Maybe he prefers Jeopardy!?

[Déjà Bru]

He made no secret of his desire to become the permanent host of Jeopardy!, but he also made clear that he wanted to continue to play football at the same time. So, no, that's not it.

Apparently, the reason why Aaron Rodgers does not want to return to the Packers this year, is this: "... the 'fracture points' between Rodgers and [Packers GM Brian] Gutekunst stem largely from the latter's decision to trade up in the 2020 NFL draft to select Jordan Love without informing Rodgers."

Now, let's be realistic. Of course, a quarterback who just won his third MVP award and who is going to the Hall of Fame when he retires (and devotes his full time and attention to Jeopardy!) is going to get the deference that he obviously expects. Aaron Rodgers is no Sam Darnold.

But according to this article, it's being reported that Rodgers will not play for the Packers in 2021 unless Gutekunst is fired. This may be going a bit too far.

"Gutekunst is entering his 24th season with the Packers organization. The 47-year-old started as a scouting intern in 1997 and worked his way up through the front office. He was named general manager in January 2018."

It is going to be interesting to see how this impasse pans out.

[BMW]

I swear I saw this with my #1 draft pick in OOTP.

[Bub13]

I hope he holds out or retires. I want maximum chaos in my NFL off-season. And I say this as a Packers fan.

I mean, I wanted to quit the team when Lafleur wussed out and went for the FG in the championship game. Everyone in the world not named "Matt Lafleur" knew the Pack wasn't getting the ball back after that.

[Déjà Bru]

The thing is, Rodgers has very little leverage. People are comparing him to Brady and the success that guy had when he walked out of New England and arrived in Tampa Bay. The difference is, Brady was at the end of his contract while Rodgers still has three years left. What's he going to do, hold out? Retire?

Packers management can do just what they did in 2020: "Go ahead, Aaron, show us up. Get us another shot at the Super Bowl and win another MVP award while you're at it. And if you fall down instead, we'll trade you for Daniel Jones () and see if we can find us some Love ()

Non-sequitur: I looked up Love (the football player, not some cheesy dating website). Would it surprise you to know that Jordan Love received a $6.5 million signing bonus and a four-year, fully guaranteed contract worth $12,383,470? Mind you, he has yet to play a down in the NFL. Even if he never does, he will have made nearly $20 million. The waste of money in sports is staggering these days.

[cephasjames]

I'm with Terry Bradshaw on this one:

"He's a three-time MVP in the league and he's worried about this guy they drafted last year at No. 1?

"Here's what I'd do—I wouldn't budge," he said. "Let him gripe, let him cry—retire, you're 38, go ahead and retire, see you later."

Players get old. Teams need to prepare for when old players leave. If old players' egos can't handle that, that's on them. Rodgers was brought on to replace Favre. That's what happens. Rodgers is coming across as fragile to me.

[low]

Originally Posted by Bub13

I hope he holds out or retires. I want maximum chaos in my NFL off-season. And I say this as a Packers fan.

I mean, I wanted to quit the team when Lafleur wussed out and went for the FG in the championship game. Everyone in the world not named "Matt Lafleur" knew the Pack wasn't getting the ball back after that.

Why did you just make me relive that?

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by cephasjames

Players get old. Teams need to prepare for when old players leave. If old players' egos can't handle that, that's on them. Rodgers was brought on to replace Favre. That's what happens. Rodgers is coming across as fragile to me.

Bear in mind that the stated reason is that he wasn't "consulted." Which may be even worse.

So, if they asked his advice, he would have said "No, draft the WR instead"? The only thing in his favor may have been the lack of team courtesy in telling him that they were preparing for the future. If that was it, then he may have a beef. But if he wanted veto authority, that's arrogant.

I feel a bit sorry for Love. Imagine how he feels and how little guidance and support he is getting from Rodgers.

