Is anyone tired of seeing same players on 20+ teams each week!

[Bunktown Ballers]

Originally Posted by bailey

The only way to improve is to win packs in tournaments. That's absolutely right. You don't need to be lucky, you need to be good. 15-20 packs a day good. Plus, watch the streams for 25-30 packs a week. Between now and PT23 that's 5000+ packs. If you can't build a strong team with 5000+ packs then something is wrong, but it's not the game being poorly designed.

DEEP POCKETS allows you win also ..so the statement the ONLY WAY TO IMPROVE is to win packs in tournaments is not true. How does one find time in a day to play enough tourneys to win 15-20 packs and maintain 3 Perfect Team rosters and schedules & games. You must have a crew gathered around a long table or something

[chazzycat]

Not to be an a-hole, but dude. Just last week, you got crushed by a bunch of zero-money-spenders in BFF league. Maybe, just MAYBE it's time to stop blaming the "DEEP POCKETS". Just sayin'.

[bailey]

Originally Posted by Bunktown Ballers

DEEP POCKETS allows you win also ..so the statement the ONLY WAY TO IMPROVE is to win packs in tournaments is not true. How does one find time in a day to play enough tourneys to win 15-20 packs and maintain 3 Perfect Team rosters and schedules & games. You must have a crew gathered around a long table or something

Being retired helps a lot. Maintaining just ONE team helps a lot. Being a moron to spend so much time on a stupid game helps a lot.

[professor ape]

Originally Posted by bailey

Being retired helps a lot. Maintaining just ONE team helps a lot. Being a moron to spend so much time on a stupid game helps a lot.

AWESOME!!! I wish I could retire.

[JesseBarfield]

Random quick and somewhat silly thought - maybe each level should be restricted to only certain cards. Iron level can play iron and bronze cards. Bronze can play up to Silver. Silver up to Gold and so on. I'd argue that Gold level should be able to play Diamond and Perfect People would still gravitate towards the same cards at each level but it wouldn't be quite as limited of a focus.

[dkgo]

If you only want to play a certain level of card that's what tournaments are for.

All the best cards coming from missions that anyone can do is what leads to the staleness. It happens at the level where everyone has the live missions then again at the top.

At least in PT20, which IMO is still the best version of the game, the elite TOTD and HOF cards were in packs so there was a bit more variety. On top of that two of the best SP were Cy and Walter available in packs from the start of the game along with several other day one cards that were playable until the very end.

[professor ape]

Originally Posted by dkgo

If you only want to play a certain level of card that's what tournaments are for.

All the best cards coming from missions that anyone can do is what leads to the staleness. It happens at the level where everyone has the live missions then again at the top.

At least in PT20, which IMO is still the best version of the game, the elite TOTD and HOF cards were in packs so there was a bit more variety. On top of that two of the best SP were Cy and Walter available in packs from the start of the game along with several other day one cards that were playable until the very end.

I agree that more truly top tier cards need to be available in packs.

[daves]

If it wasn’t for the Perfect draft I am not sure I would be playing PT22?

Been waiting for years for OOTPGO!!


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[Ofan1987]

I think the fix for this is tweaking the live missions, making the prize for completion a random silver, gold or diamond player from that team. Players would still build a large portion of their team through the live missions, which is a great tool for the f2P players, but at least there would be a lot of variety on the teams on PT.

[professor ape]

Originally Posted by Ofan1987

I think the fix for this is tweaking the live missions, making the prize for completion a random silver, gold or diamond player from that team. Players would still build a large portion of their team through the live missions, which is a great tool for the f2P players, but at least there would be a lot of variety on the teams on PT.

I think you are on to something but Silver feels low for completing a mission. I’d say that completing a first mission for a team (e.g. 15 players) randomly gives you one of five historical Gold players from that team in the 80-85 range. Finishing off the more complete team mission gives you a random historical Gold or Diamond card out of seven available. One would be a 95-99 level, one 93-94 level, two in the 90-92 range, and three Golds in the 85-89 range. That would give a lot more variety to the early team rosters and leave room for better cards to come later.

[thehuseman]

Originally Posted by professor ape

I agree that more truly top tier cards need to be available in packs.

I wonder if stronger LE cards would help. There are only 25 of each card. Might as well make them useable in Diamond and Perfect Leagues. Maybe?

