Updated default roster sets and player ratings

ram22469 · 03-31-2021, 07:09 PM

The new patch notes include

* Updated default roster sets and player ratings (need to start a new game for changes to apply)

Does anyone know the extent of these changes? Basically just wondering if it's enough that I should start a new game (only about a season in currently) or if it wouldn't be worth it. Thanks.

peji911 · 04-01-2021, 09:39 AM

Odor still on the Rangers so I'm not sure how updated the rosters are...

Lukas Berger · 04-01-2021, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by peji911

Odor still on the Rangers so I'm not sure how updated the rosters are...

They're updated as of like Monday iirc.

The Live Start should at least clean up stuff like Odor if you use that for now.

JamesN · 04-01-2021, 10:43 AM

I'm assuming the roster update for opening day will have Lindor's contract added?

Lukas Berger · 04-01-2021, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesN

I'm assuming the roster update for opening day will have Lindor's contract added?

Yes!

willboat75 · 04-01-2021, 12:14 PM

When is the next roster update coming? Today?

sethtearz · 04-01-2021, 12:17 PM

Does the Steam update automatically update the rosters? Or do I also need to patch as well? Thanks.

Lukas Berger · 04-01-2021, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by willboat75

When is the next roster update coming? Today?

The next roster update won't be until the next patch, likely sometime next week, but the Live start should at least clean a few things (trades, releases etc if not so much ratings changes) up if you use that in the meantime.

Lukas Berger · 04-01-2021, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sethtearz

Does the Steam update automatically update the rosters? Or do I also need to patch as well? Thanks.

Steam will usually auto install the patches, and any roster updates come in the patches. But you do have to create a new save to get the updates after the patch is installed.

sethtearz · 04-01-2021, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Steam will usually auto install the patches, and any roster updates come in the patches. But you do have to create a new save to get the updates after the patch is installed.

So Steam downloaded something this morning when I opened. I went to check Lindor's contract after setting up a New Standard game, and he's still in the last year of his contract. Does that mean I need to manually install the patch?

Thanks.

slugga27 · 04-01-2021, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sethtearz

So Steam downloaded something this morning when I opened. I went to check Lindor's contract after setting up a New Standard game, and he's still in the last year of his contract. Does that mean I need to manually install the patch?

Thanks.

No. Lindor’s contract was not part of this latest patch. Didn’t he sign late yesterday?

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sethtearz · 04-01-2021, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by slugga27

No. Lindor’s contract was not part of this latest patch. Didn’t he sign late yesterday?

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Okay, so to get the Lindor contract, i'll have to wait for the patch #2 next week? Thanks.

Gussy · 04-01-2021, 01:03 PM

I did a live start, it's still pretty far off from opening day lineups, waiting to start a Cubs solo and it didn't have the Wolters signing, still had Marquez in the bigs, Alzolay in AAA. If you're wanting accurate rosters probably best bet to wait for next patch I suppose

Matt Arnold · 04-01-2021, 01:06 PM

Yeah, the Live Start won't necessarily have opening day rosters either, since it runs a full AI update after importing the data, and obviously will not have any of the most recent roster updates.

Gussy · 04-01-2021, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Yeah, the Live Start won't necessarily have opening day rosters either, since it runs a full AI update after importing the data, and obviously will not have any of the most recent roster updates.

Would that all be updated tomorrow then? Although I suppose then it would start on 4/2 and not 41

Matt Arnold · 04-01-2021, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gussy

Would that all be updated tomorrow then? Although I suppose then it would start on 4/2 and not 41

Live start won't get 100% accurate rosters anytime, just because actual MLB rosters have so much flux to them. Players get placed on weird holding lists, and the data we get from our service provider unfortunately doesn't just give a pure "on roster" vs "off roster". Never mind that as soon as you go to play games or sim a day, the AI will still take over and adjust things.

Gussy · 04-01-2021, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Live start won't get 100% accurate rosters anytime, just because actual MLB rosters have so much flux to them. Players get placed on weird holding lists, and the data we get from our service provider unfortunately doesn't just give a pure "on roster" vs "off roster". Never mind that as soon as you go to play games or sim a day, the AI will still take over and adjust things.

