Where Should I Buy 22 From?

The Game · 03-26-2021, 08:50 AM

i normally buy from the webstore, should i continue that trend? Is there any advantage to ordering from Steam?

Also i run OOTP on my x Drive, should i download the single folder version?

how does PT know that I own 19-21? I want to delete 19 from my X drive. Should i do that after i download 22 and get Pt set up? i want those extra packs.

Not buying til sometime this afternoon.

slugga27 · 03-26-2021, 08:51 AM

For PT, it's based on your username. Deleting 19 won't affect the free packs.

Habsfan18 · 03-26-2021, 08:54 AM

The main advantage to ordering from steam is likely the fact that all version updates will automatically be downloaded and installed when logging onto your steam account, rather than having to download and install manually from the OOTP website.

GBN · 03-26-2021, 09:02 AM

If you buy directly from the website, the developers get all the revenue (I don't know how this is distributed with publishers etc.). If you get the game on Steam, Valve gets a certain share.

Markus Heinsohn · 03-26-2021, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GBN

If you buy directly from the website, the developers get all the revenue (I don't know how this is distributed with publishers etc.). If you get the game on Steam, Valve gets a certain share.

This. But then again, the more people buy on Steam, the better we get picked up by their algorithms and hence get discovered by more people, who in turn buy the game. So, it's probably a wash

GBN · 03-26-2021, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

This. But then again, the more people buy on Steam, the better we get picked up by their algorithms and hence get discovered by more people, who in turn buy the game. So, it's probably a wash

Probably

David Watts · 03-26-2021, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

This. But then again, the more people buy on Steam, the better we get picked up by their algorithms and hence get discovered by more people, who in turn buy the game. So, it's probably a wash

See I knew I was a good person. My momma always said so.

No longer will I hang my head in shame. When someone asks me why I purchased the game from Steam, knowing full well I wasn't giving all my money to OOTP, I can say I'm improving the algorithms baby, it's all about the algorithms. By the way, the Algorithms were the warmup band for the Kinks concert I attended at Cobo Hall back in 83. They rock.

Maddox · 03-26-2021, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

This. But then again, the more people buy on Steam, the better we get picked up by their algorithms and hence get discovered by more people, who in turn buy the game. So, it's probably a wash

Hey, your currently the top seller on Steam so that is good news!

I bought on Steam. I know how bad I would be when it comes to manually updating the game so I prefer to let Steam handle it.

Boomcoach · 03-26-2021, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Maddox

Hey, your currently the top seller on Steam so that is good news!

I bought on Steam. I know how bad I would be when it comes to manually updating the game so I prefer to let Steam handle it.

This!

I have a DSL connection which is OK, but not great. having to do a full download for each patch, and do it manually, was a pain. Steam does it overnight and the patch seems smaller.

andyhdz · 03-26-2021, 11:43 AM

I can't stand how steam just bullies it's way into your computer resources and time. I'm old school tech guy so love the fact I can straight download OOTP and update it the way I see fit.

rudel.dietrich · 03-26-2021, 11:54 AM

After Markus let slip some hints about how well PT was doing in terms of revenue I fell less bad for purchasing from Steam since version version 15.
This is not a small company that can plead poverty any more

Also, as we saw before. The licensing company they use can go out of business.
If Steam/Valve go out of business then the entire video game industry has probably collapsed.

wallewalls · 03-26-2021, 12:51 PM

I'm buying on Steam this year for the first time since v17 I believe. Updating manually seems to have gotten more tedious the last couple of versions, with more frequent patches and hotfixes, then patches to those hotfixes that I just will Steam handle it now.

RchW · 03-26-2021, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

This. But then again, the more people buy on Steam, the better we get picked up by their algorithms and hence get discovered by more people, who in turn buy the game. So, it's probably a wash

That's an interesting tidbit. Good to see a business arrangement that can be seen as a win/win for all parties.

dave1927p · 03-26-2021, 01:36 PM

I buy through the webstore but steam workshop is always something I greatly miss due to the convenience of it. Doesn't look like it's been activated yet on steam.

BBGiovanni · 03-26-2021, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Habsfan18

The main advantage to ordering from steam is likely the fact that all version updates will automatically be downloaded and installed when logging onto your steam account, rather than having to download and install manually from the OOTP website.

OTOH, patches are always (?mostly at least) released first for the direct version. I don't really know anything about Steam, but that's why I've never bothered to look into it. Plus I always assumed the gang got more from direct purchases, and I guess I guessed right.

rudel.dietrich · 03-26-2021, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BBGiovanni

OTOH, patches are always (?mostly at least) released first for the direct version. I don't really know anything about Steam, but that's why I've never bothered to look into it. Plus I always assumed the gang got more from direct purchases, and I guess I guessed right.

