Man on 2nd 10th inning rule

24Rocks · 04-02-2021, 02:26 PM

This rule has been debated and talked about for a while and especially over on my twitter timeline, while I have given it a chance both in real baseball & in my own universe I have come to the conclusion I think its good but would be great with a change.

While the strategy is super interesting I would much rather have the extra runner rule be around starting in the 11th or 12th inning so that the games don't go on too long which is still possible but the natural getting to extra innings isn't ruined right in the 10th but if it still tied then changing the rules.

Is it possible that OOTP could add those as options because this would be awesome to add to my universe if it wasn't the 10th inning.

slugga27 · 04-02-2021, 03:33 PM

With all due respect, I don't think this rule is here to stay. Worst case, it goes out the door with Manfred.

24Rocks · 04-02-2021, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by slugga27

With all due respect, I don't think this rule is here to stay. Worst case, it goes out the door with Manfred.

That's fair and I don't think it will survive the next CBA either but doesn't mean it wont stay as a option in OOTP and a better option would be this rule in the 11th or 12th.

TomVeal · 04-02-2021, 03:58 PM

I certainly hope that this ridiculous rule vanishes soon from MLB. Perhaps it's defensible in lower minor leagues and amateur play, and I see no harm in OOTP's retaining it for those who like it. But I agree with the OP that there ought to be options to put the spare runner on base later than the tenth inning. Don't some Asian leagues postpone him till the 12th?

slugga27 · 04-02-2021, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TomVeal

I certainly hope that this ridiculous rule vanishes soon from MLB. Perhaps it's defensible in lower minor leagues and amateur play, and I see no harm in OOTP's retaining it for those who like it. But I agree with the OP that there ought to be options to put the spare runner on base later than the tenth inning. Don't some Asian leagues postpone him till the 12th?

You're being too kind. It had no business being anywhere near professional baseball. The only place this rule belongs is where the game must end before dark.

cheo25 · 04-02-2021, 04:03 PM

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You're being too kind. It had no business being anywhere near professional baseball. The only place this rule belongs is where the game must end before dark.

Rob Manfred may be the worst commissioner MLB has ever had. It would be hard to be worse than Bud Selig, but Manfred is right there with him.

slugga27 · 04-02-2021, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cheo25

Rob Manfred may be the worst commissioner MLB has ever had. It would be hard to be worse than Bud Selig, but Manfred is right there with him.

Manfred makes Bud Selig look like Mother Teresa.

TomVeal · 04-02-2021, 06:03 PM

My theory is that Mr. Manfred was cut from his Little League team and has devoted his life to seeking revenge against baseball.

Bunktown Ballers · 04-02-2021, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cheo25

Rob Manfred may be the worst commissioner MLB has ever had. It would be hard to be worse than Bud Selig, but Manfred is right there with him.

May be? Not even close. I don't think he even put cleats on or had a leather baseball glove on either hand. He was a homebody that played spades & rummy with mom & grandma while other kids were outside throwing or shooting a ball somewhere

mtopham · 04-02-2021, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TomVeal

My theory is that Mr. Manfred was cut from his Little League team and has devoted his life to seeking revenge against baseball.

+1

Worst rule ever? It just may be - even worse than the DH...

TuckerDuckson · 04-02-2021, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by slugga27

You're being too kind. It had no business being anywhere near professional baseball. The only place this rule belongs is where the game must end before dark.

Yeah, it's kinda lame. I play in the minors, or well I have the ability to now, and it's just weird. I had a fall league game last year end in extras due to it and it's just very deflating losing like that. Like, I wasn't the one who put him on second, but I get charged for the loss? I don't know.

Ktulu · 04-02-2021, 11:48 PM

Good suggestion.

And for the record I think I like the rule. Extra inning games are way more interesting now. In an age where every game is televised the novelty of marathon games with position players pitching has long since died off.

Baseball needs to evolve. If your sport’s regular season “overtime” is boring, you have a problem. A runner on 2nd adds a much needed sense of urgency. Both teams get an opportunity to win the game and I don’t care that the home team has a strategic advantage. It adds actual interesting strategy (without having to watch pitchers try to hit

) and can even have an influence on roster construction (increases value of pinch hitters & runners and lessens the need for reliever roster churn).

Hell let’s get really crazy. HR Shootout! Each team pick your pitcher, pick your batter. 10 pitches, any ball (as determined by roboumps) after 5 pitches not in the zone counts as a HR. Tied after round 1? Do it again.

Bobbyraz49 · 04-03-2021, 02:10 PM

Don't blame Manfred. He is doing EXACTLY what the owners are telling him to do.

Boom Boom · 04-03-2021, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by slugga27

With all due respect, I don't think this rule is here to stay. Worst case, it goes out the door with Manfred.

I hope Manfred gets fired and they hire Marcus! lol

Pelican · 04-03-2021, 02:55 PM

I don't even agree with the premise of the rule - that games are too long. I love extra inning games. For one thing, more baseball for the price (huge) of my ticket. And, by definition, the most exciting kind of baseball. Using artificial, contrived, simplistic rules borrowed from tee ball is pathetic. Let the teams play as long as it takes in the way they have for a hundred and fifty years now. It has been described as a "COVID Rule", which makes no sense whatsoever; but maybe an excuse to quietly abandon it, when/ir the virus is contained?

andyhdz · 04-03-2021, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican

I don't even agree with the premise of the rule - that games are too long. I love extra inning games. For one thing, more baseball for the price (huge) of my ticket. And, by definition, the most exciting kind of baseball. Using artificial, contrived, simplistic rules borrowed from tee ball is pathetic. Let the teams play as long as it takes in the way they have for a hundred and fifty years now. It has been described as a "COVID Rule", which makes no sense whatsoever; but maybe an excuse to quietly abandon it, when/ir the virus is contained?

