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Old 07-08-2021, 03:47 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Was there a recent change in the AI for signing International Amateur FA's?

So in OOTP 22 and in previous versions, signing International Amateur FA's always went like this:

I find a player I want to sign. I immediately offer them $5M (which is the cap in this case) because I know for guys rated at a certain potential, it always ends up being that number, and then about two days later, they would sign with me.

But after a recent update, the AI Seems to be a bit different? I'll do the same thing as mentioned above, and it will immediately say "Favors Offer." Then about two days will pass and they won't sign, but rather their status will change to "Wants More Money" which is impossible because I've already offered them the cap. So inevitably I end up not being able to sign the guy and they sign with someone else.

Did something change? Not that I'm advocating for it to be super easy to sign the top rated international guy every year, but it's now almost impossible for me to sign someone with a high potential, even when I offer the max.
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Old 07-08-2021, 04:15 PM   #2
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We've fixed some pieces up. So all players will essentially have an "internal" list of order of teams they would sign with, so if a "higher" ranked team gives them a max offer, they would sign there. So if an AI team with a higher rank gives them a max offer as well, they'll sign there. Previously there were some bugs that would make it too easy to sign players to max deals.
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Old 07-08-2021, 04:19 PM   #3
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So in OOTP 22 and in previous versions, signing International Amateur FA's always went like this:

I find a player I want to sign. I immediately offer them $5M (which is the cap in this case) because I know for guys rated at a certain potential, it always ends up being that number, and then about two days later, they would sign with me.

But after a recent update, the AI Seems to be a bit different? I'll do the same thing as mentioned above, and it will immediately say "Favors Offer." Then about two days will pass and they won't sign, but rather their status will change to "Wants More Money" which is impossible because I've already offered them the cap. So inevitably I end up not being able to sign the guy and they sign with someone else.

Did something change? Not that I'm advocating for it to be super easy to sign the top rated international guy every year, but it's now almost impossible for me to sign someone with a high potential, even when I offer the max.
I uncheck "use hard int'l amateur FA Cap as I like to negotiate with a player, and decide if I really want to pay "over the top" for someone. I know it hurts the small market teams, and being an expansion team, I have an average size market, so I have some wiggle room. The top player this year went for 15m. I got a player for 6.5 that my scout says has a chance to be a bench player. In my current universe, I can only see the "other ratings", speed/stealing, stamina/hold runners, so I am purely going on my scout. And I only sign or try to sign one int'l player every other year. Just an in-house rule I use.

Sorry I couldn't answer your question as I don't find the current setup in the game challenging at all, so why I changed the settings. Throw 5m at a player, and boom, they sign. Except for your recent issue. No real fun in that.

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Old 07-08-2021, 05:29 PM   #4
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We've fixed some pieces up. So all players will essentially have an "internal" list of order of teams they would sign with, so if a "higher" ranked team gives them a max offer, they would sign there. So if an AI team with a higher rank gives them a max offer as well, they'll sign there. Previously there were some bugs that would make it too easy to sign players to max deals.
What decides the order of teams a player wants to sign for?
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Old 07-08-2021, 05:43 PM   #5
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What decides the order of teams a player wants to sign for?
It's more or less random. Generally speaking, the higher scouted they are for you, the more they like you. And there's often a line of text on the contract discussion that can give a hint (ie. "I really would like to play for your organization" = they value you higher, although there's still a chance that another team could still be even more).
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:38 PM   #6
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We've fixed some pieces up. So all players will essentially have an "internal" list of order of teams they would sign with, so if a "higher" ranked team gives them a max offer, they would sign there. So if an AI team with a higher rank gives them a max offer as well, they'll sign there. Previously there were some bugs that would make it too easy to sign players to max deals.
Is there a way I can improve my teams standing on this list?
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Old 07-11-2021, 10:47 AM   #7
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I've noticed this fix as well, and it's great. Instead of constantly signing the best available IFA for the max $5M, it's nice to see the AI also offering $5M to a prospect, and that prospect choosing the AI team in some cases. It was definitely too easy before the fix.
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Old 07-11-2021, 11:09 AM   #8
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Yes, welcome fix for sure
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