[thehef]

Not sure what Rodgers' main beef is. But if it's that the front office has spent the last several years - also most of Rodgers' final prime years - merely content to contend, but not really going for it, then his frustration might be justified. Add to that his age - 37 - and that the drafting of Love rather than a immediate impact player, and other moves & non-moves that don't really point to actually trying to win a title, I'd say it kinda adds up.

[vrobx1]

Looks like Rodgers learned well from Favre.

Maybe too well.

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[Bub13]

Originally Posted by low

Why did you just make me relive that?

I mean, I could have brought up 4th-and-26 instead.

[Bub13]

Originally Posted by thehef

Not sure what Rodgers' main beef is. But if it's that the front office has spent the last several years - also most of Rodgers' final prime years - merely content to contend, but not really going for it, then his frustration might be justified. Add to that his age - 37 - and that the drafting of Love rather than a immediate impact player, and other moves & non-moves that don't really point to actually trying to win a title, I'd say it kinda adds up.

It could be? Thing is, none of us knows what's going on behind the scenes, only what each party hopes to share. I can see arguments for both sides: "Rodgers is a diva b/c he's under contract and should just strap up and play," or "Green Bay isn't doing enough to take advantage of the rarity of a QB with his talent to go for it every year." My feeling is he'll be back and say that the stories were overblown, and it'll be grim-faced handshakes all around.

[Déjà Bru]

During today's Packers-Bears game:

It was what he [Aaron Rodgers] said in the Soldier Field end zone after his 6-yard touchdown scramble in the fourth quarter that sealed the Packers' 24-14 victory.

The FOX TV cameras -- and its microphones -- clearly picked up Rodgers' message to the Bears' faithful.

"All my f---ing life, I own you," Rodgers shouted as he was congratulated by his teammates. "I still own you. I still own you."

Jackass. Makes me kind of glad that he's not going to own Jeopardy!

[rudel.dietrich]

Aaron Rodgers does not have the leverage of Brady because he is not Brady.
Rodgers is a career 12-9 in the playoffs. He will be 38 in December.
He is playing well this season, but so far the only person to age like Brady has been Brady.

Rodgers is great but has underachieved for his talent level and the talent level of his teams.

The drafting of Jordan Love was probably not a smart move, however, when drafting a rookie QB you think is going to pop, you want to maximize the number of years that he is on his rookie deal so that it takes up less salary cap space.
Maybe the franchise knows more than we know and Love was too good to pass up in the second round.
But they could have taken another useful player in the second round and not wasted 2 of Loves rookie salary years.

[pstrickert]

As a GB fan, I've grown tired of 12. He's definitely changed, personality-wise, for the worse. My opinion only, of course. That said, if you look at GB's playoff losses during 12's tenure, the defense has given up 30-35 ppg (something like that). 12 hasn't always played lights-out, but the GB defense has rarely held up its end.

[Mancandy]

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

Rodgers is great but has underachieved for his talent level and the talent level of his teams.

I know this is primarily a baseball forum so maybe football isn’t your thing, but Aaron Rodgers has had as good an individual career as anybody who’s ever played the position in the history of the sport. This would kind of be like saying Clayton Kershaw or Mike Trout have underachieved for their talent level. And the Packers have consistently overachieved their collective talent level because of how great Rodgers is, which was one understandable reason why he was so justifiably discontent with the team.

As far as him trash talking the Bears fans, aside from the irony of this thread going from calling him fragile and a crybaby to getting offended by harmless trash talk, seeing half that exchange is meaningless. It tells us nothing without hearing or seeing what the Bears fans said first. There’s nothing wrong with what Rodgers said in and of itself, and there’s plenty of things that could make it a perfectly reasonable response.

Non-sequitar: would it surprise you to know the Green Bay Packers are worth $3,48 billion? Billion, with a B. And they brought in $507,000,000 in 2020, ~0.5% of which went to Jordan Love. To make sure they had a backup, or an insurance policy, in case there was an injury in a sport where less than half the players at his position play every game in a given season. I’m not aware of any billion dollar business that doesn’t pay good money to cover their bases if something goes wrong…if such a business does exist, they’re probably not going to be a billion dollar business for very long.

