Possible Cheating? - Page 2

CommishJoe · 10-29-2003, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by SirOrion
::coughs:: This is my league, just so you all know the background of what's going on here, I accused mfitterer of cheating in his league so now he's trying to get back at me.

My league is currently in it's second season, 2004. We obviously started 2003. We used the 2002 stats from TotalMinors. I downloaded the file early/mid July, don't know what edition it is but oh well. Eyre and Rhodes I signed as free agents and I offered atleast a 1 million to 2 million more than any one else, which is why they are on my team. Foppert I traded for late in the offseason of 2003/2004 (actually 2004/2005 season). You can see who I traded. And all the spects that I acquired, you can see who I traded and you can also see their player development. I hope you all don't feel I cheated, but whatever your opinion is, well, your opinion.

You wouldnt happen to use BOSI would you? If not, do you have a league file from before and after you acquired these players? If you do, contact me, and I'll load em up on the Central server and people can see how they developed for themselves. That would put this argument to rest once and for all .. if it ever got started in the first place

Jury is still out on that one.

Cowboys3356 · 10-29-2003, 10:59 AM

It would appear the only cheater around here is the mfitterer and his antics never seem to stop. Now he is trying to bring down the good name of an innocent bystander who merely rejected the mfitterer's cheating in another league.

Will the madness never end?!?!?

mfitterer1 · 10-29-2003, 11:05 AM

I think that he should do what commish joe said to do, if I had known you could do that when i was accused I would have given him the 2 files to cloear my name.

And dont you think you would maybe be inclined to bump a player up that you knew would be a FA if you knew the team couldnt resign him, and wouldnt you try and do that to make it look like you didnt edit the ratings, because "they were good last year as well".

Just a hunch but these guys never should have been rated that high, and when I looked in his player development, it constantly had guys with the high ratings dropping down from where they were a little bit, not much but a little, showing that he bumped the ratings and they were slowly coming down becuse they werent bumped in the talent area.

M_Bowers · 10-29-2003, 11:11 AM

To my recollection, when somebody's rating goes down, it's only the talent rating. So when you look in player development, atleast any time I ever did. It wouldn't say Joe Schmo went down from 4 to 3. Your arguement has nothing to it...you should stop while you aren't ahead.

-Mark Bowers

CommishJoe · 10-29-2003, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by mfitterer1
I think that he should do what commish joe said to do, if I had known you could do that when i was accused I would have given him the 2 files to cloear my name.

And dont you think you would maybe be inclined to bump a player up that you knew would be a FA if you knew the team couldnt resign him, and wouldnt you try and do that to make it look like you didnt edit the ratings, because "they were good last year as well".

Just a hunch but these guys never should have been rated that high, and when I looked in his player development, it constantly had guys with the high ratings dropping down from where they were a little bit, not much but a little, showing that he bumped the ratings and they were slowly coming down becuse they werent bumped in the talent area.

I did make the offer ..

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...0&pagenumber=7

About mid way down.

CommishJoe · 10-29-2003, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by M_Bowers
To my recollection, when somebody's rating goes down, it's only the talent rating. So when you look in player development, atleast any time I ever did. It wouldn't say Joe Schmo went down from 4 to 3. Your arguement has nothing to it...you should stop while you aren't ahead.

-Mark Bowers

BOSI reports rating changes as well as talent changes.

mfitterer1 · 10-29-2003, 11:30 AM

Not to mention usually with an experienced vet when their talent rating goes down then so does there general ratings.

draven085 · 10-29-2003, 11:33 AM

This thread is proof that the Fit Dog is just an attention seeking troll.

ey215 · 10-29-2003, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by draven085
This thread is proof that the Fit Dog is just an attention seeking troll.

*ding* We have a winner!

mfitterer1 · 10-29-2003, 11:55 AM

No I'm just trying to alert people he is a cheater, I'm not gonna show him benefit of the doubt when I wasnt shown benefit of the doubt. I truely believe that he is cheating off his ass, unusual that Boston in a 2nd year league should have that high of a farm system. Thats just messed up.

draven085 · 10-29-2003, 12:09 PM

Yeah unusual for your leagues where you have all the good prospects, right? How is starting a thread about him cheating giving him the benefit of the doubt? Moron

LivnLegend · 10-29-2003, 01:04 PM

At the risk of Truthserum calling me an "elitist" again, I think mfitterer is pretty close to the point where his posting privileges are being abused.

adventureran · 10-29-2003, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by LivnLegend
At the risk of Truthserum calling me an "elitist" again, I think mfitterer is pretty close to the point where his posting privileges are being abused.

