2021 Euro 2020

Westheim · 06-11-2021, 07:27 PM

No, I'm not even into it, at all, and I resent with all my heart their stupid concept to play the tournament in 12 countries, and even persist with that brain fart *now*, but, eh...

Watched Italy whoop Turkey earlier, 3-0, although it was more background noise. The Turks didn't do anything writing home about. Neat own goal though - should give a bonus point!

I *do* look forward to our shambolic team of misfits to get routed by Portugal and France next week, though.

monkeyman576 · 06-11-2021, 07:36 PM

What's more prestigious a euro title or an olympic gold medal?

mytreds · 06-11-2021, 10:06 PM

Euro. No one cares about the Olympics and soccer (football). In fact the Olympic teams don’t send the best from each country, it’s usually the U-21s.

Westheim · 06-12-2021, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mytreds

Euro. No one cares about the Olympics and soccer (football). In fact the Olympic teams don’t send the best from each country, it’s usually the U-21s.

Well, European countries couldn't send their best teams, because the two events regularly take place in the same summer.

Not sure about other nations (not all continental soccerball associations hold their continental tournament in the same year as the Olympics), but in Europe at least nobody cares a whole lot about the Olympics.

Westheim · 06-12-2021, 01:51 PM

Danish player has collapsed on the field and is in the process of being revived.

**** my ***, we can't have any nice things anymore, can we?

Westheim · 06-12-2021, 02:35 PM

The game is suspended for the time being, while Christian Eriksen of Inter has been transported to the nearest hospital and is said to be alive.

rudel.dietrich · 06-12-2021, 06:56 PM

That was a very scary moment. He is said to be in stable condition. I enjoy Tottenham and have watched a lot of games so I have seen a lot of Ericksen.
I hope it was just heat or blood sugar and he can bounce back and make a full recovery.

But one of his teammates stuck his fingers inside of Ericksen's mouth, which makes me think seizure. I could not find a history of them from a quick search.
So either his team and the Denmark staff know of them, or that teammate is a very quick thinker. Either way, he should be commended for keeping his airway clear.

Westheim · 06-12-2021, 07:06 PM

I'm an accountant, not a doctor, so I'm not gonna...

...and then they lost to the Fins, 1-0, on their only shot of the game.

Something's rotten in the State of Denmark.

rudel.dietrich · 06-12-2021, 07:16 PM

Denmark has a really good team as well and I had expected them to have an outside shot at finishing in the final four.
But seeing one of your teammates and one of the best players your nation has produced has to be difficult.

And Finland is usually defensively sound as well.

rudel.dietrich · 06-12-2021, 07:22 PM

Now the more I read on it, he has a cardiac massage on the field. Yikes, that is super scary. I really hope he makes a full recovery and his career is not affected and his life is not altered in any way.

dsvitak · 06-12-2021, 08:05 PM

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Now the more I read on it, he has a cardiac massage on the field. Yikes, that is super scary. I really hope he makes a full recovery and his career is not affected and his life is not altered in any way.

I had emergency open heart surgery, very close to 20 years ago now. I was 44, and considered myself to be an excellent athlete. Didn't stop my arteries from clogging up, and my left main and left anterior descending being 100% blocked. This combo was called "The Widowmaker", and got Darryl Kile at age 34.

In many cases, heart issues have zero to do with physical fitness.

Boomcoach · 06-14-2021, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mytreds

Euro. No one cares about the Olympics and soccer (football). In fact the Olympic teams don’t send the best from each country, it’s usually the U-21s.

Its not "Usually", on the Men's side, the Olympics are specifically the U23 teams.

Boomcoach · 06-14-2021, 11:03 AM

I was watching the Denmark game live, and that was a very scary and emotional moment. I cannot imagine what it was like for the Danish players to be standing their in a cordon to give some privacy to Erickson and the medical staff, and being able to hear what was going on behind them. Just glad that it appears that he will make it.

Westheim · 06-15-2021, 04:01 PM

Cristiano Ronaldo remains the best - completely pedestrian game until the 85th minute, then knocks in a pair in a late 3-0 win over Hungary.

Meanwhile, if Germany got off beaten by three by the French, that would already be a success...

Westheim · 06-15-2021, 06:27 PM

Bright sides. No Frenchman scored a goal!

ry1220 · 06-16-2021, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

Bright sides. No Frenchman scored a goal!

Löw got it wrong tactically.

Westheim · 06-16-2021, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ry1220

Löw got it wrong tactically.

Unfortunately we were not allowed to dig some holes for traps for Mbappe to run into. There was at least one scene where he overtakes a defender with such speed *and the ball*, it looked like the German guy tried to run but just didn't have any legs. I say we got off easy.

Boomcoach · 06-16-2021, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

Unfortunately we were not allowed to dig some holes for traps for Mbappe to run into. There was at least one scene where he overtakes a defender with such speed *and the ball*, it looked like the German guy tried to run but just didn't have any legs. I say we got off easy.