[Leo_The_Lip]

Originally Posted by thehuseman

I wonder if stronger LE cards would help. There are only 25 of each card. Might as well make them useable in Diamond and Perfect Leagues. Maybe?

Yes, that did amaze me that the LE cards were basically unusable above iron or bronze. Perhaps I should not have been surprised by this since last week in PT21 I won my fifth copy of the Noah Syndergard Gold card in the Bronze tournament. I have never been able to even sell that one at any time.

[HemBear]

I think the issue is that certain of these legend cards are so powerful in the game that, if you want to compete at a high level, you have to use these cards at their positions. That leads to a LOT of similar team makes ups. What I would love to see is say five competing CF missions which all are fairly equal, which would,lead to some variety at that position.

[Torgonius]

I'd change the division and league toppers from set cards to packs..
Complete any division, get a diamond pack that will get you any historical diamond from that division. For the AL, NL and MLB completions, a perfect pack.

For the teams, depending on how 'difficult' the mission was to complete, a gold or diamond pack that got you a historical player from that team.

I really enjoyed the gold packs as rewards in the live missions. It helped teams get some good cards, or sale pieces, while creating some diversity.

[ncap99]

If I gave everyone a chance to build the best all time team from a snapshot in history of any player, I'm sure a lot of you would choose 5-6 of the same players. Maybe you'd build the best defensive team ever and get a bunch of pitch to contact guys. Maybe you'd load up on 3 outcomes guys and power pitchers. But there are a handful of players at their peak that are going to make most every one of your rosters. Now filter that pool down to less than 1% of the season snapshots of every player over every season, now a lot more of you are going to have similar players. Now make it so some of the very good (maybe not best) players are available to you right now and the other ones you can't call up until July...even less diversity.

That is basically what its like right now. As more missions, cards, live adjustments, etc happen the pool will get bigger and diversity will increase. But there will still be a group that gets played by every diamond+ league team from now until OOTP23 just like there would be if I gave you the choice of any players in history to put on your real life roster.

[HRBaker]

Original post removed. The problem remains - we can't use PT in the sense of true baseball competition because the purpose is different.. PT is high competition, power card collecting, not real baseball. It would be nice if the high power cards were less available (which would drive up the price of the middle tier cards and put more variation into the rosters), but that would likely break the business model.

[professor ape]

How are you all feeling about the new cards from the team missions?

[stan-theman]

Great to see some new players..now if i could just get lucky and catch a couple in packs!!

[ncap99]

Originally Posted by professor ape

How are you all feeling about the new cards from the team missions?

There are a few instant meta cards in there and the missions are waaaaaaay easier to complete than the negro league missions or build a legend perfects. This really should help out the mid tier teams or really good free to play people a ton. There are a ton of solid filler diamonds in there, hell even a few of the golds are playable at diamond level I think.

For the top teams this probably impacts mostly the starting rotation. I think 2-3 guys are viable, but Joe Wood for sure. Perfect Chapman probably finds a home on every team. I think Bagwell is probably the best 1B at this point.

Overall it is just a massive power creep in the mid tier (high gold/low diamond). Probably good overall but we'll see. I think the next tier of rewards will be really interesting, where you'll need the team mission and the perfect build a legend to progress. Those cards are going to have to be pretty nuts to make it worth the investment.

[professor ape]

Originally Posted by ncap99

There are a few instant meta cards in there and the missions are waaaaaaay easier to complete than the negro league missions or build a legend perfects. This really should help out the mid tier teams or really good free to play people a ton. There are a ton of solid filler diamonds in there, hell even a few of the golds are playable at diamond level I think.

For the top teams this probably impacts mostly the starting rotation. I think 2-3 guys are viable, but Joe Wood for sure. Perfect Chapman probably finds a home on every team. I think Bagwell is probably the best 1B at this point.

Overall it is just a massive power creep in the mid tier (high gold/low diamond). Probably good overall but we'll see. I think the next tier of rewards will be really interesting, where you'll need the team mission and the perfect build a legend to progress. Those cards are going to have to be pretty nuts to make it worth the investment.

I agree with your assessment. I just wrapped up my next target with the Tony Fernandez BAL card. My next two goals are probably going to take a week or two.