Amen.

CommishJoe · 10-29-2003, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by LivnLegend
At the risk of Truthserum calling me an "elitist" again, I think mfitterer is pretty close to the point where his posting privileges are being abused.

You're not the first person I've heard this opinion from. Just the first one to voice it publically

MTXperience · 10-29-2003, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by CommishJoe
You're not the first person I've heard this opinion from. Just the first one to voice it publically

I thought it was a communal shared thought that didn't need voicing...

mfitterer1 · 10-29-2003, 04:08 PM

The funny thing is if I switched to a different username, then you guys would traet me just fine, so why not leave me alone the way it is right now.

Cowboys3356 · 10-29-2003, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by mfitterer1
The funny thing is if I switched to a different username, then you guys would traet me just fine, so why not leave me alone the way it is right now.

Maybe everything would be fine at first but it wouldn't take long for you to engage in your trademark foolishness and you would be exposed. Changing your username doesn't seem like it will do any good.

gpm22 · 10-29-2003, 05:25 PM

First of all, it takes one to know one.

Second of all, Fitterer, nobody is ever going to give you a second chance. You never owned up to your own cheating. Go away.

AccardoOutfit29 · 10-29-2003, 07:22 PM

He's the FIT DOG! How could you not believe him?

twins15 · 10-29-2003, 07:43 PM

He said they are using the TotalMinor's, and it might just be me, but I remember Rhodes and Eyre being that good on that particular roster set. In other words, no, I doubt he is cheating.

10-29-2003, 01:04 PM	#32
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	At the risk of Truthserum calling me an "elitist" again, I think mfitterer is pretty close to the point where his posting privileges are being abused. __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

10-29-2003, 07:43 PM	#40
twins15 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Area 51 Posts: 4,792	He said they are using the TotalMinor's, and it might just be me, but I remember Rhodes and Eyre being that good on that particular roster set. In other words, no, I doubt he is cheating. __________________ "Ah man we're just hungry man" - Dovonte Edwards Bismarck Boy Scouts of the OTBL - league yes-man Ross Gload at baseball-reference.com Book Quotes and Book Lists

10-29-2003, 10:59 AM	#22
Cowboys3356 All Star Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,571	It would appear the only cheater around here is the mfitterer and his antics never seem to stop. Now he is trying to bring down the good name of an innocent bystander who merely rejected the mfitterer's cheating in another league. Will the madness never end?!?!?

10-29-2003, 11:05 AM	#23
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	I think that he should do what commish joe said to do, if I had known you could do that when i was accused I would have given him the 2 files to cloear my name. And dont you think you would maybe be inclined to bump a player up that you knew would be a FA if you knew the team couldnt resign him, and wouldnt you try and do that to make it look like you didnt edit the ratings, because "they were good last year as well". Just a hunch but these guys never should have been rated that high, and when I looked in his player development, it constantly had guys with the high ratings dropping down from where they were a little bit, not much but a little, showing that he bumped the ratings and they were slowly coming down becuse they werent bumped in the talent area.

10-29-2003, 11:11 AM	#24
M_Bowers Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 38	To my recollection, when somebody's rating goes down, it's only the talent rating. So when you look in player development, atleast any time I ever did. It wouldn't say Joe Schmo went down from 4 to 3. Your arguement has nothing to it...you should stop while you aren't ahead. -Mark Bowers

10-29-2003, 11:30 AM	#27
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	Not to mention usually with an experienced vet when their talent rating goes down then so does there general ratings.

10-29-2003, 11:33 AM	#28
draven085 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,074	This thread is proof that the Fit Dog is just an attention seeking troll.

10-29-2003, 11:55 AM	#30
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	No I'm just trying to alert people he is a cheater, I'm not gonna show him benefit of the doubt when I wasnt shown benefit of the doubt. I truely believe that he is cheating off his ass, unusual that Boston in a 2nd year league should have that high of a farm system. Thats just messed up.

10-29-2003, 12:09 PM	#31
draven085 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,074	Yeah unusual for your leagues where you have all the good prospects, right? How is starting a thread about him cheating giving him the benefit of the doubt? Moron

10-29-2003, 04:08 PM	#36
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	The funny thing is if I switched to a different username, then you guys would traet me just fine, so why not leave me alone the way it is right now.

10-29-2003, 05:25 PM	#38
gpm22 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 513	First of all, it takes one to know one. Second of all, Fitterer, nobody is ever going to give you a second chance. You never owned up to your own cheating. Go away.

10-29-2003, 07:22 PM	#39
AccardoOutfit29 All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 531	He's the FIT DOG! How could you not believe him?