[rudel.dietrich]

Originally Posted by Mancandy

I know this is primarily a baseball forum so maybe football isn’t your thing, but Aaron Rodgers has had as good an individual career as anybody who’s ever played the position in the history of the sport. This would kind of be like saying Clayton Kershaw or Mike Trout have underachieved for their talent level. And the Packers have consistently overachieved their collective talent level because of how great Rodgers is, which was one understandable reason why he was so justifiably discontent with the team.

As far as him trash talking the Bears fans, aside from the irony of this thread going from calling him fragile and a crybaby to getting offended by harmless trash talk, seeing half that exchange is meaningless. It tells us nothing without hearing or seeing what the Bears fans said first. There’s nothing wrong with what Rodgers said in and of itself, and there’s plenty of things that could make it a perfectly reasonable response.

Non-sequitar: would it surprise you to know the Green Bay Packers are worth $3,48 billion? Billion, with a B. And they brought in $507,000,000 in 2020, ~0.5% of which went to Jordan Love. To make sure they had a backup, or an insurance policy, in case there was an injury in a sport where less than half the players at his position play every game in a given season. I’m not aware of any billion dollar business that doesn’t pay good money to cover their bases if something goes wrong…if such a business does exist, they’re probably not going to be a billion dollar business for very long.

I should have used more words to explain what I meant.
Rodgers is one of the most talented QBs ever, perhaps the greatest pure talent until Mahomes showed up.

But you would expect him to have won more by this point, and he has not.

And team worth has nothing to do with the salary cap.
Do you understand the salary cap? It seems like you do not.

The most successful teams outside of New England the past 20 years or so have maximized their success by using a very small % of the salary cap on a good rookie QB and using that cap money elsewhere.

Drafting a QB in the second round and wasting some of those rookie salary years is a mistake IMO.

[thehef]

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

Rodgers is one of the most talented QBs ever, perhaps the greatest pure talent until Mahomes showed up.

But you would expect him to have won more by this point, and he has not.

Yes. However:

Originally Posted by thehef

Not sure what Rodgers' main beef is. But if it's that the front office has spent the last several years - also most of Rodgers' final prime years - merely content to contend, but not really going for it, then his frustration might be justified. Add to that his age - 37 - and that the drafting of Love rather than a immediate impact player, and other moves & non-moves that don't really point to actually trying to win a title, I'd say it kinda adds up.

At any rate:

It was what he [Aaron Rodgers] said in the Soldier Field end zone after his 6-yard touchdown scramble in the fourth quarter that sealed the Packers' 24-14 victory.

The FOX TV cameras -- and its microphones -- clearly picked up Rodgers' message to the Bears' faithful.

"All my f---ing life, I own you," Rodgers shouted as he was congratulated by his teammates. "I still own you. I still own you."

Unnecessarily douchy behavior. If the taunting rules applied player-to-fans, he'd have been flagged.

[statfreak]

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

But you would expect him to have won more by this point, and he has not.

Rodgers doesn't play defense and can only throw the ball to the players they put around him.

Blaming Rodgers for the Packers postseason losses is the same as saying wins are the most important stat for pitchers.

If you had switched Rodgers and Brady, Rodgers would have most likely matched or exceeded what Brady did with the Patriots. Rodgers is simply more skilled (not a knock on Brady, he has worked hard and has had a great career). The Packers have rarely put the same caliber of players around Rodgers as Brady had in New England and now Tampa.

Once Rodgers leaves Green Bay, the team will be worse for it. Jordan Love may be a good a QB, but it is unlikely he is the next Rodgers or Mahomes. The Packers are probably a 1-5 or 2-4 team this season without Rodgers at QB.

[monkeyman576]

Apparently he lied about being vaccinated, or at least he strongly implied that he was. This could change a lot about his future as both a player with another team(do the Denver Broncos want him now?) or as a Jeopardy host.

[cephasjames]

Rodgers never said he was vaccinated. He said he was immunized. That being said, vaccinated people can still test positive for covid.