I have to agree. It is more of a surprise that France didn't score more than it is that Germany struggled. I think speed is going to give the German back line nightmares in this tournament.

rudel.dietrich · 06-16-2021, 07:35 PM

The German team is still a bit of a mess.
Low has one foot out the door and is leaving as soon as the tournament is over.

The squad is a mix of young and raw players and older players who are past their primes.
I would rather he play the young players and get bounced in the group stages rather than play a mixture of the two.

After this tournament, Germany needs to find a manager and staff that is committed to the future and nurture it's next generation and work on making sure it qualifies for the 2022 WC in November (

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The biggest issue is not the defence but the lack of an attack.
The defence is going to look bad when it is under constant pressure.
And past German teams were better at ball control and sustained attacks that allowed their defence time to rest or even let their fullbacks and centre backs join the attack.

ry1220 · 06-16-2021, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ry1220

Löw got it wrong tactically.

Germany lost this game in midfield. For German teams of the past, this was their strength. But, with the three at the back, they had an extra defender mostly just waiting to defend against Pogba's 30 yard balls for Mbappe to run onto. Perhaps the extra man in midfield would have prevented that and allowed Kroos and Gundogan to play further up the pitch to help bring creativity and purpose to the attack.

06-11-2021, 07:27 PM	#1
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 13,837	2021 Euro 2020 No, I'm not even into it, at all, and I resent with all my heart their stupid concept to play the tournament in 12 countries, and even persist with that brain fart now, but, eh... Watched Italy whoop Turkey earlier, 3-0, although it was more background noise. The Turks didn't do anything writing home about. Neat own goal though - should give a bonus point! I do look forward to our shambolic team of misfits to get routed by Portugal and France next week, though. __________________ Portland Raccoons, 92 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

06-11-2021, 10:06 PM	#3
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06-12-2021, 01:51 PM	#5
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 13,837	Danish player has collapsed on the field and is in the process of being revived. ** my , we can't have any nice things anymore, can we? __________________ Portland Raccoons, 92 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

06-12-2021, 02:35 PM	#6
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 13,837	The game is suspended for the time being, while Christian Eriksen of Inter has been transported to the nearest hospital and is said to be alive. __________________ Portland Raccoons, 92 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

06-12-2021, 07:06 PM	#8
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 13,837	I'm an accountant, not a doctor, so I'm not gonna... ...and then they lost to the Fins, 1-0, on their only shot of the game. Something's rotten in the State of Denmark. __________________ Portland Raccoons, 92 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

06-11-2021, 07:36 PM	#2
monkeyman576 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,687	What's more prestigious a euro title or an olympic gold medal?

06-12-2021, 06:56 PM	#7
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	That was a very scary moment. He is said to be in stable condition. I enjoy Tottenham and have watched a lot of games so I have seen a lot of Ericksen. I hope it was just heat or blood sugar and he can bounce back and make a full recovery. But one of his teammates stuck his fingers inside of Ericksen's mouth, which makes me think seizure. I could not find a history of them from a quick search. So either his team and the Denmark staff know of them, or that teammate is a very quick thinker. Either way, he should be commended for keeping his airway clear.

06-12-2021, 07:16 PM	#9
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	Denmark has a really good team as well and I had expected them to have an outside shot at finishing in the final four. But seeing one of your teammates and one of the best players your nation has produced has to be difficult. And Finland is usually defensively sound as well.

06-12-2021, 07:22 PM	#10
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	Now the more I read on it, he has a cardiac massage on the field. Yikes, that is super scary. I really hope he makes a full recovery and his career is not affected and his life is not altered in any way.

06-14-2021, 11:03 AM	#13
Boomcoach All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 846	I was watching the Denmark game live, and that was a very scary and emotional moment. I cannot imagine what it was like for the Danish players to be standing their in a cordon to give some privacy to Erickson and the medical staff, and being able to hear what was going on behind them. Just glad that it appears that he will make it. __________________

06-15-2021, 04:01 PM	#14
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 13,837	Cristiano Ronaldo remains the best - completely pedestrian game until the 85th minute, then knocks in a pair in a late 3-0 win over Hungary. Meanwhile, if Germany got off beaten by three by the French, that would already be a success... __________________ Portland Raccoons, 92 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here. Last edited by Westheim; 06-15-2021 at 04:04 PM.

06-15-2021, 06:27 PM	#15
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 13,837	Bright sides. No Frenchman scored a goal! __________________ Portland Raccoons, 92 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

06-16-2021, 07:35 PM	#19
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	The German team is still a bit of a mess. Low has one foot out the door and is leaving as soon as the tournament is over. The squad is a mix of young and raw players and older players who are past their primes. I would rather he play the young players and get bounced in the group stages rather than play a mixture of the two. After this tournament, Germany needs to find a manager and staff that is committed to the future and nurture it's next generation and work on making sure it qualifies for the 2022 WC in November ( ) The biggest issue is not the defence but the lack of an attack. The defence is going to look bad when it is under constant pressure. And past German teams were better at ball control and sustained attacks that allowed their defence time to rest or even let their fullbacks and centre backs join the attack.