To best honest, by the time I see an announcement for a game update, 95% of the time by the time I look at my Steam download list, OOTP has already updated itself.
They seem to get updates out quickly.

MisterCubs · 03-26-2021, 03:50 PM

I bought it from the webstore as usual.

mitchkenn · 03-26-2021, 04:24 PM

used to buy direct - but due to patch sizes - i found steam updates are less massive (and that's a boon to my monthly limits). And the game runs as smoothly as the standalone version. i've just gotten used to Steam so that's how i get it. Been around since 14, and Steam since 17. All is good.

The Game · 03-26-2021, 10:53 PM

i bought it from the webstore. Still setting things up.

03-26-2021, 08:50 AM	#1
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	Where Should I Buy 22 From? i normally buy from the webstore, should i continue that trend? Is there any advantage to ordering from Steam? Also i run OOTP on my x Drive, should i download the single folder version? how does PT know that I own 19-21? I want to delete 19 from my X drive. Should i do that after i download 22 and get Pt set up? i want those extra packs. Not buying til sometime this afternoon. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

03-26-2021, 08:54 AM	#3
Habsfan18 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,249	The main advantage to ordering from steam is likely the fact that all version updates will automatically be downloaded and installed when logging onto your steam account, rather than having to download and install manually from the OOTP website. __________________ Tiburcio Suggia - Greatest of all-time? http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...-all-time.html OOTP and FHM Beta Tester

03-26-2021, 09:02 AM	#4
GBN Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Germany Posts: 88	If you buy directly from the website, the developers get all the revenue (I don't know how this is distributed with publishers etc.). If you get the game on Steam, Valve gets a certain share. __________________ I'm on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcI...Y_j6q5EGNAoyfw

03-26-2021, 11:43 AM	#10
andyhdz All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Fresno, CA by way of Texas Posts: 1,754	I can't stand how steam just bullies it's way into your computer resources and time. I'm old school tech guy so love the fact I can straight download OOTP and update it the way I see fit. __________________ *************************************** It's your game. Play it how you like it. ***************************************

03-26-2021, 01:36 PM	#14
dave1927p FHM Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brantford, ON Posts: 2,909	I buy through the webstore but steam workshop is always something I greatly miss due to the convenience of it. Doesn't look like it's been activated yet on steam. __________________ IN 1964 THE LEAFS WON THE STANLEY CUP :: IT'S ALSO THE YEAR THE CANADIAN FLAG WAS DESIGNED...coincidence?

03-26-2021, 08:51 AM	#2
slugga27 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,272	For PT, it's based on your username. Deleting 19 won't affect the free packs.

03-26-2021, 11:54 AM	#11
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	After Markus let slip some hints about how well PT was doing in terms of revenue I fell less bad for purchasing from Steam since version version 15. This is not a small company that can plead poverty any more Also, as we saw before. The licensing company they use can go out of business. If Steam/Valve go out of business then the entire video game industry has probably collapsed.

03-26-2021, 12:51 PM	#12
wallewalls All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 774 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I'm buying on Steam this year for the first time since v17 I believe. Updating manually seems to have gotten more tedious the last couple of versions, with more frequent patches and hotfixes, then patches to those hotfixes that I just will Steam handle it now.

03-26-2021, 03:50 PM	#17
MisterCubs Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Ireland Posts: 63	I bought it from the webstore as usual. __________________ American Championship Baseball League ACBL Golden League - Beleria

03-26-2021, 04:24 PM	#18
mitchkenn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oregon, not by design Posts: 2,872	used to buy direct - but due to patch sizes - i found steam updates are less massive (and that's a boon to my monthly limits). And the game runs as smoothly as the standalone version. i've just gotten used to Steam so that's how i get it. Been around since 14, and Steam since 17. All is good. __________________ "This is my opening farewell " - Jackson Browne “They make a desolation and call it peace.” ― Agha Shahid Ali "Maybe she just has to sing, for the sake of the song - And who do I think that I am to decide that she's wrong." - Townes Van Zandt "I saw a young man leaning on his wooden crutch - He called out to me, 'Don't ask for so much' And a young woman leaning in her darkened door She cried out to me, 'Why not ask for more?' " - Leonard Cohen "Hello darkness, my old Friend ...." - Paul Simon Before Mays, before DiMaggio, there was Oscar Charleston. "All the lies about Babe Ruth are true." - Waite Hoyt Avatar is the late great Townes Van Zandt. rip.

03-26-2021, 10:53 PM	#19
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	i bought it from the webstore. Still setting things up. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"