150 years ago pitchers had to pitch underhand and ground rule doubles counted as homers.

slugga27 · 04-03-2021, 04:28 PM

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I hope Manfred gets fired and they hire Marcus! lol

I’d rather they hire Markus.

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SirSaab · 04-03-2021, 04:43 PM

MLB: “We have two 2020 rule changes we could adopt permanently, one proved very popular with fans (even many “purists”), justifies 26-man rosters, prevents unnecessary injuries to increasingly-valuable pitchers, and keeps typically popular aging hitters who have declined in the field employed. The other is highly controversial, and not widely accepted by fans or players. Let’s go ahead and adopt the latter!”

That’s about right. Smh

TomVeal · 04-03-2021, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by andyhdz

150 years ago pitchers had to pitch underhand and ground rule doubles counted as homers.

And it took me only a hundred years to accept changing those. Ask me about the tee-ball rule in 2120.

SirSaab · 04-03-2021, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TomVeal

And it took me only a hundred years to accept changing those. Ask me about the tee-ball rule in 2120.

Ok, What do you think about runners on 2nd in extras in 2120?

04-02-2021, 02:26 PM	#1
24Rocks All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scarborough, Ontario, Canada Posts: 808	Man on 2nd 10th inning rule This rule has been debated and talked about for a while and especially over on my twitter timeline, while I have given it a chance both in real baseball & in my own universe I have come to the conclusion I think its good but would be great with a change. While the strategy is super interesting I would much rather have the extra runner rule be around starting in the 11th or 12th inning so that the games don't go on too long which is still possible but the natural getting to extra innings isn't ruined right in the 10th but if it still tied then changing the rules. Is it possible that OOTP could add those as options because this would be awesome to add to my universe if it wasn't the 10th inning. __________________ Jonny Former OOTP Online leagues: LOHO: Detroit Tigers ISL: San Diego Padres VSL: Pittsburgh Pirates NPBL: Ohio Raptors/Nova Scotia Fishermen AFBL:Ontario Blue Pirates Check you my YOUTUBE or TWITCH

04-02-2021, 11:48 PM	#12
Ktulu Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: BC Posts: 4,506	Good suggestion. And for the record I think I like the rule. Extra inning games are way more interesting now. In an age where every game is televised the novelty of marathon games with position players pitching has long since died off. Baseball needs to evolve. If your sport’s regular season “overtime” is boring, you have a problem. A runner on 2nd adds a much needed sense of urgency. Both teams get an opportunity to win the game and I don’t care that the home team has a strategic advantage. It adds actual interesting strategy (without having to watch pitchers try to hit ) and can even have an influence on roster construction (increases value of pinch hitters & runners and lessens the need for reliever roster churn). Hell let’s get really crazy. HR Shootout! Each team pick your pitcher, pick your batter. 10 pitches, any ball (as determined by roboumps) after 5 pitches not in the zone counts as a HR. Tied after round 1? Do it again. __________________ "The ice is getting even more thinner, my friend!"

04-03-2021, 02:55 PM	#15
Pelican Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Wilmington, Delaware Posts: 2,999	Tee Ball Rule I don't even agree with the premise of the rule - that games are too long. I love extra inning games. For one thing, more baseball for the price (huge) of my ticket. And, by definition, the most exciting kind of baseball. Using artificial, contrived, simplistic rules borrowed from tee ball is pathetic. Let the teams play as long as it takes in the way they have for a hundred and fifty years now. It has been described as a "COVID Rule", which makes no sense whatsoever; but maybe an excuse to quietly abandon it, when/ir the virus is contained?

04-03-2021, 04:43 PM	#18
SirSaab Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 283	MLB: “We have two 2020 rule changes we could adopt permanently, one proved very popular with fans (even many “purists”), justifies 26-man rosters, prevents unnecessary injuries to increasingly-valuable pitchers, and keeps typically popular aging hitters who have declined in the field employed. The other is highly controversial, and not widely accepted by fans or players. Let’s go ahead and adopt the latter!” That’s about right. Smh __________________ “Lady, I’m not an athlete. I’m a professional baseball player.” - John Kruk

04-02-2021, 03:33 PM	#2
slugga27 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,272	With all due respect, I don't think this rule is here to stay. Worst case, it goes out the door with Manfred.

04-02-2021, 03:58 PM	#4
TomVeal All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Spanaway, Washington Posts: 1,242	I certainly hope that this ridiculous rule vanishes soon from MLB. Perhaps it's defensible in lower minor leagues and amateur play, and I see no harm in OOTP's retaining it for those who like it. But I agree with the OP that there ought to be options to put the spare runner on base later than the tenth inning. Don't some Asian leagues postpone him till the 12th?

04-02-2021, 06:03 PM	#8
TomVeal All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Spanaway, Washington Posts: 1,242	My theory is that Mr. Manfred was cut from his Little League team and has devoted his life to seeking revenge against baseball.

04-03-2021, 02:10 PM	#13
Bobbyraz49 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 933	Don't blame Manfred. He is doing EXACTLY what the owners are telling him to do.