Are you anticipating we'll get an opening day roster update next week then?

Lukas Berger · 04-01-2021, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gussy

Are you anticipating we'll get an opening day roster update next week then?

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Well, your OD roster will never be perfect, even once we release the patch with the OD rosters since it's ultimately up to the AI who to put where.

But at least the OD rosters will have some ratings changes etc to encourage the AI to make the 'right' choice as often as possible.

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Right, that's kind of what I'm referring to as to the AI having its own mind on things.

Just using your example though, I did a lot more tweaking and finally got the AI to send Herrera down after the last patch came out. So next patch should reflect that and have him start in AAA.

But the OD roster will never be perfect because sometimes there's just no way to 'make' the AI do the same thing the real team did. f.e. there's typically nothing we can do when the AI wants to keep a 9th RP for example when a RL team is only keeping 8 or vice-versa.

Or sometimes the AI wants to play service time games and keep a prospect down when the rl team isn't playing service time games. Or vice-versa. Again, not much we can do there.

Yes, most likely. But even then, like I said in this thread(and quoted above), the rosters will still never be 100% perfect, because the AI always plays into things.

So next weeks update will be closer to OD than what's in game now, but it still will not be totally accurate..

Fenway · 04-01-2021, 04:06 PM

So if I want to account for the changes in the Red Sox opening day lineup and rainout, should I ditch the game I started a few days ago (which is now up to April 1, today) and restart with a Live start?

There have been several changes. Eduardo Rodriguez is on the 10-day injury list; Tanner Houck has been called up from the minors to fill the #2 pitching slot; and Opening Day was postponed due to rain. If I do restart with a Live start, should I wait til tomorrow?

Erich Ingram · 04-01-2021, 10:32 PM

Since he started Opening Day in CF for the Phillies can we remove the groin injury for Adam Haseley so that he is available to play.

03-31-2021, 07:09 PM	#1
ram22469 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 5	Updated default roster sets and player ratings The new patch notes include * Updated default roster sets and player ratings (need to start a new game for changes to apply) Does anyone know the extent of these changes? Basically just wondering if it's enough that I should start a new game (only about a season in currently) or if it wouldn't be worth it. Thanks.

04-01-2021, 04:06 PM	#19
Fenway Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Back Bay in Boston Posts: 295	So if I want to account for the changes in the Red Sox opening day lineup and rainout, should I ditch the game I started a few days ago (which is now up to April 1, today) and restart with a Live start? There have been several changes. Eduardo Rodriguez is on the 10-day injury list; Tanner Houck has been called up from the minors to fill the #2 pitching slot; and Opening Day was postponed due to rain. If I do restart with a Live start, should I wait til tomorrow? __________________ Last edited by Fenway; 04-01-2021 at 04:09 PM.

04-01-2021, 10:32 PM	#20
Erich Ingram Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,201	Since he started Opening Day in CF for the Phillies can we remove the groin injury for Adam Haseley so that he is available to play. __________________ Erich Ingram (Rolen17) IOSBL San Diego Aztecs 2010, 2012,2013, 2014 World Series Champions Maelstrom Padres 2026 World Champions eMLB Washington Nationals

04-01-2021, 09:39 AM	#2
peji911 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 25	Odor still on the Rangers so I'm not sure how updated the rosters are...

04-01-2021, 10:43 AM	#4
JamesN Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 22	I'm assuming the roster update for opening day will have Lindor's contract added?

04-01-2021, 12:14 PM	#6
willboat75 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Detroit Posts: 188	When is the next roster update coming? Today?

04-01-2021, 12:17 PM	#7
sethtearz Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 34	Does the Steam update automatically update the rosters? Or do I also need to patch as well? Thanks.

04-01-2021, 01:03 PM	#13
Gussy Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 28	I did a live start, it's still pretty far off from opening day lineups, waiting to start a Cubs solo and it didn't have the Wolters signing, still had Marquez in the bigs, Alzolay in AAA. If you're wanting accurate rosters probably best bet to wait for next patch I suppose

04-01-2021, 01:06 PM	#14
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,872	Yeah, the Live Start won't necessarily have opening day rosters either, since it runs a full AI update after importing the data, and obviously will not have any of the most recent roster updates.