. 2. Make players more demanding; I went through and adjusted the salaries in my game to reflect reality; many veterans seem willing to sign extensions at lwo rates when in real life, they would take only a one year deal to re-establish themselves and hit it big.. 3. Make teams more cognizant of salaries; players making seven million in Tampa Bay will play, whether they deserve it or not. 4. Free Agency; there seem to be 25 year olds who do not have the requisite 6 years of MLB experience becom __________________ Senior Senor Member of the OOTP Boards Pittsburgh Playmates- OTBL

03-05-2002, 05:58 AM	#37
J P Falcon Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 406	I mentioned this in another post but just in case it was missed...3 inning saves are not being credited....and I too cannot get the news ticker to scroll. It does scroll if I simply run my cursor up and down across the team names from the drop down menu, and even speeds up and slows down if I do...why would that be?

03-05-2002, 05:59 AM	#39
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	Player Histories... Just another chance to suggest going over them and seeing if you can weed out the duplicate comments (having someone hit his first career homerun twice, etc.) ...also adding in more detail about trades

03-05-2002, 05:59 AM	#40
fluharty All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 1,023	As I mentioned in the suggestions ares, I would love to be able to have players work on their bunting and/or stealing in spring training. Also, for defense, I would like to be able to specify if I want them to fopcus on increasing their range or on their fielding percentage. Also, for pitchers, I would like have 'movement' listed as a category to work on. Right now, it lists everything but this (stuff, control, velocity).